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8 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

From what I've read, this is not an accurate representation of what occurred.

 

Revisionist history, my ass.

 

McCain is a man who fought for our country, who was a Prisoner of War and who continued to serve his country until his death.

 

Meanwhile, Steven Smith went to Hofstra and is a software tester turned politician.

 

McCain - Hero

Smith - Zero

 

Don't forget that he caused the Forrestal fire, and sold out his fellow POWs.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

There is a reason President Trump is most unhappy with John McCain. Just because someone is dead it does not immediately turn them into a good person. John McCain was a bitter, nasty man. His being deceased does not change that.  In the weeks and months to come, we will all see how well the MSM does in suppressing his part in the soft coup attempt against President Trump. 

 

He was a big part of the Reagan Revolution, he stayed around too long after that.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

Its scary to think that people think that since someone did something noble in the past, that it means he cant do bad things after that fact. 

 

everything Trump does is condemned  by these losers

 

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7 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

Its scary to think that people think that since someone did something noble in the past, that it means he cant do bad things after that fact. 

Yeah... But the man's dead.  Have an ounce of class... Coming from OUR POTUS.

 

Joe blow in Winslow shooting the sh... in local tavern or on the internet, another story.

 

McCain can't defend himself. Low hanging fruit by Trump.

 

You see what Trump is doing right?

4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

everything Trump does is condemned  by these losers

 

Talking ill about the dead by the POTUS.  Now, that scorch earth is okay... Yet, he's the first Deplorable Snowflake© to cry the minute someone disrespects him.

 

It's easy to figure out what he's doing.

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11 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yes.  Deflecting.

 

it's fun to have the Dems have to change their stance on Vietnam as soon as the wind changes direction.

 

 

i have no trouble believing the two men truly despised each other   :D

 

 

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Just now, row_33 said:

 

it's fun to have the Dems have to change their stance on Vietnam as soon as the wind changes direction.

 

 

Their stance never changed.  Mine didn't either, even know I was a kid... My father actually dragged me to the VA in the early 1970s... I saw with my eyes... 

 

Whete the hell a Canadian comes up with this stuff is behind me!  No disrespect.

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12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Their stance never changed.  Mine didn't either, even know I was a kid... My father actually dragged me to the VA in the early 1970s... I saw with my eyes... 

 

Whete the hell a Canadian comes up with this stuff is behind me!  No disrespect.

 

Their stance was all over the map from spitting on returning veterans and blowing up government and research labs to whining they didn't bomb the ***** out of the country.

 

It was kind of a big issue growing up in the 1970s, hard to avoid if one paid any attention to the news.

 

American exceptionalism in your eyes means nobody was allowed to have an opinion on Nam, get over yourself, I know you can....

 

 

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2 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Their stance was all over the map from spitting on returning veterans and blowing up government and research labs to whining they didn't bomb the ***** out of the country.

 

It was kind of a big issue growing up in the 1970s, hard to avoid if one paid any attention to the news.

 

American exceptionalism in your eyes means nobody was allowed to have an opinion on Nam, get over yourself, I know you can....

 

 

You can have your opinion on Vietnam. 

 

As POTUS... Set the national dialog and tone.  Don't troll the country.

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12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

You can have your opinion on Vietnam. 

 

As POTUS... Set the national dialog and tone.  Don't troll the country.

 

thanks, I try to balance conservative economic and foreign policy with common decency for individuals, helps to be a Canadian

 

yup, Trump should be more classy, oh well, Sinatra liked to talk about class as well... both icons...

 

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Don't forget that he caused the Forrestal fire, and sold out his fellow POWs.

 

It's as if the Keating Five never existed, either

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6 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

thanks, I try to balance conservative economic and foreign policy with common decency for individuals, helps to be a Canadian

 

yup, Trump should be more classy, oh well, Sinatra liked to talk about class as well... both icons...

 

 

 

 

That's all I am saying too.

 

 

Oh... And show us your bone spurs. J/K....But that's coming from ME.  ?

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The Democratic Party by nature is open to encouraging dialogue from all conceivable angles, which to me is a good thing, but you have to cut and run in order to get anything done. We saw it in full display over Nam and are seeing it to a smaller extent on the environment and health care today.

 

The GOP's base is more concerned with taking care of kith and kin and not open to endless dialogue going nowhere and heading towards violence. If they are interested they are part of a think tank.

 

 

11 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

POTUS vs entertainer: You better hope the gang comes to your rescue soon. 

 

both the same to me, i'm happy.

