Tiberius Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Not unless Cy Vance wants to go to prison. Let's wait till Trump/Putin actually kill the Republic before sending people to the gulag, ok? Seriously, what is Trump hiding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 So its its off to the Supreme Court with the argument--seriously--by Trumps attorneys that he is totally immune from investigation, even if he shoots someone. They argued that! We will see what the best purchased judges will say. The Federalist society battled for years to get ruling like this decided in the wealthy and powerful interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Wait, so you mean that Trump is, in fact, God Emperor of the United States, and gets to tell New York State how to enforce New York law?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Do we get to see what he is hiding now? What kind of idiot thinks people hide something in their tax returns? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: What kind of idiot thinks people hide something in their tax returns? They should make the Trump Video game, Try and stay one step ahead of the law while committing crimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: What kind of idiot thinks people hide something in their tax returns? I thought we were going to see the 1099 Trump received from Russia for KGB operative income? Edited November 4, 2019 by dubs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: They should make the Trump Video game, Try and stay one step ahead of the law while committing crimes! I know when I commit tax fraud, I always report it on my Schedule 5310D: Unreported Income From Criminal Enterprises. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, dubs said: I thought we were going to see the 1099 Trump from from Russia for KGB operative income? Problem is Trump never reported his income as a Russian asset. I heard MSNBC has sources close to the Russian government that will verify the payments 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, dubs said: I thought we were going to see the 1099 Trump from from Russia for KGB operative income? But that's only illegal if you don't report it on your Schedule 3940: Election-Related Extortion and Bribery, and forget to file Form 671RS: Recharging Russian Relations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: They should make the Trump Video game, Try and stay one step ahead of the law while committing crimes! So another variant of Grand Theft Auto or Red Dead Redemption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, /dev/null said: Problem is Trump never reported his income as a Russian asset. I heard MSNBC has sources close to the Russian government that will verify the payments He probably didn't itemize, and took the standard deduction that year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 So the Democrats are desperate to 'expose' the tax returns of a US Citizen, who's been under the annual scrutiny on his personal finances by a federal agency like the IRS....even years before he considered running for office....but they have less than zero interest in learning how a sitting Vice President was leveraging US Taxpayers dollars for his own personal benefit? Nice! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: What kind of idiot thinks people hide something in their tax returns? The same type of idiot who thinks that they're going to get to see Grand Jury evidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 ....does anybody really give a rat's azz about his 'effin tax returns?.....isn't that drum broken?....Jesus........and we even have dopey Gov. Andrew "Sr Fredo" Cuomo wasting MORE taxpayer dollars to get them.....same azzclown who made numerous taxpayer sponsored trips to Puerto Rico to show support for Trump's "neglected state"......SAME one the FBI is working OT to indict all of the government crooks who stole billions....SMH..........maybe they should take a look at ALBANY next........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....does anybody really give a rat's azz about his 'effin tax returns?.....isn't that drum broken?....Jesus........and we even have dopey Gov. Andrew "Sr Fredo" Cuomo wasting MORE taxpayer dollars to get them.....same azzclown who made numerous taxpayer sponsored trips to Puerto Rico to show support for Trump's "neglected state"......SAME one the FBI is working OT to indict all of the government crooks who stole billions....SMH..........maybe they should take a look at ALBANY next........... Of course they do! Once they get his tax returns, they will see that he filed a form 4842a, conclusively showing that he received assistance from the Russians and Ukrainians to win the election. There will also be line items deducting the payoffs to the women he supposedly ***** prior to the election, as well as 1099 forms showing income received from foreign bribes! With those tax returns, they will FINALLY have him *THIS* time!!!11111oneoneoneeleven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Interesting that the same people who have been screaming from the rooftops over any hint of perceived corruption, no matter how contrived the allegations may be, are suddenly applauding the corrupt abuse of prosecutorial power to achieve political ends. It's almost as if they're all lying sacks of ***** who fully support all that they rail against as long as the perpetrator is a member of their cult. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Rob's House said: Interesting that the same people who have been screaming from the rooftops over any hint of perceived corruption, no matter how contrived the allegations may be, are suddenly applauding the corrupt abuse of prosecutorial power to achieve political ends. It's almost as if they're all lying sacks of ***** who fully support all that they rail against as long as the perpetrator is a member of their cult. the Dems and other liberals always claimed the US was just as evil as the USSR for human rights protection and abuses it was always a foolish comparison but the Dems are doing their best to imitate USSR methods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, row_33 said: the Dems and other liberals always claimed the US was just as evil as the USSR for human rights protection and abuses it was always a foolish comparison but the Dems are doing their best to imitate USSR methods They tend to support the unchecked power of the state with the child like naivety to believe that as long as Democrats are in power all will be well because Democrats are good, moral, and virtuous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Of course they do! Once they get his tax returns, they will see that he filed a form 4842a, conclusively showing that he received assistance from the Russians and Ukrainians to win the election. There will also be line items deducting the payoffs to the women he supposedly ***** prior to the election, as well as 1099 forms showing income received from foreign bribes! With those tax returns, they will FINALLY have him *THIS* time!!!11111oneoneoneeleven. ...Kremlin Savings and Loan direct deposit I presume?....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Why do I get the feeling this is still going to be going on in 2024 if the Ds hold the House? Supreme Court temporarily halts court order requiring accountants to turn over Trump’s tax returns to Congress * The Supreme Court temporarily blocks a ruling requiring accounting firm Mazars to turn President Donald Trump’s tax returns over to House Democrats. * The House Committee on Oversight and Reform has until Thursday to respond. * The president is trying at the top court to block two efforts to obtain his tax returns. The Supreme Court on Monday temporarily blocked a ruling that requires President Donald Trump’s longtime accounting firm to turn over his tax returns to Congress. The temporary stay order signed by Chief Justice John Roberts gives the Democratic-controlled House Committee on Oversight and Reform until Thursday to respond. The document did not note any public votes or dissents. </snip> 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Eh, the bottom line is that SCOTUS is going to ultimately rule that they are not going to get involved in second-guessing what a 'legislative purpose' is for Congress to get access to records. The real question is whether or not they'll outright refuse to hear the case, or (assuming they hear it) the timing of when they're going to schedule oral arguments and whether or not they will release the decision before or after the November election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Why do I get the feeling this is still going to be going on in 2024 if the Ds hold the House? Supreme Court temporarily halts court order requiring accountants to turn over Trump’s tax returns to Congress * The Supreme Court temporarily blocks a ruling requiring accounting firm Mazars to turn President Donald Trump’s tax returns over to House Democrats. * The House Committee on Oversight and Reform has until Thursday to respond. * The president is trying at the top court to block two efforts to obtain his tax returns. The Supreme Court on Monday temporarily blocked a ruling that requires President Donald Trump’s longtime accounting firm to turn over his tax returns to Congress. The temporary stay order signed by Chief Justice John Roberts gives the Democratic-controlled House Committee on Oversight and Reform until Thursday to respond. The document did not note any public votes or dissents. </snip> My entire issue with this demand is this: Quote The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Can someone please explain to me why so called Congressional oversight takes precedent over a person's 4th rights? I don't care what IRS regulations say, Constitutional rights are absolute. I get it... but they subpoenaed them! Okay, cool... on what grounds? For what crime? You can't subpoena something because you want to look for a crime, just like you can't come in my house without a warrant or my permission. SO what right would you hav e to look at my tax returns without a warrant or my permission? If the Supremes rule against Trump on this based only on the subpoenas with no evidence of a crime, it will be a continuance of the shredding of the Constitution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cinga said: Can someone please explain to me why so called Congressional oversight takes precedent over a person's 4th rights? There is no privacy interest that binds the government from records that are turned over to a different agency of the government. 7 minutes ago, Cinga said: Constitutional rights are absolute. No, they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, Cinga said: Constitutional rights are absolute. Then where's my main battle tank? 57 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Eh, the bottom line is that SCOTUS is going to ultimately rule that they are not going to get involved in second-guessing what a 'legislative purpose' is for Congress to get access to records. They should, simply on the narrow question of "What legislative purpose does Congress have for requesting the records from a private accounting firm and not the IRS?