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Joe Marino (Locked on Bills): Two names he is hearing in 1st for Bills: Jonah Williams, DK Metcalf

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I can't believe anyone actually believes ANYTHING they hear from the teams before the draft even happens...too funny

 

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Just like most drafts the cant miss players will be gone by pick 5 or 6. For the first time in a long time I am confident in a Bills GM that will make the right pick for what they are trying to do. There will be multiple players at #9 that will not be a reach and can help the Bills. It will be a matter of opinion as to who likes the pick or not but the player will be worthy of being picked there. I think most draft guys can make educated guesses but I doubt there are any leaks coming from OBD. 

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53 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

So...

 

No one can possibly know...But there is no way they are taking DK?...Even though no one inside will ever let the info out?...

 

I will tell you this...DK is being dinged by people who either A) Did not bother to watch him, dig in and grind, and are over-concentrated on cone drill times...Or...B) People who watched him and don't know what the hell they are watching, or refuse to consider the many, many factors that contributed to what they are watching...

 

Translation...Do not take my word...I know for certain The Draft Network is stacked with Scouts that DO watch...Multiple games..They understand the nuances of the position...They know what they are seeing and they also know the areas where a prospect can improve through NFL Coaching...DK is the #5 overall Prospect on their consensus board...That can't be overstated...The Bills pick 9th...He's a top 5 prospect on many boards...he's CLEAN off the field...He's dedicated and LOVES football...He's a massively hard worker...He's unassuming but super confident...He's 100% a process-type prospect...100%...That is not to say whatsoever that he is a finished project...Or even close to being finished...But anyone  who thinks there are all these things DK cannot do, outside of being a cat-quick Cole Beasley type of slot ...They are just flat wrong...

 

I agree no one knows...I completely disagree that DK is not fully in the conversation at #9 overall...They may very well go another way...But he's in the conversation...😎

 

This is 4 different Scouting Reports on DK...4 different sets of eyes...1 basic conclusion...Stud...https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/d-k-metcalf

 

 

Cheers to that. 

I find my view this year is much more relaxed than last year. We need a TE, and X WR, Pass Rush Specialist and one could argue OL. I have ideas etc on how each could be accomplished as most do but when the bullets turn live and the board starts falling into place as long as one of these weaknesses are addressed great. You could argue them anyway you can imagine - having a skill WR grow with Allen as a go to OR having a TE outlet saftey valve grow with Allen and be his go to guy as well. Gotta protect the investment and he cant throw downfield w/o protection! And wouldn't it be nice to have someone to pressure the QB besides Jerry? And so on and so forth. All of these are valid agruments and points and I think there are qlty options avbl for each. Its only when you work youself into a tizzy that one is more important than the other or that there is 1 CORRECT answer like mr run D poster that you become pissed and dissapointed. 

Point is i think itll be much harder to dissapoint this year opposed to last.

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4 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I can't believe anyone actually believes ANYTHING they hear from the teams before the draft even happens...too funny

 

There was mostly silence on the Bills and Allen until the last 48 hours before the draft last year. I don't believe anything I hear this week. Ben Allbright was definitely tooting the Allen to Buffalo horn but other than that it was a lot of nothing.

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13 minutes ago, billspro said:

I would be shocked if Metcalf fell out of the top 15. I still think he is pretty much a lock for top 10.

I don't believe he goes top 10.  Too many questions.  It's possible but I doubt it.  15-25 is my prediction.

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9 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I can't believe anyone actually believes ANYTHING they hear from the teams before the draft even happens...too funny

 

I don’t think this came from “the team”... 

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2 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said:

Fine.  Have it your way.  Have fun watching Metcalf and Allen sit on the sidelines, as they watch the run defense get torched week in and week out.

Maybe we can find a Manu-Manu the Slender in the later rounds that can gum up other lineman and open up Edmunds to stay clean and make some tackles...

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6 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

Cheers to that. 

I find my view this year is much more relaxed than last year. We need a TE, and X WR, Pass Rush Specialist and one could argue OL. I have ideas etc on how each could be accomplished as most do but when the bullets turn live and the board starts falling into place as long as one of these weaknesses are addressed great. You could argue them anyway you can imagine - having a skill WR grow with Allen as a go to OR having a TE outlet safety valve grow with Allen and be his go to guy as well. Gotta protect the investment and he cant throw downfield w/o protection! And wouldn't it be nice to have someone to pressure the QB besides Jerry? And so on and so forth. All of these are valid arguments and points and I think there are qlty options avbl for each. Its only when you work yourself into a tizzy that one is more important than the other or that there is 1 CORRECT answer like mr run D poster that you become pissed and disappointed. 

Point is i think itll be much harder to disappoint this year opposed to last.

 

Agreed...

 

I do think folks get a little too enamoured with that Top 10/1st Rd pick being the be all, end all...

 

The truth is good players are Drafted all over...Of the PFF Top 12 DT's in 2018 5 were 1st Rd picks, 2 were 2nd, 2 were 3rd, 1 4th, 1 5th, and one undrafted...The Bills have 10 picks this year and they will get help later in the Draft...They've actually had some success beyond the 1st round recently...Dawkins dropped off a little last year, but he's a late 2nd Rd pick starting at LT in the NFL...A healthy Taron Johnson is one of the best slot CB's in the NFL and he was a 4th Rd Pick... Matt Milano was a 5th Rd pick...Robert Foster was undrafted...