 

 

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I miss the days when we had 15 pages here when you all were debating about RBG being dead and the conspiracy to hide it. I couldn't find it quickly but I particularly enjoyed the funeral photos you guys posted. Attacking McCain is such a let down. It's a much lamer conspiracy. 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

That's all I am saying too.

 

 

Oh... And show us your bone spurs. J/K....But that's coming from ME.  ?

 

i got the benefit of excellent coaches who got on a bus and never returned to their home town for decades.... 

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7 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

I miss the days when we had 15 pages here when you all were debating about RBG being dead and the conspiracy to hide it. I couldn't find it quickly but I particularly enjoyed the funeral photos you guys posted. Attacking McCain is such a let down. It's a much lamer conspiracy. 

 

 

 

She is dead.  It's her clone on the bench.

 

If you're going to criticize our conspiracy theories, at leas get them right.

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48 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Don't forget that he caused the Forrestal fire, and sold out his fellow POWs.

 

20 minutes ago, GG said:

 

It's as if the Keating Five never existed, either

Did we ever get to the bottom of why he stonewalled the Viet Nam MIA group's efforts to find more dead and MIAs?

He absolutely put the kibosh on further efforts. 

Graduated at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy.

Would never have gotten in except he was a legacy - father AND grandfather were Admirals in the Pacific fleet.

Crashed more planes than any other classmate.

Had the records sealed for 50 years that expose his duplicity in assisting the North Vietnamese. 

 

He detested Trump and would never forgive him for actually becoming POTUS - which is something that loser couldn't do.

He was active in trying to subvert Trump's Presidency and there is absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

 

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3 minutes ago, Nanker said:

 

Did we ever get to the bottom of why he stonewalled the Viet Nam MIA group's efforts to find more dead and MIAs?

He absolutely put the kibosh on further efforts. 

Graduated at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy.

Would never have gotten in except he was a legacy - father AND grandfather were Admirals in the Pacific fleet.

Crashed more planes than any other classmate.

Had the records sealed for 50 years that expose his duplicity in assisting the North Vietnamese. 

 

He detested Trump and would never forgive him for actually becoming POTUS - which is something that loser couldn't do.

He was active in trying to subvert Trump's Presidency and there is absolutely no excuse for that whatsoever.

 

 

There we go. We've been waiting for the attackers to come. Now we will get the conspiracy stuff going and the billsChan choir will be in full harmony. 

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Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

You are the one who ALWAYS tells me to post crap in the PPP  

 

Now you want to B word about it?  

 

You are such a FRAUD 

 

Arent you 60 ?    I just want you to use your brain.      We have enough CNN parrots.    

 

Tone down the histrionics kitty hat.  Sounds like your blood sugar is rising 

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Just now, Teddy KGB said:

 

Arent you 60 ?    I just want you to use your brain.      We have enough CNN parrots.    

 

Tone down the histrionics kitty hat.  Sounds like your blood sugar is rising 

Age matters?   Your idol FAT Donald Trump is 72 

 

Tag me again me when you come down off of your high. 

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10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Age matters?   Your idol FAT Donald Trump is 72 

 

Tag me again me when you come down off of your high. 

 

He’s not my idol.     I love laughing my ass off at people like you who are outraged because Jim Acosta told them to be. 

 

How boring is the follower life ? 

 

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10 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

There we go. We've been waiting for the attackers to come. Now we will get the conspiracy stuff going and the billsChan choir will be in full harmony. 

What if anything that I posted do you refute?

And I'm an attacker. 

 

Just stating facts. McCain was ***** in his personal life. He too cheated on his wife and was only interested in attacking the "Special Interests" groups that didn't support HIM.

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12 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

There we go. We've been waiting for the attackers to come. Now we will get the conspiracy stuff going and the billsChan choir will be in full harmony. 

 

A right-wing conspiracy of left-wing talking points.  :lol:

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22 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

He’s not my idol.     I love laughing my ass off at people like you who are outraged because Jim Acosta told them to be. 

 

How boring is the follower life ? 

 

Kitty KGB!  As if anyone needs Acosta to tell them that Trump is a despicable douche!  Trump's own words are plenty. 

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2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

It's okay... Trump supporters are immoral, lack a moral compass.  They will eat this sh... up.

 

Trump's making TheSwamp® look like the Sahara Desert.  Be careful what you wish for, the road to perdition is paved with good intentions... Even know they were blatantly evil to begin with.

 

Just let the dead rest in peace.  This just shows how deplorable people really are.

