Kemp Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 “If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment,” said the lawyer, Alan M. Dershowitz. The statement is a template for the establishment of a dictatorship. This means that a President can unilaterally do anything if he believes it is for the public good. Every single dictator in history has operated in that manner. Try and find an exception. America is a flawed country, like all are, but a dictatorship won't be an improvement. The Senate Republicans admit that Trump did what he is accused of, yet voted to not hear from witnesses. As even the biggest idiot in these threads knows, innocent people want witnesses. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand this simplest of concepts. So, if Trump loses in November and declares that for some reason the vote was illegitimate, and refuses to leave, what will happen? I'm not sure. One thing for sure, is that the resident loon on these boards will tell us that Trump is right to remain, and post tweets from other loons and Qanon as proof. The frothing loon will no doubt tell us of some unfounded theory he has gleaned from another frothing loon on Twitter. The crazed villagers, with their flaming torches proudly held high, will lap it up and make their usual pithy comments. I used to not understand how people could ever warmly embrace an incoming dictatorship. It's not that hard to understand, anymore. Fear of other + charlatans lying to them + blaming your own failures on another group of people are some of the primary ingredients. All of this for the man who is the ultimate poster boy for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These are sad times. Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder Grandiose sense of self-importance Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things. Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player. Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality. Needs constant praise and admiration A narcissist’s sense of superiority is like a balloon that gradually loses air without a steady stream of applause and recognition to keep it inflated. The occasional compliment is not enough. Narcissists need constant food for their ego, so they surround themselves with people who are willing to cater to their obsessive craving for affirmation. These relationships are very one-sided. It’s all about what the admirer can do for the narcissist, never the other way around. And if there is ever an interruption or diminishment in the admirer’s attention and praise, the narcissist treats it as a betrayal. Sense of entitlement Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder. Exploits others without guilt or shame Narcissists never develop the ability to identify with the feelings of others—to put themselves in other people’s shoes. In other words, they lack empathy. In many ways, they view the people in their lives as objects—there to serve their needs. As a consequence, they don’t think twice about taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends. Sometimes this interpersonal exploitation is malicious, but often it is simply oblivious. Narcissists simply don’t think about how their behavior affects others. And if you point it out, they still won’t truly get it. The only thing they understand is their own needs. Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 While that standard is ridiculous your rant is over the top. Trump is not a dictator and the reason I voted for him is he has at no point told me to turn over my rights to the govt. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: While that standard is ridiculous your rant is over the top. Trump is not a dictator and the reason I voted for him is he has at no point told me to turn over my rights to the govt. It’s just liberal histrionics. They’ve been unsuccessful in their ongoing attempts to oust Trump. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Oh ***** off with this nonsense. Your partisan witch hunt failed. Get over it. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kemp said: “If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment,” said the lawyer, Alan M. Dershowitz. The statement is a template for the establishment of a dictatorship. This means that a President can unilaterally do anything if he believes it is for the public good. Every single dictator in history has operated in that manner. Try and find an exception. America is a flawed country, like all are, but a dictatorship won't be an improvement. The Senate Republicans admit that Trump did what he is accused of, yet voted to not hear from witnesses. As even the biggest idiot in these threads knows, innocent people want witnesses. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand this simplest of concepts. So, if Trump loses in November and declares that for some reason the vote was illegitimate, and refuses to leave, what will happen? I'm not sure. One thing for sure, is that the resident loon on these boards will tell us that Trump is right to remain, and post tweets from other loons and Qanon as proof. The frothing loon will no doubt tell us of some unfounded theory he has gleaned from another frothing loon on Twitter. The crazed villagers, with their flaming torches proudly held high, will lap it up and make their usual pithy comments. I used to not understand how people could ever warmly embrace an incoming dictatorship. It's not that hard to understand, anymore. Fear of other + charlatans lying to them + blaming your own failures on another group of people are some of the primary ingredients. All of this for the man who is the ultimate poster boy for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These are sad times. Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder Grandiose sense of self-importance Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things. Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player. Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality. Needs constant praise and admiration A narcissist’s sense of superiority is like a balloon that gradually loses air without a steady stream of applause and recognition to keep it inflated. The occasional compliment is not enough. Narcissists need constant food for their ego, so they surround themselves with people who are willing to cater to their obsessive craving for affirmation. These relationships are very one-sided. It’s all about what the admirer can do for the narcissist, never the other way around. And if there is ever an interruption or diminishment in the admirer’s attention and praise, the narcissist treats it as a betrayal. Sense of entitlement Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder. Exploits others without guilt or shame Narcissists never develop the ability to identify with the feelings of others—to put themselves in other people’s shoes. In other words, they lack empathy. In many ways, they view the people in their lives as objects—there to serve their needs. As a consequence, they don’t think twice about taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends. Sometimes this interpersonal exploitation is malicious, but often it is simply oblivious. Narcissists simply don’t think about how their behavior affects others. And if you point it out, they still won’t truly get it. The only thing they understand is their own needs. Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line. You are describing Hilary Clinton and no doubt many others on both sides of the aisle as well. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 How dare he do what he thinks is right for the country. And there are so many checks and balances in our government a dictatorship could never happen. What a load of crapola this is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: While that standard is ridiculous your rant is over the top. Trump is not a dictator and the reason I voted for him is he has at no point told me to turn over my rights to the govt. ...yup......another fear monger spouting off...... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 YOUUS 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, Kemp said: “If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment,” said the lawyer, Alan M. Dershowitz. The statement is a template for the establishment of a dictatorship. This means that a President can unilaterally do anything if he believes it is for the public good. Every single dictator in history has operated in that manner. Try and find an exception. America is a flawed country, like all are, but a dictatorship won't be an improvement. The Senate Republicans admit that Trump did what he is accused of, yet voted to not hear from witnesses. As even the biggest idiot in these threads knows, innocent people want witnesses. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand this simplest of concepts. So, if Trump loses in November and declares that for some reason the vote was illegitimate, and refuses to leave, what will happen? I'm not sure. One thing for sure, is that the resident loon on these boards will tell us that Trump is right to remain, and post tweets from other loons and Qanon as proof. The frothing loon will no doubt tell us of some unfounded theory he has gleaned from another frothing loon on Twitter. The crazed villagers, with their flaming torches proudly held high, will lap it up and make their usual pithy comments. I used to not understand how people could ever warmly embrace an incoming dictatorship. It's not that hard to understand, anymore. Fear of other + charlatans lying to them + blaming your own failures on another group of people are some of the primary ingredients. All of this for the man who is the ultimate poster boy for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These are sad times. Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder Grandiose sense of self-importance Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things. Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player. Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality. Needs constant praise and admiration A narcissist’s sense of superiority is like a balloon that gradually loses air without a steady stream of applause and recognition to keep it inflated. The occasional compliment is not enough. Narcissists need constant food for their ego, so they surround themselves with people who are willing to cater to their obsessive craving for affirmation. These relationships are very one-sided. It’s all about what the admirer can do for the narcissist, never the other way around. And if there is ever an interruption or diminishment in the admirer’s attention and praise, the narcissist treats it as a betrayal. Sense of entitlement Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder. Exploits others without guilt or shame Narcissists never develop the ability to identify with the feelings of others—to put themselves in other people’s shoes. In other words, they lack empathy. In many ways, they view the people in their lives as objects—there to serve their needs. As a consequence, they don’t think twice about taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends. Sometimes this interpersonal exploitation is malicious, but often it is simply oblivious. Narcissists simply don’t think about how their behavior affects others. And if you point it out, they still won’t truly get it. The only thing they understand is their own needs. Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line. ....um....er....well....oh...uh....hmmmm........suggest you call Dr Ruth STAT....SMH........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 So where did you copy and paste that manifesto from? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Just now, /dev/null said: So where did you copy and paste that manifesto from? ...LMAO...The Koran......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Spring is right around the corner. i can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Funny how Kemp doesn't want to talk about the actual authoritarian overreach committed by the government... Page 82: NSA examined all queries using identifiers for "U.S. persons targeted pursuant to Sections 704 and 705(b) of FISA using the [REDACTED / X-Keyscore] tool in [REDACTED] ... from November 1, 2015 to May 1, 2016." Id. at 2-3 (footnote omitted). Based on that examination, "NSA estimates that approximately eighty-five percent of those queries, representing [REDACTED] queires conducted by approximately [REDACTED] targeted offices, were not compliant with the applicable minimization procedures." Id. at 3. Many of these non-compliant queries involved use of the same identifiers over different date ranges. Id. Even so, a non-compliance rate of 85% raises substantial questions about the propriety of using of [REDACTED / X-KEYSCORE] to query FISA data. While the government reports that it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of the number of non-compliant queries since 2012, id., there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015-April 2016 period coincided with an unusually high error rate. (Emphasis my own) https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Horowitz reportedly finds FBI lawyer falsified FISA doc https://www.foxnews.com/politics/horowitz-finds-evidence-fbi-employee-altered-russia-probe-document FISA court slams FBI conduct in Carter Page surveillance warrant applications https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-conduct/index.html DOJ Determines 2 FISA Spy Warrants on Trump Campaign Adviser Were “Not Valid” https://themarketswork.com/2020/01/23/doj-determines-2-fisa-spy-warrants-on-trump-campaign-adviser-were-not-valid/ Comparing the allegations about Trump and the Ukraine to the proven crimes committed above is not something Kemp wishes to do. Because he knows one is far more dangerous of a slide towards a dictatorship than the other. And, because Kemp is a fool, he's upset about the wrong one. NPCs say the darndest things. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Is this an old Obama thread? Narcissism? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 The OP, unfortunately named Kemp doesn't have the balls to name the subject of his rant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Found Kemp. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Kemp said: . 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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