The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[mannc]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

There is a certain segment of the population that likes to tell other people what to do and shame them into doing it. And, there is a certain segment of the population that enjoys being told what to do and obeying without thought.

Both sets of those people are tickled pink right now.
 

Plus, it’s opened up a whole new field of virtue-signaling opportunities.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

45 minutes ago, mannc said:

They can’t.  They are limited to collecting workers comp.  And only if they can prove they got the virus from work, which would be tough to do.

 

...not entirely correct......say the worker contracted virus on the job and was able to prove it was from work.....the employee then can file a lawsuit against the employer's General Liability carrier....a possible premise would be negligence regarding a safe workplace....Wegmans JUST installed plexiglass shields for cashiers and just now started to allow masks/gloves......we had an electrician step off the BOTTOM rung of a ladder, losing his balance and falling against a table (instant NYS Comp Case under Section 240/241)......severe back injury resulted in multiple surgeries, etc totaling >$350,000 in medical bills.....he then sued us through our General Liability carrier and won an $800,000 judgment.....if memory serves me, our WC carrier liened the judgment for what they paid out.....

[Nanker]

2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...not entirely correct......say the worker contracted virus on the job and was able to prove it was from work.....the employee then can file a lawsuit against the employer's General Liability carrier....a possible premise would be negligence regarding a safe workplace....Wegmans JUST installed plexiglass shields for cashiers and just now started to allow masks/gloves......we had an electrician step off the BOTTOM rung of a ladder, losing his balance and falling against a table (instant NYS Comp Case under Section 240/241)......severe back injury resulted in multiple surgeries, etc totaling >$350,000 in medical bills.....he then sued us through our General Liability carrier and won an $800,000 judgment.....if memory serves me, our WC carrier liened the judgment for what they paid out.....

Yep. This is why they always ask if your condition was the result of an accident or worker's comp. The medical providers love those cases because they charge the bust-out-retail amount because they likely will get it. That is pure gravy for them and allows them to take the medical insurance companies', and medicare's "negotiated" rates. It's a lot like how hospitals charge outrageous amounts for their services and prescriptions, and supplies like bandages and aspirin. They get that money to cover the Emergency Room visits from the indigent and ultra poor that can't pay for their services. Hey, Es La LEY!

[mannc]

5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

..Wegmans JUST installed plexiglass shields for cashiers and just now started to allow masks/gloves

They are doing that because they don’t want their employees to get sick, not to avoid being sued.

[B-Man]

Stop the panic. Don't let the coronavirus win.

USA Today, by Alex Berezow

 

Original Article

 

In response to the coronavirus pandemic, democratic governments across the world have implemented unprecedented peacetime lockdowns. One California city is even using night vision equipped drones — made in China, ironically — to enforce it. A city in Washington encourages citizens to snitch on those who violate the “stay home” order. Let’s pause a moment to consider the serious ramifications of what we are doing. To combat a virus, some state and local governments have ordered everyone, including perfectly healthy people, to stay home for an undefined period of time. 

 

 

 

 

Another "unwanted" side-effect  

 

Coronavirus causing Americans to pray more, new study says

 

 

 

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[IDBillzFan]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

This whole Trump not wearing a mask deal is a perfect example of his detractors attempting to play partisan gotcha games.  

 

One more time: If you are watching what is going on in the world right now and your sole contribution is to point and blame, then please do everyone else a favor and sit down, STFU and let the adults deal with the issues at hand.

 

 

We're watching this country come together to help each other out in ways we haven't seen since WWII. Imagine watching this in real time and having your contribution be "Trump won't wear a mask!"

 

Embarrassing and sad.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, mannc said:

They are doing that because they don’t want their employees to get sick, not to avoid being sued.

It can be both. 

 

[mannc]

Just now, IDBillzFan said:

 

One more time: If you are watching what is going on in the world right now and your sole contribution is to point and blame, then please do everyone else a favor and sit down, STFU and let the adults deal with the issues at hand.

 

 

We're watching this country come together to help each other out in ways we haven't seen since WWII. Imagine watching this in real time and having your contribution be "Trump won't wear a mask!"

 

Embarrassing and sad.

 

The second he put on a mask, these same people would mock him mercilessly.

[3rdnlng]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

So?  It was FICTION. It was a Hollywood screenplay.  And nothing in the article suggests that he knows the first thing about public health.

But, but he's a screen writer! We all know that screen writers are trusted here.

[MILFHUNTER#518]

Sugar Nipples not messing around...

[GG]

28 minutes ago, mannc said:

The hysteria needs to stop.  There are few cases in my area and the number of new cases is stable, as are the numbers of new deaths and hospitalizations.  We have been sheltering in place for almost three weeks now, so that’s not going to change.  It’s not not time to adopt new fear-mongering requirements.

 

What hysteria?  

 

If there are a few acknowledged cases, that means that there's a lot more in the area that aren't acknowledged.  Preventing the spread is the best case scenario at this point, and wearing masks is a proven method.  

