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6 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said:

 

I like Harry but he doesn't seem to be making any sort of impact ... haven't gotten any kind of feel as if he could be a pass rusher... maybe they're just bringing him along slowly, not sure, but so far he seems to be JAG on the rotation.

rookie

 

And Meatball did not hit the ground running in his rookie season either.

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4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

rookie

 

And Meatball did not hit the ground running in his rookie season either.

I guess the mistake I made was saying the next Kyle Williams... I can see Harry as the next Kyle...guess what I should have said was I'm looking for that high impact DT...

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3 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said:

I guess the mistake I made was saying the next Kyle Williams... I can see Harry as the next Kyle...guess what I should have said was I'm looking for that high impact DT...

I am at Oliver or Hock because I think it is going to be hard to trade down

 

but I think we can also find a DT in the 2nd round of this draft as well

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22 hours ago, DCOrange said:

https://theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/

 

Bills Picks:

 

Buffalo Bills
1 9 DL Rashan Gary
2 40 OT Kaleb McGary
3 74 WR J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
4 112 TE Josh Oliver
4 131 RB Trayveon Williams
5 147 CB Kris Boyd
5 158 LB Ben Burr-Kirven
6 181 DS Ugo Amadif
7 225 OG Fred Johnson
7 228 PT Mitchell Wishnowsky

 

This (top 3 picks) would be Aaron Maybin level awful for me. Even though I cant see who is available at those spots, I'd imagine there are better options.

 

I do like the 4th round picks and the punter!!

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Only because most reactions on here have been tepid at best, I’m guessing this Mock is probably the closest to what we’ll actually see in a couple of weeks. Rarely do real drafts end up with as much optimistic splash as the ones the fans prefer or predict.

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18 minutes ago, P51 said:

 

This (top 3 picks) would be Aaron Maybin level awful for me. Even though I cant see who is available at those spots, I'd imagine there are better options.

 

I do like the 4th round picks and the punter!!

 

Some of the guys that went shortly after those first 3 picks (focusing on positions that would make at least some sense for Buffalo are):

 

#9: Devin Bush, Andre Dillard, Christian Wilkins, DK Metcalf, Brian Burns, Jonah Williams, TJ Hockenson

#40: Chris Lindstrom, Justin Layne, Dalton Risner, DeAndre Baker, Hakeem Butler, DreMont Jones

#74: Dawson Knox, Miles Sanders, Damien Harris, Nate Davis, David Montgomery, Kelvin Harmon

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3 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

Some of the guys that went shortly after those first 3 picks (focusing on positions that would make at least some sense for Buffalo are):

 

#9: Devin Bush, Andre Dillard, Christian Wilkins, DK Metcalf, Brian Burns, Jonah Williams, TJ Hockenson

#40: Chris Lindstrom, Justin Layne, Dalton Risner, DeAndre Baker, Hakeem Butler, DreMont Jones

#74: Dawson Knox, Miles Sanders, Damien Harris, Nate Davis, David Montgomery, Kelvin Harmon

The bold would be my choices instead. Rather have a versatile OL like Jonah than Hock. TE seems like a reach at 9. Wilkins, maybe.

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2 hours ago, DCOrange said:

 

Some of the guys that went shortly after those first 3 picks (focusing on positions that would make at least some sense for Buffalo are):

 

#9: Devin Bush, Andre Dillard, Christian Wilkins, DK Metcalf, Brian Burns, Jonah Williams, TJ Hockenson

#40: Chris Lindstrom, Justin Layne, Dalton Risner, DeAndre Baker, Hakeem Butler, DreMont Jones

#74: Dawson Knox, Miles Sanders, Damien Harris, Nate Davis, David Montgomery, Kelvin Harmon

 

Thank you for posting those options, I appreciate it!

 

At 9: Wilkins (fits character traits and positional need to a T, ideally IMO trade down target), Burns (Added 20 lb's and still athletically dominated the combine, fits Character as well, pick 9 is fine with me), Williams (if they believe he can play T dtaLB is not a need and Dillard does not fit the physical style, but as a pass blocking LT would fit, especially if they believe Dawkins could slide over to RT full time. Tough choice for me between Hock and Burns, but I go Burns (positional value primarily) here. Immediate impact on the pass rush opposite Hughes and a long term solution given the contractual and age state of the DE position and pass rush. Would be really comfortable moving down to 15 in this situation w/5 guys I like still on the board and a QB being picked at 9.

