Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) I love McDermott and know he is the right coach for this team. However after watching game film of this game he is going to realize that our offense plays much better in the no huddle/ hurry up. All our scores today came when they weren't huddling and putting pressure on the Defense. It gives us more time to make adjustments and less time for them and keeps them on their heals. It doesn't need to be 11 personnel either, go 21, 22 whatever just move with urgency and hurry the hell up! Edited December 22, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Offensive struggles? Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. 7 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Offensive struggles? Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. That didn't help but it was obvious the offense sucked when it huddled and and didn't when they didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The defense lost this game, period. No way that Pat’s offense should put 24 points on the board, especially when the offense didn’t turn the ball over and give them any seriously short fields. Poor tackling was a big factor for sure. The defense has always told the offense get us 17points and we will do the rest. Well, not today. Still all in all a really good playoff type game. surely nothing to hang their heads about. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Offensive struggles? Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. Sony is the softest RB in the league and all night he got extra yards. Edited December 22, 2019 by BananaB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Offensive struggles? Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. Tough to argue both points. 21 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: That didn't help but it was obvious the offense sucked when it huddled and and didn't when they didn't. Also tough to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Win as a team, lose as a team. It’s that simple. They lost as a team today. If everyone wants to argue over who is more to blame I’ll enjoy the hot takes lol But there’s 4 ways it can go tonight. Allen Daboll Offensive line Defense maybe 5 cause we want to blame officials too crap 6 now cause ya know duke.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off Here here let him play now 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off I'm starting to doubt we will ever see it under McDermott. This keep it close obsession he has is going to limit this team 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off we are, and as it stands right now the hurry up is our best chance of winning. If we do this slow huddle in the playoffs we might win a game, depending on opponent. 4 hours ago, Bleedbuffaloblue said: The defense lost this game, period. No way that Pat’s offense should put 24 points on the board, especially when the offense didn’t turn the ball over and give them any seriously short fields. Poor tackling was a big factor for sure. The defense has always told the offense get us 17points and we will do the rest. Well, not today. Still all in all a really good playoff type game. surely nothing to hang their heads about. the Defense had its struggles but if the offense was put on full tilt we win this game, no need to use the huddle and get to the line late and let the defense dictate our actions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Win as a team, lose as a team. It’s that simple. They lost as a team today. If everyone wants to argue over who is more to blame I’ll enjoy the hot takes lol But there’s 4 ways it can go tonight. Allen Daboll Offensive line Defense maybe 5 cause we want to blame officials too crap 6 now cause ya know duke.. This is not a hot take . Not using the no huddle consistently IS THE REASON for this teams offensive failures. When they use it we score more and if you score more you win more, its that simple. 3 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: I'm starting to doubt we will ever see it under McDermott. This keep it close obsession he has is going to limit this team it is. We turned the corner after the Cleveland loss and put up three impressive wins in a row but we struggled against the ravens and it welp that's it lets go back to our old clunker ways. Barely worked against Pittsburgh because their QB is a duck, but when you play good teams its not going to get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Here here let him play now we have to or we wont go far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: we have to or we wont go far. It seems so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 hours ago, whorlnut said: Offensive struggles? Please. This game was lost by poor tackling from our precious defense and horrendous conservative coaching once we got the lead. It wasn’t one thing. Allen hits Knox in the endzone on the last drive and it’s tied. It was a group effort loss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: It seems so obvious. it does, he figured it out 6 wks ago, hopefully after this game he will go back to it. He has always been a defensive guy and has a process and its probably hard for him to embrace an aggressive offense as he believes the other way is the way to winning, but after watching film of today and last week has to re-emphasise that the ravens game was an aberration and that right now the no huddle is what is best for this team. Maybe in the future we can huddle up and be effective but right now its no consistent enough for wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Virgil said: It wasn’t one thing. Allen hits Knox in the endzone on the last drive and it’s tied. It was a group effort loss That was not an easy pass. Yes, we would love for him to hit it but he cannot risk it being short. He missed Knox earlier on an even harder one. It looked fairly easy but it was not at all. A lot of times the TV angles are grossly inadequate. That said, even though neither of those two passes were easy for anyone, you would have liked for him to hit one of the two. Anyone who thinks those were routine passes knows nothing. It needs to be a near perfect pass. Edited December 22, 2019 by Kelly the Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: we have to or we wont go far. Exactly- Bens first year in Pitt he was a game manager, albeit more accurate and then year 2 they took the cuffs off. It is time to quit the conservative *****. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off Step by step. This year it’s clear that they purposely have put him in the game manager sort of role. The idea is to let the defense hold teams down, have a strong ground game and limit Allen’s mistakes. I get that isn’t where Allen will thrive in this league but that was and is the plan for this year. Next year when Allen shows even more growth in camp and preseason Daboll will loosen the shackles even more. I am very confident of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Josh is a playmaker. Period. It's obvious and consistent. Trying to make him a game manager puts restraints on him. I think we're a better, more dangerous team, and possible great team if the shackles are taken off Yes, but Josh needs to fix his mechanics and be better on some of these throws. With the errant passes he throws now, having him sling it will result in even more. The kid is a baller and I love everything about him, but he's gotta fix the footwork so it's more consistent before we turn him loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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