 

[I was not a McCain supporter and realised he was part of the problem]

 

Anyway... You would think that the country could use a modicum of decorum by it's leader.  Yet, Trump continues to run scortch earth to rile up his immoral and hypocritical Christian base for election purposes.  Yeah... Trump ain't a demagogue!  LoL...

Yes.  It's fine for you to say it.  But coming from a leader, who should be fit to leader... There should be a modicum of decorum. It's called: Being a professional.

 

Just saying.  I almost wonder if the man has early dementia.  ???  Age and his actions would raise red flags.

I've never wondered that about you.

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No-Name isn't worth defending, if the true depth of his evil were ever revealed to the world at large, everyone posting laudatory things about the man would feel deep shame. 

 

1) He committed sedition. 

2) He committed treason. 

3) He serves masters that are not US based. 

4) He profited directly (for decades) off human trafficking across the Arizona border.

5) He gave aid, comfort, and arms to ISIS, AQ, and other enemies of this nation.

 

And that's just what he did while in public office. 

 

The media pundits and politicians on the Hill tripping over themselves to defend No-Name's memory are the same ones who couldn't wait to point out his faults (when they served the greater purpose of elevating 44 over the fray) - note the supporting video comments have been scrubbed on many of these:

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/08/schumer-hit-mccain-harder-012375

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/10/why-mccain-is-getting-hosed-in-the-press-014982

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94640700

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/10/study-mccain-coverage-mostly-negative-014829

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/us/politics/26ads.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=E74528E6D5EB3B261615C1BAF3E5A221&gwt=pay

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/13/campaign.wrap/index.html

 

Of course, that was just good ol' uniparty campaigning. The truth is, No Name wasn't a renegade or maverick. He was uniparty from the start, and the media loved him for it - and in turn No-Name was one of the biggest star fukkers on the planet while he was here:

 

https://fair.org/extra/the-press-corps8217-unshakeable-crush-on-mccain/

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/15/us/politics/15text-biden.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=24B3C793E2828E3FC410E0D2621D45AC&gwt=pay

 

Then there's his horrific foreign policy blunders, undertaken for his own gain - as in Libya where he met with the LIFG prior to them going on to slaughter not only Gaddafi, but scores of civilians, eventually opening up the world's first open air slave market in modern time. 

 

This also helped spark the scourge of refugees from Libya into Europe, destabilizing the continent - for his own gain

https://www.cnn.com/specials/africa/libya-slave-auctions

 

 

Then there's his frequent dabbles in aiding and abetting our nation's enemies: 

Photo-1-1.jpg

 

Here's No-Name meeting with the FSA (soon to become ISIS leaders) in 2013 - after he took an illegal trip into Syria to meet secretly with the future leaders of ISIS. He promised them arms, funding, and logistical support - and supplied them. Not just to fight Asad, but to wage war against civilians across Europe and the ME. 

 

In 2013, No-Name worked openly with actual Nazis in the Ukraine: 

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-meets-oleh-tyahnybok-in-ukraine-2013-12

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https://consortiumnews.com/2018/08/27/the-other-side-of-john-mccain/

 

Ah - that brings us to the Ukraine. Where Mr. No-Name actively worked with Nazis and Russians in an attempt to overturn the election of 2016. David Krammer and No-Name worked to bring what he knew to be bogus information to the FBI and the press in order to influence, and then overturn, an American election. No-Name actively conspired with foreign intelligence services to do so. 

 

... That's what people have accused Trump of doing for the past two years (without evidence), yet here's No-Name doing it (with mountains of evidence to prove it happened) and he gets a pass. More than a pass, he got a state funeral and a send off. 

 

But all of that, all of the above you might be able to write off as a good man with bad political ideas. That's what you see being spun in the press. He was a patriot, even if his ideas weren't for us. You can buy that line so long as you don't look into the McCain Institute and No-Name's direct involvement with human trafficking. 

 

https://www.mccaininstitute.org/human-trafficking-mission/

 

Like all duplicitous assbags, No-Name's institute claims to be on the front lines of combating human trafficking when in reality they were directly profiting from it and working to enable it. Using faces like Ashton Kutcher to put a public face on the scheme (look into Ashton's record and connections - and then ask why him of all people would be put out as the face to stop human trafficking). No Name wasn't just a bad man. He was an evil man who should never be called a patriot. He's the WORST kind of offender, the kind that says nice things in public then in private does everything he can to undercut the country, the people, and stability. 

 

His legacy will be ash in the coming years. 