 

At 40: DeAndre Baker is an easy value pick, although Im trying to figure out his character concerns, Risner could be a back up C, and RT option for now or the future, good value. Lindstrom would be a fantastic value pick, but I think they are happy at G for now. Going Risner here, positional versatility and long term RT. 

 

At 74: Is Kahale Warring available? Im just starting to evaluate Knox, but like what I see for sure and think he can be more productive all around TE in the NFL than he was at Ole Miss. If Warring is available I go him for now, but Knox ability to get vertical and block works as well given what I think they want in a TE.

 

9 - Brian Burns (Edge/DPR - FSU)

40 - Dalton Risner (RT/C/G - Kansas St.)

74 - Dawson Knox (TE - Ole Miss)

Thats what I would do. 

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5 minutes ago, P51 said:

At 74: Is Kahale Warring available? Im just starting to evaluate Knox, but like what I see for sure and think he can be more productive all around TE in the NFL than he was at Ole Miss. If Warring is available I go him for now, but Knox ability to get vertical and block works as well given what I think they want in a TE.

 

Yes, he has Warring going at #98, so he would be an option. I agree; he's really intriguing to me. I think I'd prefer your first 3 picks over what Brugler has as well, though I think I'd lean towards Wilkins over Burns. I also might prefer DK over both of them, but it's tough with DK for me. I think he's a great prospect, but the WR class is so deep that there's a serious opportunity cost to taking DK at #9 even if I think he has elite potential and an under-the-radar kinda high floor IMO (if his medicals check out).

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23 hours ago, Magox said:

I do not like Rashan Gary as my #9 overall pick.  He certainly has the pedigree and athleticism but the production simply isn't there.  With that said, if there is something that Beane/McD see in him and they believe they could make him into a good player, I trust their player evaluations specially on the defensive side.   I like Arcega, great production, route running ability, hands, 50/50 ability and instincts.   I question his ability to get good separation but for a third rounder, I think he'd be a solid pick.   

 

The Bills I do believe are going to look for someone with some size at the WR postion this year through the draft and he's certainly an option.

This is my issue with Gary - lack of production.

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On 4/9/2019 at 10:53 AM, DCOrange said:

Yes, he has Warring going at #98, so he would be an option. I agree; he's really intriguing to me. I think I'd prefer your first 3 picks over what Brugler has as well, though I think I'd lean towards Wilkins over Burns. I also might prefer DK over both of them, but it's tough with DK for me. I think he's a great prospect, but the WR class is so deep that there's a serious opportunity cost to taking DK at #9 even if I think he has elite potential and an under-the-radar kinda high floor IMO (if his medicals check out).

 

Warring would be the easy pick for me at 74 then, I think there is a good chance he doesn’t make it out of the 2nd though.

 

I could see them going with Wilkins over Burns, who I’m surprised isn’t getting more love in general from draftniks and I’ve even heard several critiques for adding weight and going down the Maybin path, but it’s actually the opposite with Burns. I think he has the best tool box regarding pure pass rushing skills of anyone in the draft, athleticism and techniques are both plus’s for me.

 

I agree reed with you on DK, but the medicals on him are huge, something id love to know/see, but won’t and we’ll find out at the draft, he’s got top 10 talent imo. Pre Fa I thought he was a possibility at 9, now I don’t but I could see them taking him later one way or another.

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On 4/9/2019 at 1:55 AM, John from Riverside said:

rookie

 

And Meatball did not hit the ground running in his rookie season either.

 

 

Nah, Kyle was good right from the beginning. As good as he would become? No, but very good. 54 tackles as a rookie DT and generally looked like he'd be a good player and a terrific bargain.

On 4/9/2019 at 9:18 PM, DCOrange said:

 

Some of the guys that went shortly after those first 3 picks (focusing on positions that would make at least some sense for Buffalo are):

 

#9: Devin Bush, Andre Dillard, Christian Wilkins, DK Metcalf, Brian Burns, Jonah Williams, TJ Hockenson

#40: Chris Lindstrom, Justin Layne, Dalton Risner, DeAndre Baker, Hakeem Butler, DreMont Jones

#74: Dawson Knox, Miles Sanders, Damien Harris, Nate Davis, David Montgomery, Kelvin Harmon

 

 

Good post. Thanks.

