B-Man Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Open primary. The CBS poll is the most recent included in the RealClearPolitics average for South Carolina and there are only three other recent surveys. But Steyer is in third place in all of them. If this bears out Saturday, Steyer’s presence on the ballot could either hand the contest to Sanders outright—effectively ending the race—or sap enough delegates from Biden to deny him any real momentum from a win. The longer the “moderate” vote is divided among multiple candidates—and Bloomberg will join the fray in earnest on Super Tuesday—the more impossible it becomes to prevent Sanders from winning a plurality of delegates. But, as I noted yesterday, all of the candidates have an argument for remaining in the race. All, that is, except for Steyer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, B-Man said: Open primary. The CBS poll is the most recent included in the RealClearPolitics average for South Carolina and there are only three other recent surveys. But Steyer is in third place in all of them. If this bears out Saturday, Steyer’s presence on the ballot could either hand the contest to Sanders outright—effectively ending the race—or sap enough delegates from Biden to deny him any real momentum from a win. The longer the “moderate” vote is divided among multiple candidates—and Bloomberg will join the fray in earnest on Super Tuesday—the more impossible it becomes to prevent Sanders from winning a plurality of delegates. But, as I noted yesterday, all of the candidates have an argument for remaining in the race. All, that is, except for Steyer. If Biden is smart (yeah, I know), he's making a backroom deal with Steyer to be Secretary of Whatever-he-wants if Quid Pro Joe wins the nomination/election. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Since it is an open primary I've seen a lot of chatter on which way registered Republicans should vote. Chaos or more chaos appears to be the choice. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Since it is an open primary I've seen a lot of chatter on which way registered Republicans should vote. Chaos or more chaos appears to be the choice. I live in South Carolina and I won’t be voting in the primary. Although I expect Trump to win the general, playing the primary chaos game makes me too nervous when there’s not a dem candidate I could stomach voting for in the general. Write ins aren’t allowed in primaries here or I’d write in Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Koko78 said: If Biden is smart (yeah, I know), he's making a backroom deal with Steyer to be Secretary of Whatever-he-wants if Quid Pro Joe wins the nomination/election. Make Steyer Energy Secretary. That’s the only issue he’s even running on. Make Bernie Health and Human Services since he’s also a one issue candidate. And make Tulsi Defense Secretary. And finally Warren can be Education Secretary, as she’s an ex-teacher. Mayor Pete can become Party Chair and wait his turn to become an actual national candidate. Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Biden accidentally tells South Carolina crowd he's a Dem candidate 'for the United States Senate' By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News Former Vice President Joe Biden made an unfortunate gaffe just days before the critical South Carolina primary, telling voters he's a Democratic candidate for the "United States Senate." Biden was one of several 2020 hopefuls to attend the South Carolina Democrat Party's First in the South Dinner, where he reportedly received the longest ovation of any of his competitors. However, wrapping up his remarks, he misspoke about which office he was seeking. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-gaffe-united-states-senate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Will sanders make it to the election? Looked like he was going to kick the bucket last night at any second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 58 minutes ago, mead107 said: Will sanders make it to the election? Looked like he was going to kick the bucket last night at any second. That is a nod to the deceased demographic, which is a large voting block for the Dems. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 5:34 AM, SoCal Deek said: Make Steyer Energy Secretary. That’s the only issue he’s even running on. Make Bernie Health and Human Services since he’s also a one issue candidate. And make Tulsi Defense Secretary. And finally Warren can be Education Secretary, as she’s an ex-teacher. Mayor Pete can become Party Chair and wait his turn to become an actual national candidate. Done! Unbelievable! I posted this as a joke a couple days ago and this morning some clown at The NY Times wrote an article saying pretty much the same thing! How do you get a job at one of these left wing rags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Unbelievable! I posted this as a joke a couple days ago and this morning some clown at The NY Times wrote an article saying pretty much the same thing! How do you get a job at one of these left wing rags? 1. Go to the Politics sub forum of a football message board. 2. Steal ideas from a poster. 3. ? 4. Pulitzer!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, KRC said: That is a nod to the deceased demographic, which is a large voting block for the Dems. ....not to worry!....they are in "Full Recruitment Mode"............