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Open primary.

 

The CBS poll is the most recent included in the RealClearPolitics average for South Carolina and there are only three other recent surveys. But Steyer is in third place in all of them. If this bears out Saturday, Steyer’s presence on the ballot could either hand the contest to Sanders outright—effectively ending the race—or sap enough delegates from Biden to deny him any real momentum from a win.

 

The longer the “moderate” vote is divided among multiple candidates—and Bloomberg will join the fray in earnest on Super Tuesday—the more impossible it becomes to prevent Sanders from winning a plurality of delegates. But, as I noted yesterday, all of the candidates have an argument for remaining in the race.

 

All, that is, except for Steyer.

 
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52 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Open primary.

 

The CBS poll is the most recent included in the RealClearPolitics average for South Carolina and there are only three other recent surveys. But Steyer is in third place in all of them. If this bears out Saturday, Steyer’s presence on the ballot could either hand the contest to Sanders outright—effectively ending the race—or sap enough delegates from Biden to deny him any real momentum from a win.

 

The longer the “moderate” vote is divided among multiple candidates—and Bloomberg will join the fray in earnest on Super Tuesday—the more impossible it becomes to prevent Sanders from winning a plurality of delegates. But, as I noted yesterday, all of the candidates have an argument for remaining in the race.

 

All, that is, except for Steyer.

 

 

If Biden is smart (yeah, I know), he's making a backroom deal with Steyer to be Secretary of Whatever-he-wants if Quid Pro Joe wins the nomination/election.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Since it is an open primary I've seen a lot of chatter on which way registered Republicans should vote. Chaos or more chaos appears to be the choice.

I live in South Carolina and I won’t be voting in the primary. Although I expect Trump to win the general, playing the primary chaos game makes me too nervous when there’s not a dem candidate I could stomach voting for in the general. Write ins aren’t allowed in primaries here or I’d write in Trump. 

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13 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

If Biden is smart (yeah, I know), he's making a backroom deal with Steyer to be Secretary of Whatever-he-wants if Quid Pro Joe wins the nomination/election.

Make Steyer Energy Secretary. That’s the only issue he’s even running on. Make Bernie Health and Human Services since he’s also a one issue candidate. And make Tulsi Defense Secretary. And finally Warren can be Education Secretary, as she’s an ex-teacher.  Mayor Pete can become Party Chair and wait his turn to become an actual national candidate. Done!

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Biden accidentally tells South Carolina crowd he's a Dem candidate 'for the United States Senate'

By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News

Former Vice President Joe Biden made an unfortunate gaffe just days before the critical South Carolina primary, telling voters he's a Democratic candidate for the "United States Senate."

Biden was one of several 2020 hopefuls to attend the South Carolina Democrat Party's First in the South Dinner, where he reportedly received the longest ovation of any of his competitors.

However, wrapping up his remarks, he misspoke about which office he was seeking.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-gaffe-united-states-senate

 

 

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58 minutes ago, mead107 said:

Will sanders make it to the election? Looked like he was going to kick the bucket last night at any second. 

 

That is a nod to the deceased demographic, which is a large voting block for the Dems.

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On 2/25/2020 at 5:34 AM, SoCal Deek said:

Make Steyer Energy Secretary. That’s the only issue he’s even running on. Make Bernie Health and Human Services since he’s also a one issue candidate. And make Tulsi Defense Secretary. And finally Warren can be Education Secretary, as she’s an ex-teacher.  Mayor Pete can become Party Chair and wait his turn to become an actual national candidate. Done!

Unbelievable! I posted this as a joke a couple days ago and this morning some clown at The NY Times wrote an article saying pretty much the same thing!  How do you get a job at one of these left wing rags?

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4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Unbelievable! I posted this as a joke a couple days ago and this morning some clown at The NY Times wrote an article saying pretty much the same thing!  How do you get a job at one of these left wing rags?

 

1. Go to the Politics sub forum of a football message board.

2. Steal ideas from a poster.

3. ?

4. Pulitzer!!

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21 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

....not to worry!....they are in "Full Recruitment Mode".............

 

Image result for cemetery pictures

 

They're not a very diverse lot, but that can be forgiven so long as they all apologize and vote right down the Democrat line.

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With his campaign floundering, Joe Biden’s got to find a strategy that can turn things around for him. Apparently, at least as far as South Carolina is concerned, he’s decided to give going after Nikki Haley a try:

 

 

 

Naturally, Nikki Haley is very upset and bothered by this.

Except no she’s not. In fact, she’s got a proposal for Joe:

 

 

 
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Hold up Joe. I will put my brain up against yours anytime.
Bring it. #GodBlessJoe

 

 
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1 minute ago, Chandemonium said:

Early results look like a landslide for Biden here in S.C. He’s  at 51% with 3% of precincts reporting. Sanders currently at 18%. 

My boy Bernie was leading in polls how can Joe win 40 minutes after polls close. Rigged. 

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Three interesting developments that can happen between now and Super Tuesday to propel Biden.

-Obama officially endorses him.

-Klobachar and Buttigieg drop out.  

-Bloomberg drops out and throws his money behind Biden.

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2 hours ago, mead107 said:

My boy Bernie was leading in polls how can Joe win 40 minutes after polls close. Rigged. 

 

I don't recall seeing any polls with Bernie in the lead in SC.

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Three interesting developments that can happen between now and Super Tuesday to propel Biden.

-Obama officially endorses him.

-Klobachar and Buttigieg drop out.  

-Bloomberg drops out and throws his money behind Biden.


