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  1. 1. Pizza: How Important Is the Outer Crust?

    • It makes or breaks the pizza. A decent pizza can't have average outer crust.
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    • The main crust is the most important, but the outer crust is still significantly important.
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    • It's all about the main crust. Outer crust isn't even necessary.
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    • I hate the outer crust. Usually toss it, or give it to the dog.
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12 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I don't see how you can have a good "outer crust" without a good "inner crust".  Its the same dough.  If you make it right and cook it right, you'll get great results.  What I look for is the size of the crumb in the "outer crust" and crispiness/char on the bottom of the pie.  Can the crust support the weight of the slice with a slight bend?  

 

A well made cold fermented pizza dough will produce a crust that even a basic mouth-breathing, picky eating, TBD man-child will happily eat and enjoy.

 

I think you’re too late. We’ve moved on to hookers. Where do you stand there? 

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6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

The correct term is sex worker.  They're called hookers after you've "finished" and they're dead.

Let’s get back to pizza, I’d hate to see you implicate yourself here. 

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9 minutes ago, Helpmenow said:

The pizza crust was outstanding over at lock city. I’ve had a ton of pizzas and this was just done right.

 

If the outer crust was too hard, too gooey, or poorly seasoned ... would that have made you think less of the pizza?

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3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Anyone ever made no-knead pizza dough?  I am going to make some tonight and give it a 48-72 hour cold ferment for pies this weekend.

 

https://food52.com/recipes/16641-jim-lahey-s-no-knead-pizza-dough-margherita-pie

 

Anyone got a recipe for Bocce/La Nova style pizza sauce?

 

I've never had any knead for this kind of dough.

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24 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Anyone ever made no-knead pizza dough?  I am going to make some tonight and give it a 48-72 hour cold ferment for pies this weekend.

 

https://food52.com/recipes/16641-jim-lahey-s-no-knead-pizza-dough-margherita-pie

 

Anyone got a recipe for Bocce/La Nova style pizza sauce?

 

That's a cool dough recipe.

 

When I make sauce (San Marzanos and a few spices), I've been using a blender.  I'm going to try the "hand-squeezed" method mentioned in this recipe.

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I have had great success making this dough recipe but it does take some kneading and I've found the order of operations in mixing affects the final product (although it was probably just dead yeast, temp, humidity). 

 

https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/master-dough-with-starter-51255340

 

The finished product has been amazing.  The few disasters have been: old yeast AND stretching/launching cold dough.  Now if in doubt I check dough temp with an instant read thermometer.  

 

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2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Anyone ever made no-knead pizza dough?  I am going to make some tonight and give it a 48-72 hour cold ferment for pies this weekend.

 

https://food52.com/recipes/16641-jim-lahey-s-no-knead-pizza-dough-margherita-pie

 

Anyone got a recipe for Bocce/La Nova style pizza sauce?

Paciotti (Bocce Club) says he uses fresh Mill flour for the dough..every morning.he doesn't use oil for the out ring of the crust...he spreads the cheese(Sorrento bricks) on the outside for the burn.

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I'm not reading through this entire thread.

 

But the crust is essential. A Brown is correct, if the crust sucks the toppings don't really matter. But I don't believe a pizza HAS to have an outer, unsauced crust. I've had some that have huge outer crusts and were great. Some sauced all the way to the edge, that were great. 

 

But  putting tons of toppings on a pizza has never appealed to me.

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16 minutes ago, The Dean said:

I'm not reading through this entire thread.

 

But the crust is essential. A Brown is correct, if the crust sucks the toppings don't really matter. But I don't believe a pizza HAS to have an outer, unsauced crust. I've had some that have huge outer crusts and were great. Some sauced all the way to the edge, that were great. 

 

But  putting tons of toppings on a pizza has never appealed to me.

  You sir are an artisan.   The crust is by far the most critical element of a pizza.  I do prefer an outer crust that is plain.  The sourdough or Italian taste of the crust has to come through for as many bites as possible for me.  Corn bread sounds appealing.

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1 minute ago, RochesterRob said:

  You sir are an artisan.   The crust is by far the most critical element of a pizza.  I do prefer an outer crust that is plain.  The sourdough or Italian taste of the crust has to come through for as many bites as possible for me.  Corn bread sounds appealing.

 

 

Cornmeal on the stone/brick makes a great surface for baking the pizza!

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@BringBackFergy - Thank you.

 

BringBackFergyToday 10:25 AM

@Gugny The toppings and sauce are fantastic but (gulp - I hate to agree with you) the outer crust is the best part of Harvest pizza....

Before you rush off to the Men’s room for self gratification, please know: I agreed with you in this one instance and for this one pizza joint. Now continue patting yourself on the....back. 

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18 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Before you rush off to the Men’s room for self gratification, please know: I agreed with you in this one instance and for this one pizza joint. Now continue patting yourself on the....back. 

 

So it's accurate to say that the outer crust of the pizza is the most important ... is that a true statement?  Yes or no, please.

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

So it's accurate to say that the outer crust of the pizza is the most important ... is that a true statement?  Yes or no, please.

 

You know that the ONLY truth is that you make BBQ sauce, with BBQ sauce.

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11 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Who's  the horse's ovary that bumped  this abortion.  Let me guess.  LoL...

 

Well, I mean, if you just look up, you can find the own answer to your unnecessary question.  But don't let me get in the way of your pathetic lamping.  LoL...

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Well, I mean, if you just look up, you can find the own answer to your unnecessary question.  But don't let me get in the way of your pathetic lamping.  LoL...

LoL... I know.  Just busting your... 

 

@Gugny Master of the "Turnbuckle  LAMP."

 

Somehow I got caught  lamping.  LMAO.  

 

? ? 

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1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

So it's accurate to say that the outer crust of the pizza is the most important ... is that a true statement?  Yes or no, please.

 

 

 

Your lawyering tactics don't work on me mister!! That's a BS question. I'll re-phrase your question:

 

"So it's accurate to say that the outer crust of the HARVEST pizza is the most important ... is that a true statement?  Yes or no, please."

 

The answer is "Yes, for the Harvest pizza, yes...I did it!! Are you happy?"

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3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Your lawyering tactics don't work on me mister!! That's a BS question. I'll re-phrase your question:

 

"So it's accurate to say that the outer crust of the HARVEST pizza is the most important ... is that a true statement?  Yes or no, please."

 

The answer is "Yes, for the Harvest pizza, yes...I did it!! Are you happy?"

 

Stick to the facts, ma'am.  One more outburst like that and I'll hold you in contempt.

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9 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

Your lawyering tactics don't work on me mister!! That's a BS question. I'll re-phrase your question:

 

"So it's accurate to say that the outer crust of the HARVEST pizza is the most important ... is that a true statement?  Yes or no, please."

 

The answer is "Yes, for the Harvest pizza, yes...I did it!! Are you happy?"

What the hell is HARVEST pizza ? ?. 

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