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....not to worry!....they are in "Full Recruitment Mode"............. They're not a very diverse lot, but that can be forgiven so long as they all apologize and vote right down the Democrat line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Koko78 said: They're not a very diverse lot, but that can be forgiven so long as they all apologize and vote right down the Democrat line. ...hell, they even signed up my dead Dem relatives........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 With his campaign floundering, Joe Biden’s got to find a strategy that can turn things around for him. Apparently, at least as far as South Carolina is concerned, he’s decided to give going after Nikki Haley a try: Naturally, Nikki Haley is very upset and bothered by this. Except no she’s not. In fact, she’s got a proposal for Joe: Quote @NikkiHaley Hold up Joe. I will put my brain up against yours anytime. Bring it. #GodBlessJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chandemonium Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Polls open at 7:00. It’ll be interesting to see if Steyer can overtake Bernie for 2nd. I doubt it with the fake support Bernie’s expected to have from republican chaos voters, but still think it’s possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Clamant cladem dimit canes bellum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, Nanker said: Clamant cladem dimit canes bellum! Carthago delenda est? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Early results look like a landslide for Biden here in S.C. He’s at 51% with 3% of precincts reporting. Sanders currently 2nd at 18%. Edited March 1, 2020 by Chandemonium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Chandemonium said: Early results look like a landslide for Biden here in S.C. He’s at 51% with 3% of precincts reporting. Sanders currently at 18%. My boy Bernie was leading in polls how can Joe win 40 minutes after polls close. Rigged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Not that I want them to -- and not that they will -- but Klobuchar and Warren should drop out. They're toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Not that I want them to -- and not that they will -- but Klobuchar and Warren should drop out. They're toast. I don’t see anyone dropping out until after Super Tuesday at this point 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chandemonium said: I don’t see anyone dropping out until after Super Tuesday at this point Understood, but if these results hold -- they'll get about 10% of the vote combined. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Three interesting developments that can happen between now and Super Tuesday to propel Biden. -Obama officially endorses him. -Klobachar and Buttigieg drop out. -Bloomberg drops out and throws his money behind Biden. Edited March 1, 2020 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, mead107 said: My boy Bernie was leading in polls how can Joe win 40 minutes after polls close. Rigged. I don't recall seeing any polls with Bernie in the lead in SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Fascinated by the lack of conversation in here in contrast to the previous 3 contests. Wonder why that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Three interesting developments that can happen between now and Super Tuesday to propel Biden. -Obama officially endorses him. -Klobachar and Buttigieg drop out. -Bloomberg drops out and throws his money behind Biden. I don’t foresee any of those Doc. Steyer will drop out but Amy and Pete will hang on through Tuesday Bernie will win the majority on tues. and Obama won’t say anything until the summer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just now, B-Man said: I don’t foresee any of those Doc. Steyer will drop out but Amy and Pete will hang on through Tuesday Bernie will win the majority on tues. and Obama won’t say anything until the summer Pry not. Obama's job will be to "unite" the party at the convention the best he can after what's looking to be a brutal primary. It's more difficult to run as a Democrat as you have a more diverse base of all races and religions while the Republican base is mostly white and Christian. The lack of minority support for Pete, Amy, and Pocahontas means they have zero shot so they should put their pride aside and drop out. Bloomberg may sink Biden with his vanity project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Not really surprised by this result and it doesn't mean much of anything. AA SC dems are generally old and moderate. The good thing is these type of voters WILL show up to vote in the general, regardless of the D candidate. Not that it means anything in SC, but it means something nationally. People here will be very pleased when Sanders dominates Super Tuesday; in the sense that you view him as the weakest candidate with no shot. If Biden is the nominee, the election will be nothing more than "vote against Trump." That NEVER works. Never has. Never will. Kerry was vote against Bush. Romney was vote against Obama etc. Hoping to woo this non existent "middle" is a surefire way to lose an election. Who's gonna be riled up on election day to get out of bed, take time off work, and vote for JOE BIDEN? I know, I know; Sanders folks don't have jobs. Like him or hate him, Sanders is the only candidate anyone is going to vote FOR. The left wing outlet coverage of Bernie is reminiscent of the coverage Trump received from right wing outlets in 16. They were petrified of his candidacy because he was guaranteed to lose. How'd that work out? Not saying Sanders would beat Trump, but he's got the best shot (IMO) despite the fact that the know nothing beltway crowd is terrified. