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So....just a what if post

 

What if the bills draft say Jawann Taylor (OT) in the first....what if they trade down in the first....aquire a additional 2nd and take Hockinson

 

What 3 tech DT's (that could make an immediate impact) do you think would be available in the 2nd round?

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Tillery is a possibility to be there. Dremont Jones should be there. 

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If we don't take one in the 1st, would wait until the 4th or 5th rounds for someone like D. Christmas(FSU)  or Renell Wren(Arizona St.). We have other needs that I think could be better addressed in rd 2 like OL, TE and LB. JMO

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Tillery and Jones are probably the best 3 techniques who are going in the 2nd in mocks right now. Daniel Wise is a decent mid-round option.

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I don’t have access to Cover 1 archetypes but they did a big article about Tillery and how he fits the Bills prototype athletically at that position. Astro also said they scouted ND live 3x.

 

 

 

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I would take Tillery. Kid was a monster last year for the Irish. 

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Tillery and Jeffrey Simmons would be names to watch in the 2nd. 

 

Past that, I really like Khalen Saunders in the 4th

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2 minutes ago, H2o said:

I would take Tillery. Kid was a monster last year for the Irish. 

I have a feeling he could go end of 1st - what could drop him to 2nd is he recently had surgery to repair a torn labrum in his shoulder and it will set him back. Also (don’t shoot the messenger) there are concerns about how much he is focused on football because he’s “really smart and into books” (eye roll)

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Unless someone unexpected falls, I don't love the DTs that are expected to be available in the 2nd round. 

I believe they should either spend the 9th pick on a DT, or sign a veteran and draft a DT in the middle rounds and then re-assess the position next year.

 

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I'd like Tillery in the 2nd, and Wise from KU later in the draft. 

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31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have a feeling he could go end of 1st - what could drop him to 2nd is he recently had surgery to repair a torn labrum in his shoulder and it will set him back. Also (don’t shoot the messenger) there are concerns about how much he is focused on football because he’s “really smart and into books” (eye roll)

Not sure if Lawson had the same surgery but he was out for nearly 5 months.

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12 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Not sure if Lawson had the same surgery but he was out for nearly 5 months.

I think it was a similar surgery. Tillery had it last month i think. Aligns to the point they said he would be ok for TC 

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1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

So....just a what if post

 

What if the bills draft say Jawann Taylor (OT) in the first....what if they trade down in the first....aquire a additional 2nd and take Hockinson

 

What 3 tech DT's (that could make an immediate impact) do you think would be available in the 2nd round?

With the torn ACL in his preseason workout Jeffery Simmons could still be sitting there and I'd take a chance at him. 

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have a feeling he could go end of 1st - what could drop him to 2nd is he recently had surgery to repair a torn labrum in his shoulder and it will set him back. Also (don’t shoot the messenger) there are concerns about how much he is focused on football because he’s “really smart and into books” (eye roll)

Me too. I have a feeling he will be the Pats pick

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I love Simmons. I think he'll drop further than people think.

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Tillery in the 2nd after Jawaan Taylor/Dillard in the 1st is our best case scenario. I'd love this.

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1 hour ago, glazeduck said:

Tillery and Jeffrey Simmons would be names to watch in the 2nd. 

 

Past that, I really like Khalen Saunders in the 4th

 

Isn’t Simmons the one in the video beating the snot out of a woman?  If so, I’d rather draft Charles Manson.

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Isn’t Simmons the one in the video beating the snot out of a woman?  If so, I’d rather draft Charles Manson.

 

I think Manson has probably lost a step, but comes with low mileage.  It would be close. 

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t have access to Cover 1 archetypes but they did a big article about Tillery and how he fits the Bills prototype athletically at that position. Astro also said they scouted ND live 3x.

 

 

 

 

Bit of a knucklehead though

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19 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Isn’t Simmons the one in the video beating the snot out of a woman?  If so, I’d rather draft Charles Manson.

 

I’ve heard people say the woman said or did something terrible, to which I respond “Umm, so?” 

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3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

So....just a what if post

 

What if the bills draft say Jawann Taylor (OT) in the first....what if they trade down in the first....aquire a additional 2nd and take Hockinson

 

What 3 tech DT's (that could make an immediate impact) do you think would be available in the 2nd round?

 

This is what I have been saying is more likely than taking a DT at 9.  

 

IMO both Oliver and Wilkins will be on the board at 9 and Bills will not draft one of them and will either trade down or take an EDGE or help for Josh.  

 

I can see them taking Tillery in the 2nd.  The other guy to watch is Simmons.  If Simmons lasts until the later parts of round 1 or even early 2nd, I would not be surprised to see Beane move up a little to make sure he got him.  Beane loves talent and value, and who ever lands Simmons is going to get that.  

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have a feeling he could go end of 1st - what could drop him to 2nd is he recently had surgery to repair a torn labrum in his shoulder and it will set him back. Also (don’t shoot the messenger) there are concerns about how much he is focused on football because he’s “really smart and into books” (eye roll)

I have a feeling we are going to trade back into the first.  Pretty sure it will be the other way around.  We will be trading back into the first for an OL.

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I'd rather sign Suh for a year or any FA and wait until next year instead of drafting a tier 2 or 3 DL this year. Great defensive lines really help in the win column, esqecially when you don't have a great QB (which we don't). Compomrise somewhere else.

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