BringBackOrton Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) The DT market gets stronger this offseason. Edited February 21, 2020 by BringBackOrton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Man I wish we had him instead of Star.....? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 He’s likely to retire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Man I wish we had him instead of Star.....? We may be able to afford him and then walk away from Star next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Lions taking a $5M dead cap hit, not a good sign. Snacks will be 31 this season, so still some gas left in the tank, age-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 That’s crazy. I thought he was still a fairly productive player 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Lions taking a $5M dead cap hit, not a good sign. Snacks will be 31 this season, so still some gas left in the tank, age-wise. I didn't know he was 30 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 TBD loves 30+ players 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: TBD loves 30+ players It’s almost like 26 year All-Pros don’t regularly hit free agency. Weird. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 i think he was the best against the run as a d tackle last year as in years past. we'd be lucky to have him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Steep decline in play last year as injuries really hampered him. Sounded like he was going to retire. One of the most underrated players of the last decade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Much better run stopper and overall player than Star.... too bad we basically guaranteed Stars roster status a week ago with the restructured contract. Interestingly, your post prompted me to look at Spotrac again to see Star's dead cap hit. Prior to the restructure, 2021 was a potential out with a dead cap hit of around $2.1M, IIRC. With the restructure, his dead cap hit is $7.7M in 2021, so Star is most likely here until 2022 (dead cap $2.6M), where he becomes a UFA in 2023; Beane committed to Star for another year, at least. McD and Beane seem to really like Star. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 If that’s the end for Snacks he can retire knowing he put together a hell of a career for an UDFA. The Jets 100% should have re-signed him instead of Mo Wilkerson in 2016. Personality-wise I think Snacks got a “Locker Room Lawyer” rep at the end of his career which probably hurts him in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Interestingly, your post prompted me to look at Spotrac again to see Star's dead cap hit. Prior to the restructure, 2021 was a potential out with a dead cap hit of around $2.1M, IIRC. With the restructure, his dead cap hit is $7.7M in 2021, so Star is most likely here until 2022 (dead cap $2.6M), where he becomes a UFA in 2023; Beane committed to Star for another year, at least. McD and Beane seem to really like Star. They probably like him because he does was he is supposed to do. Funny how that works. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: They probably like him because he does was he is supposed to do. Funny how that works. If you think Star is an above average 1-tech, I don't know what to tell you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: If you think Star is an above average 1-tech, I don't know what to tell you. Doing what you're supposed to do means you're an average player. Nobody said he's above average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: It’s almost like 26 year All-Pros don’t regularly hit free agency. Weird. Yet they will find the fountain of youth and become game changers for the Bills.... amazing how that works. Thank you for helping prove the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Yet they will find the fountain of youth and become game changers for the Bills.... amazing how that works. Thank you for helping prove the point. Don’t sign anyone who isn’t a 26 year old All Pro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 SNACKS??? Did someone ay Snacks? Somewhere, Karlos just came to attention! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: If you think Star is an above average 1-tech, I don't know what to tell you. You could tell him that he's absolutely correct, or that more specifically he's an above-average space-eater. You could tell him there's a reason that the brain trust paid him that money and doubled down on keeping him longer, and that the reason is that he consistently does what the coaches want and need him to do. You could also tell him that there seem to be a group of fans who don't like him but that they don't seem to get that what they feel is beside the point, that it's the coaches and the front office and what they feel that matters, not some group of fans with a weird grudge. Snacks is also an above-average 1-tech. At his peak he was among the very best space-eaters in the game. He no longer seems to be at his peak, unfortunately. I've always loved how he plays. Edited February 21, 2020 by Thurman#1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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