MJS Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 It's a fools errand to try to identify which defender is supposed to be in which gap. Only the ones with the assignments know that. Watching those videos it is hard for me to tell if Edmunds or Milano is supposed to fill the gap. Maybe both of them are equally to blame. Or maybe the linemen are not holding their ground well enough and producing too many large gaps to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, MJS said: It's a fools errand to try to identify which defender is supposed to be in which gap. Only the ones with the assignments know that. Watching those videos it is hard for me to tell if Edmunds or Milano is supposed to fill the gap. Maybe both of them are equally to blame. Or maybe the linemen are not holding their ground well enough and producing too many large gaps to fill. While that is very much generally true... The techniques the lineman are playing can give a better idea of gap responsibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: I agree that he has to play better but up until the recent musical chairs at DT Edmunds HAD been playing extremely well. Now my head is spinning. Weren't you among the loudest voices calling out Edmunds for not hitting the right gap as the biggest problem with the run defense? The DT carousel started AFTER the Miami game, apparently when their OC uncovered the weakness in the run D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 5 hours ago, klos63 said: I think that's too much generalization. It's the linebackers job to fill the gaps and that's not being done. Just for clarification it’s not that it’s not being done it’s that it’s not 100% fit it up doesn’t make it OKJust for clarification it’s not that it’s not being done it’s that it’s not 100% fit it up doesn’t make it OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) First one looked squarely to be Milano and 2nd one looked like 98 taking a very hard angle to the other side of the line leaving a giant gap. The other thing is McD plays some cover 4. Cover 4 is know for being good against the pass and against outside runs but requires good gap integrity or you get burned between the tackles. Teams are just attacking his scheme the way they are taught to attack it. I expect to see more Shaq, because he isn't a speed rusher anyway, and less wide base DEs so teams don't have such giant lanes going forward. We aren't getting the outside edge rush anyway so why take such wide stances? Edited November 6, 2019 by Locomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It is one of my gripes with Star. I don't feel like he is a finisher. I felt it on that play and I felt it again on the play Sunday where he ends up facing his own endzone. He doesn't completely blow his assignment, he knows his job but he just doesn't finish and there are plays that he could make at the end of a down, if he just maintained his effort, that might just hold that run to fewer yards than it otherwise goes for. Is it just me or does it seem like star completely runs by the play because he can’t move sideways Edited November 6, 2019 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 5 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: We know where Rex Ryan would be looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Fwiw pff doesn't think very highly of Milano's play this season. https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/matt-milano/11918 Edmunds is rated much higher. https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/tremaine-edmunds/50905 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 As others have mentioned, it’s near impossible to know what their assignments/rules/keys are on these plays. That being said, there is one major issue here regardless: Hesitation. Their lack of reaction directly leads to them catching blocks on their heels. that being said, the defense is still playing well. McD would rather give up those runs than a big pass play IMO. Having players as twitchy and athletic as Milano/Edmunds means we sacrifice size and “fill” in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: It’s not just about getting bigger and stronger. He hesitates and is slow to react. It’s been the case since day 1... I don’t think he has the instincts to play MLB, but maybe I’m wrong and he figures it out. He hesitates because he is overthinking Usually a veteran will hit a hump and learn to start playing and not thinking. It's not a guarantee but I think Tremaine will get there Edited November 6, 2019 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, GG said: Now my head is spinning. Weren't you among the loudest voices calling out Edmunds for not hitting the right gap as the biggest problem with the run defense? The DT carousel started AFTER the Miami game, apparently when their OC uncovered the weakness in the run D. That IS the biggest problem with the run defense imo. And he had been playing extremely well up until Miami. They've been shuffling the defensive line rotation ever since H Phillips went down and it caught up with them. Go back and watch the second quarter of the NE game. It was the first time iirc they experimented w/Peko and Oliver and the Pats noticed it immediately and started gashing them on the ground. Looked very similar to the run defense the last 2.5. Frazier immediately puts Lotulelei and Phillips back in, things tighten back up and we hold. But that imo was the start of the cat-and-mouse they've been playing w/opposing OCs wrt DT rotation. It was the same scheme that game, just everyone was firing and they were really up for it. Once they start getting out-schemed, they (LBs especially) start to hesitate and react instead. Then they get into leveling wars between Frazier/McD and OCs like Redskins game. They need to get back to trusting the scheme, playing solid one gap and trusting the guy next to you is going to do his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 6 hours ago, the skycap said: My favorite Milano. Love her agenda too Same here. Loved her in "Charmed" tv series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: I agree that he has to play better but up until the recent musical chairs at DT Edmunds HAD been playing extremely well. Edmunds last good game was vs the Pats imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Gotta disagree. I don't think it's any one person, but the every game lately I see Edmunds making tackles well downfield, rarely meeting the RB at the line. And when he does, he's too tall & hitting up high, so he gets pushed back or plowed over. I'm not saying Edmunds is even bad or anything, only that for whatever reason (scheme, positioning, I don't know) he hasn't been very good at stopping the run. I mentioned his height because I'm starting to think his lengthy body might make it harder for him to get down & stop these strong, stout RB's at the point of contact. It helps in pass defense though, so it's a give & take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Asked about this yesterday and I thought so....one of the best Guards in the game absolutely mauls Oliver here omg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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