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38 minutes ago, the skycap said:

How much longer MAJ?

It is gonna come off today or tomorrow with the loss. 

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Titans win today and we win next week we lock our playoff spot with 2 games to play

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2 minutes ago, 12+83=6 said:

I do.  I know a poor QB when I see one.  Come see me when you get back from school...

Cool. Then come back when the Bills get a new QB. We’ll be waiting to hear from you. 

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1 minute ago, njbuff said:

Mahomes may not last this game. He is taking BIG shots.

Now there is a dude with no O-line!

 

Allen should watch and learn

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17 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

I mean people keep running at Daboll with the pitchforks but here we are talking about missed TD's on deep passes and drops on short passes.  2 plays before the fouth down we had a screen that picked up something like 17 yards called back for a penalty.  I'm not sure Daboll is the one shooting the offense in the foot.

 

The truth is usually in the middle, there were some plays Daboll called that just had little chance of working. That happens, but what I struggle with is when he goes back to the well time and time again when he needs to except that what he drew up on the whiteboard blew up on the field.

 

He also called some really good plays. Early in the second half we were facing a 3rd and less than 5 and he called a great run play to the right and our Guard - yes, #70 Ford, looked outside where there was no one to block, spun in a complete circle, and let the defender that was actually sitting in his inside gap run right by him and destroy the play from behind. A bit early to call him a bust, but he has no right to be on the field right now, and I do not care where he was drafted.

 

I think Ford was pretty brutal this game no matter where they had him, but I will wait for some deeper analysis by better men than I before I say for certain.

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2 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Mahomes may not last this game. He is taking BIG shots.

Shots that aren’t allowed on TB. 

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11 minutes ago, 12+83=6 said:

I don't care about the Ravens offense.  I care about our offense, and it concerns me greatly.

 

Our offense killed Denver and the Cowboys who had very good defenses prior.  Baltimore doesn't let up a lot of scores.  Yes, as a Bills fan I hope we do better.  I don't know how this one game concerns you greatly after the last month that we have had.  The Pats only put up 20.  SF only put up 17.  LA 6.  Hou 7.  I mean we have done as well as anybody since the changes Baltimore has made.

 

If you expected to win the SB this year then be concerned.  I thought we would barely compete this year so they have already blown away my expectations.

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35 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

This is a lose-lose situation in regards to fan 20/20 hindsight.

 

If he throws short of the sticks and Beasley doesn't make it, fans will freak out that he didn't throw to the sticks.

 

If he misses the throw to the sticks, fans will freak out that he missed the underneath guy.

 

The real criticism here is that Brown's route should've been squared off at the sticks to create separation and get the 1st down, not the touchdown.

And so what I think you are saying is Daboll should be modifying the offense in light of Allen's inconsistencies? That the brown throw for the touchdown could of been a. Shorter throw call but more guaranteed? 

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Bully teams like the Ravens made me want Trent Williams.  I hope we can build the toughness on O with the talent in FA and the next draft.

 

Good learning game for the youngsters, the Ravens played at a playoff level on defense.  Both teams did.

 

Offense has to find answers for this pressure because it's on film now.

 

Defense continues to impress, not  happy about that blown coverage TD, but they really did a nice job otherwise.

 

 

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Tough game for the O. Good learning experience. This team struggles with blitz pressure.  Saw it in all the losses. Expect to see that the rest of the way. 
 

next Sunday night is going to be epic!!!  

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6 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said:

The part about Beasley always open

 

the part about John brown not winning one one one in the last two minutes against Cleveland or the Ravens

 

The part about needing a big wr 

 

just waiting on your insightful responses 

First off, you don't know beasley always open,  second, you mention Brown, if Allen possibley throw a catch able ball instead of over throwing receivers maybe we could win so let's not blame it on anyone person.

 

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Gentlemen:  I hope any questions/doubts anyone had about the quality of the Bills is silenced. The BUF D did more than others vs LJ.  It is interesting to read all the comments from you guys re the BUF play calling. Our Ravens board was going ballistic with the Ravens calls, also. We saw more garbage/gimmick stuff today than we’ve seen all year from the Ravens. Much of that, I think, was because of the success BUF was having in slowing down LJ. 

We all agree that the BUF OL ought to donate today’s paycheck to Josh Allen’ masseuse and accupuncturist. I said on Sat that I was less than impressed with Ford on the OL. That was Re-enforced today. 

Other random thoughts:
Singletary is a nice back..maybe not a bell-cow, but good. 

Edmunds should be a Pro-Bowl LB for quite a while. Just needs consistency. 
Micah Hyde likes to hit people. 
Ed Oliver has Beast potential. 
Beasley is a PITA for opposing D’s. 
 

Overall, BUF should be proud of what you have in the Bills. Young & talented. Hope for many more years of BUF-BAL showdowns. 
 

Now let’s go root on KC. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Our offense killed Denver and the Cowboys who had very good defenses prior.  Baltimore doesn't let up a lot of scores.  Yes, as a Bills fan I hope we do better.  I don't know how this one game concerns you greatly after the last month that we have had.  The Pats only put up 20.  SF only put up 17.  LA 6.  Hou 7.  I mean we have done as well as anybody since the changes Baltimore has made.