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On 4/8/2019 at 11:08 AM, NewDayBills said:

The Trayveon Williams pick was nice. Didn't care for the rest.

Well, the last of the old all-Williams team just retired, time to start a new one, this time on the offensive side of the ball.

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On 4/8/2019 at 12:48 PM, Tsaikotic said:

 

I like Harry but he doesn't seem to be making any sort of impact ... haven't gotten any kind of feel as if he could be a pass rusher... maybe they're just bringing him along slowly, not sure, but so far he seems to be JAG on the rotation.

I mean... He was a rookie backup behind a future wall of famer

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1 hour ago, dneveu said:

I mean... He was a rookie backup behind a future wall of famer

I get that...I'm not saying he had to have a DROY showing...just saying at times I forgot he was playing and right now I can't recall how much he rushed the passer...could be just me not remembering well tho..lol

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1 hour ago, Tsaikotic said:

I get that...I'm not saying he had to have a DROY showing...just saying at times I forgot he was playing and right now I can't recall how much he rushed the passer...could be just me not remembering well tho..lol

 

It's not you. He made no impact. He looked tiny and overmatched. He's not the penetrating 3 Tech people are making him out to be. He's a 1 Tech who can play some three. Right now I'd start Jordan Phillips over him at the three as he has more penetrating ability. I'm not writing off Harry, but people are putting a bit too much stock in his improvement. I think he will be a good rotational player for us, but not a dominate starter. 

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I could see this happening. Would not be happy...would not really be upset either. Just blah.

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On 4/9/2019 at 8:16 AM, SoCal Deek said:

Only because most reactions on here have been tepid at best, I’m guessing this Mock is probably the closest to what we’ll actually see in a couple of weeks. Rarely do real drafts end up with as much optimistic splash as the ones the fans prefer or predict.

And sometimes the ones that do end up with the optimistic splash turn out to be duds.

 

The fan consensus was that Lawson, Ragland, & Washington was a draft for the ages. We see how that turned out.

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On 4/8/2019 at 9:44 AM, DCOrange said:

https://theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/

 

Bills Picks:

 

Buffalo Bills
1 9 DL Rashan Gary
2 40 OT Kaleb McGary
3 74 WR J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
4 112 TE Josh Oliver
4 131 RB Trayveon Williams
5 147 CB Kris Boyd
5 158 LB Ben Burr-Kirven
6 181 DS Ugo Amadi
7 225 OG Fred Johnson
7 228 PT Mitchell Wishnowsky

There isn’t a thing I like about this draft, other than the positions selected. But I wouldn’t have drafted any single one of these guys. 

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The position I don't see addressed in the mock is the one I think is probably the highest priority to fill - 3 tech defensive tackle.  While you might plug Rashan Gary there on some obvious passing downs, I think he is a defensive end first and foremost.  The lack of a 3 tech DT is probably the biggest weakness of the mock IMO.

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On ‎4‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 7:30 AM, Jay_Fixit said:

Ben Burr-Kirven is my boy!

 

High-Motor ?

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On 4/8/2019 at 9:44 AM, DCOrange said:

https://theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/

 

Bills Picks:

 

Buffalo Bills
1 9 DL Rashan Gary
2 40 OT Kaleb McGary
3 74 WR J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
4 112 TE Josh Oliver
4 131 RB Trayveon Williams
5 147 CB Kris Boyd
5 158 LB Ben Burr-Kirven
6 181 DS Ugo Amadi
7 225 OG Fred Johnson
7 228 PT Mitchell Wishnowsky

 

Thanks, I hate it.

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i think dt and pass rusher are the 2 most important needs. i know we can't draft one of each high. i'm not sure how they do it, but if they go edge high, i can see them being able to get a quality 3 tech later. for example daniel wise. bio on nfl.com.

 

i mean he can be one of a couple dts that they could get (drafting more than one), that turn out to be really good without using a higher round pick.  comes from a family of current and past nfl players and you just can't put a value on that.

 

that being said, i think a dt can be found later versus an effective pass rusher, which way do they go? who knows...

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