billsfan1959 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Justice said: All that above was a waste of your time. This isn’t the same thing. What about the poor bastard that watches his health only to die because some dude passed his virus to him? None of us have the answers here. Please don’t pretend to know, because that’s all you’re doing is playing pretend. defenseless? That’s what our nukes are for. Attack us get dropped! There are literally hundreds of thousands of people that die every year because of something that isn't their fault. You act like that is a novel concept. And, yes, I do know that shutting down the military is a stupid idea. We can agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Because some enemies aren't state based actors (meaning, no country to bomb). They’re not much of a worry to me. 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly: You want to lock down the entire nation indefinitely. And you don't think this is a bad thing because "saves lives." It’s the lesser of two evils. No option is good here. Why did we lock it all down in the first place? I see you’re all ignoring this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: You can all come hunt with hubby! There's enough deer on his hunting land to feed a whole lotta people (in season). He will be thrilled I invited you all! ? I need his number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Justice said: They’re not much of a worry to me. It’s the lesser of two evils. No option is good here. Why did we lock it all down in the first place? I see you’re all ignoring this question. Cool. Enjoy the breadlines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I need you guys to do me a favor. Hand out a penny to someone and then keep doubling it to every person out there then tell me how soon you’d go broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: If NYS waits until summer to reopen, there will be no NYS to reopen. another reason to separate western New York from Downstate. They are literally totally different and to apply mitigation standard for nyc to Rochester and buffalo is absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Awesome. I’m so happy to have a real estate tycoon as President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Justice said: Awesome. I’m so happy to have a real estate tycoon as President. Did you read it? It sounds rational and sane to me -- and works with the governors, per our system. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Justice said: I need you guys to do me a favor. Hand out a penny to someone and then keep doubling it to every person out there then tell me how soon you’d go broke. Ok zig ziglar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Did you read it? It sounds rational and sane to me -- and works with the governors, per our system. I stopped reading it during phase one. I seen enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Trump up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Elective surgeries resuming cannot come soon enough. A lot of hospitals are getting ready to lay off staff (if they have not already started). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: ... Does that apply to our enemies too? Of which there are many, plenty of whom are watching how we respond to see if we're vulnerable to an attack? You can't do that without living in a utopia. We don't live in a utopia. We live in a world with enemies who want to see us burn. Those people just don't go away in times of crisis and say, "gee, you got your hands full, we'll just go over here for a bit". Those people take advantage of weakness. He clearly doesn't have a clue what the "military" does, how it operates, or how many people it employs... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Phase two, bars reopening with diminished standing room? Ummm you can tell Trump is a teetotaler. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Currently speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Trump now chatting about the new guidelines. Strategy is based on data. Thanking Dr Brix in crafting these guidelines. Going into the three phases, "one careful stage at a time." Focus is on sheltering highest risk individuals. (He mentioned seniors) Governors will be allowed to tailor their approach based on their state's needs. If they need to stay closed, they can. Harmonize regional efforts. Some states will be working very closely together. The goal is to rapidly put out any hot spots. If the guidelines return in the fall, these guidelines will help put out hot spots quickly. Edited April 16, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 At least 35 clinical trials are underway. Continue to expand testing capacity. Have now completed 3.5M tests. Hot spots have done more per capita. Distributed 600K point of care 5 minute tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Trump now chatting about the new guidelines. Strategy is based on data. Thanking Dr Brix in crafting these guidelines. Going into the three phases, "one careful stage at a time." Focus is on sheltering highest risk individuals. (He mentioned seniors) Governors will be allowed to tailor their approach based on their state's needs. If they need to stay closed, they can. Harmonize regional efforts. Some states will be working very closely together. The goal is to rapidly put out any hout spots. If the guidelines return in the fall, these guidelines will help put out hot spots quickly. Just happy President Trump prepared for this. If it was a democrat or some not good other person. My biggest worry but President Trump prepared for everything. I'm happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) As new and better testing solutions come online, we are seeing commercial lab testings drop (since we can do the tests easier and faster without the labs, including on the spot tests). Calling this a science based reopening. Border control is more important than ever. Pence: joined today with a bipartisan group for input. The new guidelines are a produce of science and common sense, and a broad range of advisors across the nation. Edited April 16, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Pence: on those phases, there is also recommendations for state preparedness. The feds will work with the states. Pence is going through the rapid ramp-up in testing listing how many were done xx date vs xx date vs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Destroyed businesses, jobs, and lives, also horrible. POTUS: We can’t save lives without saving our economy. CLOSING PARKS WAS ALWAYS A STUPID IDEA: Outdoor Transmission of COVID: “We identified only a single outbreak in an outdoor environment, which involved two cases. The first salient feature of the 318 identified outbreaks that involved three or more cases is that they all occurred in indoor environments. Although this finding was expected, its significance has not been well recognized by the community and by policy makers. Indoors is where our lives and work are in modern civilization. The transmission of respiratory infections such as SARS-CoV-2 from the infected to the susceptible is an indoor phenomenon. . . . This study, if true, could raise important questions about the wisdom of closing public parks in urban areas, particularly those urban areas in which large groups of people live in substandard buildings.” . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Pence: focus on mitigation and watching that no new hot spots start (these can be statewide or countywide). Dr Birx: going through the phases quickly. Downward trajectory for 14 days. Hospitals need to be able to treat patients without resorting to crisis care. She is going through charts that OAN is not showing. ? Edited April 17, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: That is the precise calculus DNC leadership has been running since January when they dragged their feet sending the impeachment articles to the Senate, timing it perfectly (purely by coincidence, I'm sure ) when the first infected person from Wuhan made it to Seattle... Don't go along with your alien conspiracy theories, but you've been dead nuts on with the FISA/ RussiaGate, UkraineGate/ etc. If there is anything legit to THIS theory, Joe from Winslow is going to have a lot of people coming to his views. REALLY hoping you're being too cynical on this one and this is more aliens than the Insider Baseball you've been sharing. (Expect that you are, no offense intended.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Dr Birx: They are doing sentinel sightings for asymptomatic cases (nursing homes, clinics, and (somewhere else - native American populations). They are really gonna watch the nursing homes. the first cases always were in nursing homes. Also listing face coverings, washing hands, stay home if sick, wash your hands, etc. Edited April 17, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 “Surveillance”. Awesome. “If you’re sick, stay home”. Yeah. What can go wrong here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Dr. Birx: workplace recommendations, including no unnecessary travel She is going through the phases that @Deranged Rhino shared above. Edited April 17, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal I gotta stop misspelling her name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 The guidelines are good. happy to see they are recommending contact tracing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 White House guidelines for reopening economy PDF here: https://www.scribd.com/document/456756096/White-House-guidelines-for-reopening-economy#from_embed . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: He clearly doesn't have a clue what the "military" does, how it operates, or how many people it employs... He's going all Neville Chamberlin. Don't worry. it didn't happen this millennium so it doesn't count. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Yeah I know right? It’s amazing there are countries still standing out there that don’t have a bunch of off-shore bases. Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Press asked Fauci about large crowds at sporting events in phase 3, Fauci said yes (watching for setbacks). A number of Governors will be opening soon (press question, Trump answered). Trump talking about sports, they will start without fans (made for television). Someone asked Trump (again) about states opening tomorrow. He said "yes" they can if they met the 14 days. Edited April 16, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Time to go buy some real estate in Wyoming. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 OHIO GOVERNOR ANNOUNCES ECONOMIC REOPENING STARTING MAY 1. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Justice said: “Surveillance”. Awesome. “If you’re sick, stay home”. Yeah. What can go wrong here? You were ranting before his presser, besides him disbanding the military and shutting everything down until Labor Day what would have helped you shut up? So surprised you don’t like any of this. It’s an impossible situation, have some balance and see both sides of the nightmare. They can’t calculate the loss of life from this thing as we have all been a witness to. It’s a total unknown and yes that’s scary to face our own mortality. Know what they can accurately calculate? Financial ruin and disaster, which we are heading towards for the sake of minimizing the unknown. Overall people have done the right thing and kept this from being the worst case scenario. Any sane individual doesnt want more folks dieing than necessary. It’s sad that no matter what we do people will continue to die from it. I just don’t think we can sit idle for months on end hiding from life itself. Edited April 16, 2020 by CommonCents 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Trump is hoping that something will be happening onthat $250B SBA funding. Democrats like it, Republicans love it, we are negotiating with the Democrats. Asked by the press which states will be opening, Trump said that he will allow the governors to announce it themselves. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Justice said: I ask again. Why even lock it all down in the first place then? And what models? The ones that we have based on SD? Nukes. Why have them then? Locking down was a "retreat" method meant to gather information and data on the extent of the virus, which we were sorely lacking, while also trying to keep the hospitals from becoming overwhelmed (which was fairly successful). Nobody, from Cuomo to trump and everyone ideologically in between in a position of leadership, meant for a shutdown until vaccine. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Trump: normal is going to be normal. (He's optimistic we return to the way things were before this virus, quickly.) 11 companies are making ventilators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, arcane said: Locking down was a "retreat" method meant to gather information and data on the extent of the virus, which we were sorely lacking, while also trying to keep the hospitals from becoming overwhelmed (which was fairly successful). Nobody, from Cuomo to trump and everyone ideologically in between in a position of leadership, meant for a shutdown until vaccine. And that’s my concern. Once we open it all up again they will be overwhelmed. Oh well. It is what it is. No easy answers here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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