I don’t foresee any of those Doc. 
 

Steyer will drop out but Amy and Pete will hang on through Tuesday 

 

Bernie will win the majority on tues.

 

and Obama won’t say anything until the summer 

 

 

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Just now, B-Man said:


I don’t foresee any of those Doc. 
 

Steyer will drop out but Amy and Pete will hang on through Tuesday 

 

Bernie will win the majority on tues.

 

and Obama won’t say anything until the summer 

Pry not.  Obama's job will be to "unite" the party at the convention the best he can after what's looking to be a brutal primary. 

 

It's more difficult to run as a Democrat as you have a more diverse base of all races and religions while the Republican base is mostly white and Christian.  The lack of minority support for Pete, Amy, and Pocahontas means they have zero shot so they should put their pride aside and drop out.  Bloomberg may sink Biden with his vanity project.

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Not really surprised by this result and it doesn't mean much of anything. AA SC dems are generally old and moderate. The good thing is these type of voters WILL show up to vote in the general, regardless of the D candidate. Not that it means anything in SC, but it means something nationally.

 

People here will be very pleased when Sanders dominates Super Tuesday; in the sense that you view him as the weakest candidate with no shot. 

 

If Biden is the nominee, the election will be nothing more than "vote against Trump." That NEVER works. Never has. Never will. Kerry was vote against Bush. Romney was vote against Obama etc. Hoping to woo this non existent "middle" is a surefire way to lose an election. Who's gonna be riled up on election day to get out of bed, take time off work, and vote for JOE BIDEN? I know, I know; Sanders folks don't have jobs.

 

Like him or hate him, Sanders is the only candidate anyone is going to vote FOR. 

 

The left wing outlet coverage of Bernie is reminiscent of the coverage Trump received from right wing outlets in 16. They were petrified of his candidacy because he was guaranteed to lose. How'd that work out?

 

Not saying Sanders would beat Trump, but he's got the best shot (IMO) despite the fact that the know nothing beltway crowd is terrified.

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Sooooo...

 

South Carolina primary gets over 200,000 more votes than 2016 and very close to the same amount of votes as 2008...

 

interesting... 

 

I think Bloomberg ultimately screws the Democratic race up though and gets Sanders nominated.

 

Still, as I told @Deranged Rhino, the race for Biden didn't really start til South Carolina.

 

What's going to be interesting to me on Tuesday is watching where the splintered votes go.

 

Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. 

 

4 vs 2. That's why Sanders is unfortunately on his way to likely becoming the democratic nominee. Here's to hoping a couple other moderates drop out like Steyer did tonight.

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2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. 

That's not how it historically works though as ideology is just one of many factors people look for in a candidate.  People are willing to vote for somebody slightly more liberal or conservative than them if they like that person and think they can win in the general.

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6 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

Not really surprised by this result and it doesn't mean much of anything. AA SC dems are generally old and moderate. The good thing is these type of voters WILL show up to vote in the general, regardless of the D candidate. Not that it means anything in SC, but it means something nationally.

 

People here will be very pleased when Sanders dominates Super Tuesday; in the sense that you view him as the weakest candidate with no shot. 

 

If Biden is the nominee, the election will be nothing more than "vote against Trump." That NEVER works. Never has. Never will. Kerry was vote against Bush. Romney was vote against Obama etc. Hoping to woo this non existent "middle" is a surefire way to lose an election. Who's gonna be riled up on election day to get out of bed, take time off work, and vote for JOE BIDEN? I know, I know; Sanders folks don't have jobs.

 

Like him or hate him, Sanders is the only candidate anyone is going to vote FOR. 

 

The left wing outlet coverage of Bernie is reminiscent of the coverage Trump received from right wing outlets in 16. They were petrified of his candidacy because he was guaranteed to lose. How'd that work out?

 

Not saying Sanders would beat Trump, but he's got the best shot (IMO) despite the fact that the know nothing beltway crowd is terrified.

I'm inclined to agree and Einstein's quote about the definition of insanity applies here.  Kerry and Romney were stronger moderate candidates than Biden and still lost.  Nobody was excited to go to the polls and vote for Hillary.  I felt like I was going to jury duty when voting for Hillary in '16 but I went because the ACA saved my brother from certain bankruptcy.  I really thought the Republicans would repeal it if a Republican won the White House. 

 

I guess it comes down to I know Biden will lose to Trump while I think Sanders has a puncher's chance (even though I'm more ideologically aligned with Biden).

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meh, Biden's win last night was more of an anti-socialist vote than it was a vote for ol' Joe. of course, helping that win was Clyburn's endorsement, who in all likelihood was making it as an anti-socialist one. what is mystifying is how anyone thinks Biden is anywhere near being fit to serve the highest office in the land. what do they think is going to happen as the pace and pressure of the presidential race heats up? he is going to get better? oye.

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5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Sooooo...

 

South Carolina primary gets over 200,000 more votes than 2016 and very close to the same amount of votes as 2008...

 

interesting... 

 

I think Bloomberg ultimately screws the Democratic race up though and gets Sanders nominated.

 

Still, as I told @Deranged Rhino, the race for Biden didn't really start til South Carolina.

 

What's going to be interesting to me on Tuesday is watching where the splintered votes go.

 

Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. 

 

4 vs 2. That's why Sanders is unfortunately on his way to likely becoming the democratic nominee. Here's to hoping a couple other moderates drop out like Steyer did tonight.

Steyer is a moderate? The only one left in this race that is somewhat moderate is Bloomberg and he's not even a democrat. 

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