Jauronimo Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: IMO this year teams are hiring before they do their do diligence. Every one of them (except Cleveland) made a decision in a weeks time.. not allowing any current coordinators to interview (white, black, Martian) and ALL before they talked to McDaniels who is suppose to be this hot commodity this year again. (He has earned a new HC job even if I believe his entire success is because Brady made him look good.) McDaniels would already be a HC if he hadn't left Indy at the altar in favor of some shady redux of the Belichick-Parcells succession deal. Why would anyone in their right mind bring McD in after he reneged on the Indy position? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Minorities are interviewed for each HC job- some get job, some don’t. Seems to work ?♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I love that in 2020 the white man feels like he’s being oppressed at every turn. But I guess when you come from privilege, equality can seem like oppression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said: I love that in 2020 the white man feels like he’s being oppressed at every turn. But I guess when you come from privilege, equality can seem like oppression What nonesense are you talking about? Ridiculous comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said: I love that in 2020 the white man feels like he’s being oppressed at every turn. But I guess when you come from privilege, equality can seem like oppression This is the very kind of stupid comment this intelligent, well done thread doesn't need. Be better or be worse elsewhere. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: McDaniels would already be a HC if he hadn't left Indy at the altar in favor of some shady redux of the Belichick-Parcells succession deal. Why would anyone in their right mind bring McD in after he reneged on the Indy position? No clue I am just stating what all the talking heads were saying.. that McDaniels is a hot commodity again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, whatdrought said: This is the very kind of stupid comment this intelligent, well done thread doesn't need. Be better or be worse elsewhere. This has been a great thread.... I believe you see more of a change when the owners are younger and not these guys 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, whatdrought said: This is the very kind of stupid comment this intelligent, well done thread doesn't need. Be better or be worse elsewhere. I completely agree with you. I sometimes wonder how people like that get by in life. Mind boggling comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: This is the very kind of stupid comment this intelligent, well done thread doesn't need. Be better or be worse elsewhere. Truth hurts huh? 1 hour ago, wppete said: I completely agree with you. I sometimes wonder how people like that get by in life. Mind boggling comment. I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, buffalobillswin said: Truth hurts huh? I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re white. Oh look, there's the racism we've all been looking for. Tool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said: Truth hurts huh? I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re white. Its 2020. Please refer to us as Low-melanin American. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: Its 2020. Please refer to us as Low-melanin American. Speak for yourself. I identify as black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Oh look, there's the racism we've all been looking for. Tool. You’re right. The NFL is a total meritocracy! Color doesn’t matter at all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, buffalobillswin said: I love that in 2020 the white man feels like he’s being oppressed at every turn. But I guess when you come from privilege, equality can seem like oppression If a black kid comes from a home that brings in over $200,000 and is able to send him to a private school, does he have more privilege than a white kid growing up in the sticks, whose family can barely make ends meet? serious question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, buffalobillswin said: You’re right. The NFL is a total meritocracy! Color doesn’t matter at all!! You're a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, JaCrispy said: If a black kid comes from a home that brings in over $200,000 and is able to send him to a private school, does he have more privilege than a white kid growing up in the sticks, whose family can barely make ends meet? serious question... Seriously dude be more diverse in your everyday life. Make friends with some Tyrones and Joakims. Your questions will answer themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If a black kid comes from a home that brings in over $200,000 and is able to send him to a private school, does he have more privilege than a white kid growing up in the sticks, whose family can barely make ends meet? serious question... Don't bother with this schmuck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: This has been a great thread.... I believe you see more of a change when the owners are younger and not these guys Roony hired Tomlin when he was pretty dang old. How young to they have to be? Snyder is 55. The Roony Rule was enacted when Dan was 70 years old. Danged ole old guys. Edited January 9, 2020 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The Rooney Rule is fine. And it is working just fine. Anyone throwing around terms like "SJW" is just as bad an extremist as Stephen A, just to the opposite extreme. Fact is (or WAS), the NFL really was a good ol boys club. Hard to break into for anyone from the outside. The Rooney Rule opened doors to interviews and made Front Offices familiar with coaches they may never had met without it. So Stephen A, and the Rule Haters, can all quit crying. Live your lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If a black kid comes from a home that brings in over $200,000 and is able to send him to a private school, does he have more privilege than a white kid growing up in the sticks, whose family can barely make ends meet? serious question... I can only speak for myself. I was most definitely the latter and worse off than that. I grew up in the 70s/80s. Given where I grew up, I was under the impression for most of my life that everything I achieved was simply due to my awesomeness and a lot of it was. Now that I'm older, I can look back and say that being a fairly well-spoken white-guy has offered me a relatively frictionless life. It is impossible for me to say which opportunities I may have been denied or what other hurdles I would have had to clear if I was black. I have only walked in my shoes. But I listen in when black people describe their experiences and I try to process it all. I try to process what it means when a black mother tells her son he needs to be perfect because society (generally) won't tolerate anything less from a black male. There was a great NYT piece that statistically showed that black kids who have wealthy parents have much poorer outcomes and are much more likely to drop income levels than comparable white kids. What is missing in your scenario is education. If you told me both kids took their k-12 education seriously, then I would say the latter will have infinitely more privilege than the former. However, if the latter doesn't value their education, then it comes dicier. 16 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Don't bother with this schmuck. I like him/her. I think I will bother. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, SDS said: I like him/her. I think I will bother. Glad to see you endorse framing discussions, and the value of peoples opinion on what color they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If a black kid comes from a home that brings in over $200,000 and is able to send him to a private school, does he have more privilege than a white kid growing up in the sticks, whose family can barely make ends meet? serious question... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html If you can't read it then google: Extensive Data Shows Punishing Reach of Racism for Black Boys and you will see the answer to the question you just asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Speak for yourself. I identify as black. So can people in this wonderful new culture, can people identify as any race they want to? I always wanted to be Polynesian, (even though it really isnt a race) so I am going to start identifying myself as Polynesian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said: Truth hurts huh? I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re white. You are going nowhere in life my friend. Keep thinking everyone is against. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Don't bother with this schmuck. Don’t bother with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, JaCrispy said: Don’t bother with me? No, the guy you were responding to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: No, the guy you were responding to. Stick around, it’s about to get good...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: So can people in this wonderful new culture, can people identify as any race they want to? I always wanted to be Polynesian, (even though it really isnt a race) so I am going to start identifying myself as Polynesian A Polynesian oil baron. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, JaCrispy said: Stick around, it’s about to get good...? yeah looks like one fool is going to blow up a great 10 page conversation thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, JaCrispy said: Stick around, it’s about to get good...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, wppete said: yeah looks like one fool is going to blow up a great 10 page conversation thread. I count two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Stick around, it’s about to get good...? If by good, you mean @SDS shuts this ***** down, then yes I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: If by good, you mean @SDS shuts this ***** down, then yes I agree. I'd rather watch him lay the smack down for a little while first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, SDS said: I count two... relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, SDS said: I count two... Which two would those be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, SWATeam said: A Polynesian oil baron. I like it. Polynesian oil sounds like a salad dressing one would find at a panera bread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, SDS said: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html If you can't read it then google: Extensive Data Shows Punishing Reach of Racism for Black Boys and you will see the answer to the question you just asked. SDS I really appreciate you allowing us to have this civil discussion...it has been a pleasure learning and sharing with my bills brethren...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, wppete said: relax those were the days when you could make instant millions with a tshirt like this.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, row_33 said: those were the days when you could make instant millions with a tshirt like this.... This is my favourite ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 and it's twin... half the high school was wearing one of them in the mid-80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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