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, Cinga said: Can someone please explain to me why so called Congressional oversight takes precedent over a person's 4th rights? Because #orangemanbad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Then where's my main battle tank? Yeah, or my nuclear bomb... But that isn't what the right to keep and bear was about as I'm sure you know. But for those that don't. it boils down to a couple things... The word "bear" as in you can carry it, and the reason this right was so important to the militia to begin with, for that. look to The United States vs Miller . You see by this ruling, the court said that yes indeed the state had the right to regulate a shotgun. Weird huh? But it could not regulate modern weapons of war! You see, they decided that since at any time there could be a call to arms, many people may have to bring their own weapons. Meaning that weapon then HAD to be something used in warfare at thew time... and oh... BEARABLE! Howitzers and such the government had to supply I guess, but RPGs, bazookas, LAWS (you can carry these)... and the modern AR15 are off limits to regulation... But if you want to tell me I can't saw off the barrel of my shotgun, well, okay.... I won't.... Wanna tell me I can't hunt elephants with a 22?.... okay... I really think this is the reason the Court hates to take up any 2nd cases... They LOVE precedent, and this case was a doozy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, Cinga said: Yeah, or my nuclear bomb... But that isn't what the right to keep and bear was about as I'm sure you know. But for those that don't. it boils down to a couple things... The word "bear" as in you can carry it, and the reason this right was so important to the militia to begin with, for that. look to The United States vs Miller . You see by this ruling, the court said that yes indeed the state had the right to regulate a shotgun. Weird huh? But it could not regulate modern weapons of war! You see, they decided that since at any time there could be a call to arms, many people may have to bring their own weapons. Meaning that weapon then HAD to be something used in warfare at thew time... and oh... BEARABLE! Howitzers and such the government had to supply I guess, but RPGs, bazookas, LAWS (you can carry these)... and the modern AR15 are off limits to regulation... But if you want to tell me I can't saw off the barrel of my shotgun, well, okay.... I won't.... Wanna tell me I can't hunt elephants with a 22?.... okay... I really think this is the reason the Court hates to take up any 2nd cases... They LOVE precedent, and this case was a doozy... 52 minutes to go from "Constitutional rights are absolute" to "No, they're not." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: 52 minutes to go from "Constitutional rights are absolute" to "No, they're not." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cinga said: Don't speak in absolutes next time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 The rights are absolute, their protection is not. Tyrants gonna tyrant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 11:47 AM, Koko78 said: Of course they do! Once they get his tax returns, they will see that he filed a form 4842a, conclusively showing that he received assistance from the Russians and Ukrainians to win the election. There will also be line items deducting the payoffs to the women he supposedly ***** prior to the election, as well as 1099 forms showing income received from foreign bribes! With those tax returns, they will FINALLY have him *THIS* time!!!11111oneoneoneeleven. I think the whole shebang backfires like a mofo. The point isn’t Russian assistance, or payoffs to the ladies—the point is he paid his taxes! ::patriot emoji:: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1197602596879552519 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 burn them Donald, like Nixon should have burned those tapes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Supreme Court gives a temporary block to the Democrats from accessing Trump's taxes:Link to orderYahoo article, so spelling, punctuation, facts, and clarity are all suspect: </snip> Monday's Supreme Court’s decision is only temporary. Trump’s lawyers now have until noon on Dec. 5 to file a formal petition to the Supreme Court for a hearing on the case. If the justices decide to take the case, it will set up a showdown between Congress and the president that could have long-term ramifications for the balance of power between the two branches of government. But if the Supreme Court decides not to hear the case, then the pause on the lower court order will “terminate automatically,” the Supreme Court said Monday, which would lawmakers the access they're seeking. </snip> 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Finally, justice at last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 ——— oh, it’s financial documents, just not the tax returns the media is telling us.... again they do this.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Yes, how did this criminal get his money if he was broke and no American bank would lend him money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nanker Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Depreciation of capital assets - on paper. Appreciation of capital assets - per market-driven demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Nanker said: Depreciation of capital assets - on paper. Appreciation of capital assets - per market-driven demand. the media has no concept of nuance or accounting/tax rules when their mind is already made up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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