 

I think the Bills need to feel they are getting the best player possible at #9...Regardless of position...We are all going to have our favorites...And if they go against my favorites they are going to hear about it...😂

 

Seriously though...They need to take the guy they love...😎

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2 hours ago, Jamie Mueller said:

 

Strange... almost all of the analysis I've read on the Bills free agent signings strongly disagrees with you. I'm guessing they cobble together a pretty good O-line... even if they don't draft anyone that plays there.

 

I'm not saying those guys won't become starters, I'm saying they are not penciled in.  Only Morse is penciled in.  Everyone else is going to have to earn it and to me that doesn't preclude adding additional talent to the group early.

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Why I love the Metcalf idea is that they can let this kids game grow without thrusting him in the lineup. Think Robert Foster on roids (literally), and while being groomed, can still make an impact. 

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Sometimes where there's smoke there's fire. Last year we kept hearing the Bills were in on Allen as the draft got closer and sure enough, that's who they took. A lot of times teams will dish out the wrong info to find out where leaks come from. Gil Brandt posted an interesting tweet and said when he was with the Cowboys, they allowed a scout they didn't trust to see their board, which had a player they weren't taking ranked as their top choice. The next morning there was a story in the newspaper about who the Cowboys were taking so they found the leak and eliminated it. Not saying that's what the Bills are doing but this time of year, all teams are dishing out false info to throw other teams off and all that. 

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6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s kind of my point on Metcalf. He is RAW. Josh Allen was the same type of prospect. Edmunds was the same type of prospect. They were both physical freaks with questions about their production. Beane wasn’t looking for “solid” guys with a long track record. He was looking for guys that COULD become great. Metcalf is a dice roll but would fit how Beane handled last year.

Imo if Beane really wants a guy with potential to be great he should take Marquis Brown. 👍

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4 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

Between a blue-chip WR and a blue-chip OL/DL/LB, you take the later all the time.  No team wins a SB because of a "disruptive" WR.  You can win because you have a disruptive OL.   The difference between DK and a WR who is available even in round 3 is not that great, IMO.   The OL/DL "elite" pickings go down after Rd. 1.   IMO

I don’t even think DK is the best WR in the draft

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Marino is the same guy who insisted the Bills were about to add an Edge Rusher in a "creative way" and then nothing panned out. I have him placed firmly in the "who cares what he says" category of information providers.

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16 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Marino is the same guy who insisted the Bills were about to add an Edge Rusher in a "creative way" and then nothing panned out. I have him placed firmly in the "who cares what he says" category of information providers.

It’s April 22.

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5 hours ago, Mojo44 said:

 Fine! Agree to disagree. I’ll bet that if either one of us did some research we would find more than a few players were drafted at nine to fit that category. But, that’s actually besides the point. It proves nothing. It’s a relevant.The only question is about the current draft. That’s the only context that is significant here. At nine I would definitely take him over Metcalf if those were the best two options available.

 

There’s a good chance you end up with an average guard and pass on a top 5 NFL WR.  

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Yeah I 'd stay away from DK Metcalf

 

The Bills don't have good luck drafting guys that go by their initials

 

1971 JD Hill
2004 JP Losman
2010 CJ Spiller
2013 EJ Manuel

 

The only initialed player who wasn't a bust was OJ Simpson in 1969, but we all know what happened after he left football

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McShay says he is hearing we are focusing on DLine after adding 6 Offensive Linemen. Who knows what to believe

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8 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

If we draft a lineman high, someone we signed in FA would have to get cut right? Too many bodies.

Maybe but not necessarily.  McDermott, Sirles, Ducasse, Bodine would likely be first 4 out the door.  Boettger and Teller may have PS eligibility a would a late round OL draftee.

The 6 new FAs likely make squad.  And Dawkins.  Teller would likely be 8th OLineman then.  

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4 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

McShay says he is hearing we are focusing on DLine after adding 6 Offensive Linemen. Who knows what to believe

They are focused on DL - but I don’t know where the next DL falls on their board after Quinnen and Oliver, Bosa and Allen -   if all are gone at 9. They aren’t going to dip to the next DL if that guy is further down on their board and and they don’t trade down. 

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23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are focused on DL - but I don’t know where the next DL falls on their board after Quinnen and Oliver, Bosa and Allen -   if all are gone at 9. They aren’t going to dip to the next DL if that guy is further down on their board and and they don’t trade down. 

 

I think Sweat deserves to be in the conversation. I think he is better than Oliver. And I think the Bills have Brian Burns really high on their depth chart.

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1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said:

Marino is the same guy who insisted the Bills were about to add an Edge Rusher in a "creative way" and then nothing panned out. I have him placed firmly in the "who cares what he says" category of information providers.

I think that was Kevin Massare, can't find a tweet from either though to confirm it.

 

 

36 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

McShay says he is hearing we are focusing on DLine after adding 6 Offensive Linemen. Who knows what to believe

Todd McShay is 'hearing a lot of buzz' that Buffalo Bills could trade up to No. 2


Posted Apr 4, 2018

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