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Sooooo... South Carolina primary gets over 200,000 more votes than 2016 and very close to the same amount of votes as 2008... interesting... I think Bloomberg ultimately screws the Democratic race up though and gets Sanders nominated. Still, as I told @Deranged Rhino, the race for Biden didn't really start til South Carolina. What's going to be interesting to me on Tuesday is watching where the splintered votes go. Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. 4 vs 2. That's why Sanders is unfortunately on his way to likely becoming the democratic nominee. Here's to hoping a couple other moderates drop out like Steyer did tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. That's not how it historically works though as ideology is just one of many factors people look for in a candidate. People are willing to vote for somebody slightly more liberal or conservative than them if they like that person and think they can win in the general. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Not really surprised by this result and it doesn't mean much of anything. AA SC dems are generally old and moderate. The good thing is these type of voters WILL show up to vote in the general, regardless of the D candidate. Not that it means anything in SC, but it means something nationally. People here will be very pleased when Sanders dominates Super Tuesday; in the sense that you view him as the weakest candidate with no shot. If Biden is the nominee, the election will be nothing more than "vote against Trump." That NEVER works. Never has. Never will. Kerry was vote against Bush. Romney was vote against Obama etc. Hoping to woo this non existent "middle" is a surefire way to lose an election. Who's gonna be riled up on election day to get out of bed, take time off work, and vote for JOE BIDEN? I know, I know; Sanders folks don't have jobs. Like him or hate him, Sanders is the only candidate anyone is going to vote FOR. The left wing outlet coverage of Bernie is reminiscent of the coverage Trump received from right wing outlets in 16. They were petrified of his candidacy because he was guaranteed to lose. How'd that work out? Not saying Sanders would beat Trump, but he's got the best shot (IMO) despite the fact that the know nothing beltway crowd is terrified. I'm inclined to agree and Einstein's quote about the definition of insanity applies here. Kerry and Romney were stronger moderate candidates than Biden and still lost. Nobody was excited to go to the polls and vote for Hillary. I felt like I was going to jury duty when voting for Hillary in '16 but I went because the ACA saved my brother from certain bankruptcy. I really thought the Republicans would repeal it if a Republican won the White House. I guess it comes down to I know Biden will lose to Trump while I think Sanders has a puncher's chance (even though I'm more ideologically aligned with Biden). Edited March 1, 2020 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Fascinated by the lack of conversation in here in contrast to the previous 3 contests. Wonder why that is? Occum's Shaver called and said: Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Fascinated by the lack of conversation in here in contrast to the previous 3 contests. Wonder why that is? You want to know why? In a word...Biden. He’s the very definition of boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) meh, Biden's win last night was more of an anti-socialist vote than it was a vote for ol' Joe. of course, helping that win was Clyburn's endorsement, who in all likelihood was making it as an anti-socialist one. what is mystifying is how anyone thinks Biden is anywhere near being fit to serve the highest office in the land. what do they think is going to happen as the pace and pressure of the presidential race heats up? he is going to get better? oye. Edited March 1, 2020 by Foxx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Sooooo... South Carolina primary gets over 200,000 more votes than 2016 and very close to the same amount of votes as 2008... interesting... I think Bloomberg ultimately screws the Democratic race up though and gets Sanders nominated. Still, as I told @Deranged Rhino, the race for Biden didn't really start til South Carolina. What's going to be interesting to me on Tuesday is watching where the splintered votes go. Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. 4 vs 2. That's why Sanders is unfortunately on his way to likely becoming the democratic nominee. Here's to hoping a couple other moderates drop out like Steyer did tonight. Steyer is a moderate? The only one left in this race that is somewhat moderate is Bloomberg and he's not even a democrat. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 South Carolina Democrats vote to slow down the socialism train Washington Examiner, by Editorial Original Article . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Steyer is a moderate? The only one left in this race that is somewhat moderate is Bloomberg and he's not even a democrat. Steyer dropped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Foxx said: Steyer dropped out. I know. Doesn't change his political views though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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