 

Ash.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

No-Name isn't worth defending, if the true depth of his evil were ever revealed to the world at large, everyone posting laudatory things about the man would feel deep shame. 

 

1) He committed sedition. 

2) He committed treason. 

3) He serves masters that are not US based. 

4) He profited directly (for decades) off human trafficking across the Arizona border.

5) He gave aid, comfort, and arms to ISIS, AQ, and other enemies of this nation.

 

And that's just what he did while in public office. 

 

The media pundits and politicians on the Hill tripping over themselves to defend No-Name's memory are the same ones who couldn't wait to point out his faults (when they served the greater purpose of elevating 44 over the fray) - note the supporting video comments have been scrubbed on many of these:

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/08/schumer-hit-mccain-harder-012375

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/10/why-mccain-is-getting-hosed-in-the-press-014982

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94640700

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/10/study-mccain-coverage-mostly-negative-014829

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/us/politics/26ads.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=E74528E6D5EB3B261615C1BAF3E5A221&gwt=pay

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/13/campaign.wrap/index.html

 

Of course, that was just good ol' uniparty campaigning. The truth is, No Name wasn't a renegade or maverick. He was uniparty from the start, and the media loved him for it - and in turn No-Name was one of the biggest star fukkers on the planet while he was here:

 

https://fair.org/extra/the-press-corps8217-unshakeable-crush-on-mccain/

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/15/us/politics/15text-biden.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=24B3C793E2828E3FC410E0D2621D45AC&gwt=pay

 

Then there's his horrific foreign policy blunders, undertaken for his own gain - as in Libya where he met with the LIFG prior to them going on to slaughter not only Gaddafi, but scores of civilians, eventually opening up the world's first open air slave market in modern time. 

 

This also helped spark the scourge of refugees from Libya into Europe, destabilizing the continent - for his own gain

https://www.cnn.com/specials/africa/libya-slave-auctions

 

 

Then there's his frequent dabbles in aiding and abetting our nation's enemies: 

Photo-1-1.jpg

 

Here's No-Name meeting with the FSA (soon to become ISIS leaders) in 2013 - after he took an illegal trip into Syria to meet secretly with the future leaders of ISIS. He promised them arms, funding, and logistical support - and supplied them. Not just to fight Asad, but to wage war against civilians across Europe and the ME. 

 

In 2013, No-Name worked openly with actual Nazis in the Ukraine: 

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-meets-oleh-tyahnybok-in-ukraine-2013-12

Photo-3.jpg

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/08/27/the-other-side-of-john-mccain/

 

Ah - that brings us to the Ukraine. Where Mr. No-Name actively worked with Nazis and Russians in an attempt to overturn the election of 2016. David Krammer and No-Name worked to bring what he knew to be bogus information to the FBI and the press in order to influence, and then overturn, an American election. No-Name actively conspired with foreign intelligence services to do so. 

 

... That's what people have accused Trump of doing for the past two years (without evidence), yet here's No-Name doing it (with mountains of evidence to prove it happened) and he gets a pass. More than a pass, he got a state funeral and a send off. 

 

But all of that, all of the above you might be able to write off as a good man with bad political ideas. That's what you see being spun in the press. He was a patriot, even if his ideas weren't for us. You can buy that line so long as you don't look into the McCain Institute and No-Name's direct involvement with human trafficking. 

 

https://www.mccaininstitute.org/human-trafficking-mission/

 

Like all duplicitous assbags, No-Name's institute claims to be on the front lines of combating human trafficking when in reality they were directly profiting from it and working to enable it. Using faces like Ashton Kutcher to put a public face on the scheme (look into Ashton's record and connections - and then ask why him of all people would be put out as the face to stop human trafficking). No Name wasn't just a bad man. He was an evil man who should never be called a patriot. He's the WORST kind of offender, the kind that says nice things in public then in private does everything he can to undercut the country, the people, and stability. 

 

His legacy will be ash in the coming years. 

 

Ash.

You love Trump so much you will post all this just to discredit a guy he does not like. 

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1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah... But the man's dead.  Have an ounce of class... Coming from OUR POTUS.

 

Joe blow in Winslow shooting the sh... in local tavern or on the internet, another story.

 

McCain can't defend himself. Low hanging fruit by Trump.

 

You see what Trump is doing right?

Talking ill about the dead by the POTUS.  Now, that scorch earth is okay... Yet, he's the first Deplorable Snowflake© to cry the minute someone disrespects him.

 

It's easy to figure out what he's doing.

Have an ounce of class???

Coming from you?? 

That's the funniest shitt I heard all day!!!!

??????

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