 

If you expected to win the SB this year then be concerned.  I thought we would barely compete this year so they have already blown away my expectations.

 

12+83=6 is an absolute jag off, don't pay him no mind.

 

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30 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

They knew that Allen can’t complete the long ball so the just kept blitzing.  The receivers are open but he has not been able to hit them all year.  They should be concerned at OBD

 

That isn't why they just kept blitzing.  They just kept blitzing because that's what they do on defense.  They are almost 50% blitzing on passing downs this season.  Its not just today.

 

PS... long balls aren't the answer to the blitz duh.

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2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Your assessment of the game is all your agenda rambling only about a QB. It's a silly crusade in all honesty.

If you can't understand how poorly the O-line played which directly affected Allen's play what is there to say? There were also some crucial dropped passes and penalties at the worst possible times. 

 

Yada, yada, yada -> Allen missed some deep or long throws. It happens to every QB in the league.  This was a team loss on O whom tried to climb back to late.

There certainly seems to be a crusade of some posters who just seemingly pop up when the bills lose. It’s kind of funny , and annoying. They are  no where to be found or have nothing to contribute anything of substance when we win or where we need to improve. 

 

Most of us have no problem criticizing our qb, when he’s not playing well.First half he sucked, I had no problem second half with Josh.  But some posters fail to acknowledge  the sum of all parts, yes he needs to make more plays, throws. But when our guys drop balls, oline gets blown up, theirs roles play just as important part to the success or failure each and every down. 

 

To hate on our Josh over and over is just kinda lazy. 

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22 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

2018: Ravens 47, Bills 3

2019: Ravens 24, Bills 17

2020: 😏

 

Unless we something beat NE to the one seed, I think 2020 will be a score of 0 to 0 for 0 games 😆

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13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


I am not complaining. I'd have loved to have seen them win, but they are not quite there yet. They are close.

However, anytime Josh Allen has a poor game (to me his first quarter was terrible, Daboll did him no favors, and the dropsies of the receivers were painful to watch) he learns from it.  Here's hoping he gets better after this game, too. 

And, I agree with you, first Q Josh and 4th Q Josh were not the same guy. 

 

 

I’m both disappointed and encouraged. Strange combo, but that sums it up. 

 

 

Just WIN next week! I love our leadership and trust they will be ready. 🙏

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If Bills offense somewhat showed up today that was a win for sure.  Too many three and outs and that turnover in their own end was the game.  

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3 minutes ago, Jaydee414 said:

Gentlemen:  I hope any questions/doubts anyone had about the quality of the Bills is silenced. The BUF D did more than others vs LJ.  It is interesting to read all the comments from you guys re the BUF play calling. Our Ravens board was going ballistic with the Ravens calls, also. We saw more garbage/gimmick stuff today than we’ve seen all year from the Ravens. Much of that, I think, was because of the success BUF was having in slowing down LJ. 

We all agree that the BUF OL ought to donate today’s paycheck to Josh Allen’ masseuse and accupuncturist. I said on Sat that I was less than impressed with Ford on the OL. That was Re-enforced today. 

Other random thoughts:
Singletary is a nice back..maybe not a bell-cow, but good. 

Edmunds should be a Pro-Bowl LB for quite a while. Just needs consistency. 
Micah Hyde likes to hit people. 
Ed Oliver has Beast potential. 
Beasley is a PITA for opposing D’s. 
 

Overall, BUF should be proud of what you have in the Bills. Young & talented. Hope for many more years of BUF-BAL showdowns. 
 

Now let’s go root on KC. 
 

 

Nice take. You’re more positive on what the bills did today then a lot of bills “fans”.

 

You guys played well and are gonna be a handful in the playoffs. That being said, watch out if we see you again cause our QB ain’t giving you another! ;)

 

good game man. Rooting for you to take that #1 seed and run with it!

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The defense played really well except on that long TD. The offense was awful in the first half and a little better in the second. Allen did not have a good game but his receivers sure didn't give him much help. Several drops that shouldn't happen as well as several throws that were just bad. Flags, flags, flags... Seemed like there were flags on pretty much every play. I hate games like that.

 

We've now lost to the Patriots and the Ravens, two of the best teams this season, in games where we had the ball and could have scored for a win or a draw. That's not that bad. It's not good enough, but this season sure is a step in the right direction. Hopefully Josh keeps improving and start making those longer throws. 

 

It really sucks that had they just played okay in the first they could have won this and silenced all the Ravens hype.

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Some may fault Allen for that last throw, but those are the throws I want to see more of from him; throws to covered receivers where he gives them the chance to make a play on the ball. Allen has really worked hard to protect the ball, but I think it has translated to overthrown balls and an aversion to throwing those 50/50 balls.

I think he will gradually get more comfortable making those throws and we need to get him another weapon that can win more of those too.

 

 

 

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