[Buffalo_Gal]

7 hours ago, 32ABBA said:

Anybody hear about this drug....

 

 

https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/coronavirus-outbreak-can-anti-parasite-drug-ivermectin-kill-covid-19-know-more

 

 

https://en.as.com/en/2020/04/04/other_sports/1585963017_478782.html

 

 

 

Coronavirus: Anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin kills COVID-19 in lab within 48 hours
 

An anti-parasitic drug available throughout the world has been found to kill COVID-19 in the lab within 48 hours.
 

A Monash University-led study has shown a single dose of the drug Ivermectin could stop the SARS-CoV-2 virus growing in cell culture.
 

“We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA (effectively removed all genetic material of the virus) by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it,” Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute’s Dr Kylie Wagstaff said on Friday.

While it’s not known how Ivermectin works on the virus, the drug likely stops the virus dampening the host cells’ ability to clear it.
 

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[IDBillzFan]

3 minutes ago, mannc said:

They are doing that because they don’t want their employees to get sick, not to avoid being sued.

 

Not to mention, they want people to show up to work. Do you think an 18-year Wegmans employee wants to be coughed on at this point? The ACE Hardware by me installed these as well. And even if it IS about liability, at least people are doing something about the issue.

 

Unlike some people who just feel the need to whine and complain all the time.

 

1 minute ago, mannc said:

The second he put on a mask, these same people would mock him mercilessly.

 

They're mocking him regardless. Because that's what a weak mind does in a crisis. It doesn't help. It doesn't contribute. It mocks and ridicules to get other weak minds to pat their backs. Look at Jim Acosta. He's getting to the point where his own mother is embarrassed every time he opens his piehole. 

 

 

[Uncle Joe]

7 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Not to mention, they want people to show up to work. Do you think an 18-year Wegmans employee wants to be coughed on at this point? The ACE Hardware by me installed these as well. And even if it IS about liability, at least people are doing something about the issue.

 

Unlike some people who just feel the need to whine and complain all the time.

I went to the post office yesterday and thought I was at a bank. Plexiglas covering all three stations with a pass through space for items at the bottom. 2 people in the customer lobby at a time and a 3 foot red marker distance from the teller.
Meanwhile at Safeway the plexiglas doesn't provide adequate cover for the cashier. The cashiers are taking it in stride.

Edited April 4, 2020 by Uncle Joe

[Kevbeau]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

Coronavirus: Anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin kills COVID-19 in lab within 48 hours
 

An anti-parasitic drug available throughout the world has been found to kill COVID-19 in the lab within 48 hours.
 

A Monash University-led study has shown a single dose of the drug Ivermectin could stop the SARS-CoV-2 virus growing in cell culture.
 

“We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA (effectively removed all genetic material of the virus) by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it,” Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute’s Dr Kylie Wagstaff said on Friday.

While it’s not known how Ivermectin works on the virus, the drug likely stops the virus dampening the host cells’ ability to clear it.
 

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Great...now people will be stealing Heart Guard from their dogs.

 

I have to give our alpacas ivermectin shots every month to stave off all the garbage white tail carry. Horses also get it in paste form every couple months.

 

Because of the livestock industry’s overuse of anti-parasite/antibiotics this is the only **** left that actually works. Once the bots and worms develop immunity to ivermectin, we’re fubared.

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by Kevbeau

[shoshin]

46 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I get vaccinations to protect me from other people.

Your vaccinations help a lot of people who can’t get vaccinated. Thanks for helping them (I know several). 

[billsfan1959]

4 minutes ago, Kevbeau said:

Great...now people will be stealing Heart Guard from their dogs.

 

I think if they wash it down with fish tank cleaner, they will probably be fine

[shoshin]

18 minutes ago, GG said:

 

What hysteria?  

 

If there are a few acknowledged cases, that means that there's a lot more in the area that aren't acknowledged.  Preventing the spread is the best case scenario at this point, and wearing masks is a proven method.  

He and gal think there’s some plot afoot to virtue signal and control the populace. I’d like him to put on his mask so we can switch the economy signal to green everywhere and soon. And save lives, like the Wegman’s cashier or his kid or grandmother. 
 

But mostly keep the spread down so we can get the ***** back to work. 

Edited April 4, 2020 by shoshin

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

28 minutes ago, mannc said:

They are doing that because they don’t want their employees to get sick, not to avoid being sued.

 

...of course......plexiglass installation was a pro-active company move as were cashier sanitizing stations........gloves and masks I believe were previously prohibited until the local news media here in Rochester publicized the conundrum...hence it was changed...........

Edited April 4, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[TPS]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

A few days ago, according to the Oregon Health Authority, there were 770 ventilators available in the state and less than 40 CV19 patients who were using one.  They’ve now stopped publishing that data.  Maybe they fear appropriation by other parts of the country...