Kelly the Dog Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 1:07 PM, Magnum Force said: Oprah or Ogbah who has better trade value? Oprah has excelled at most everything she has ever put her mind to. I wouldn't count her out. She has the size you look for, and a high motor. If a little long in the tooth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, T master said: Why not just wait until he's cut if he's the odd man out, why trade & waste draft capital ?? Doubtful the Browns just cut him. The alternative is using him in the DE rotation and netting a comp pick when he’s signed by another team the following year. The Browns want to use him to acquire a player at a position of need or move up in the draft. What about a flip of 2nds? 49 and Ogbah for 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Sadly BillsFanatics (or whatever their name was) is SUPER unreliable, IB level. They are known for making bold claims that don't actually happen. Fingers crossed though! I’m not crazy about Ogbah so not really hoping they are right. I do want to acquire an edge rusher somehow, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 9:05 AM, billsbackto81 said: Has he lived up to expectations? I remember him being highly touted during his draft. No he hasn't lived up to all the "Nigerian Nightmare" hype. We can get identical production (4-5 sacks) from Shaq. Rather have a healthy Ziggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 BF is suuuper unreliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Is he better at pass rushing than Shaq Lawson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 6 hours ago, MJS said: Is he better at pass rushing than Shaq Lawson? In my opinion, no not really. He has 12.5 sacks where Shaq has 10. Ogbah has played a whole hell of a lot more than Shaq in terms of snap counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: In my opinion, no not really. He has 12.5 sacks where Shaq has 10. Ogbah has played a whole hell of a lot more than Shaq in terms of snap counts. Then I see zero point in bringing him in. We don't need defensive end depth, we need a high end pass rusher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Oprah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) I'm in. It's not like he's been non existent. 7 sacks in 2 years in somewhat limited action. He was drafted in RD 2 2 years ago and hasn't been a "bust" per se. 25 years old a solid athlete. Why NOT? Edited March 27, 2019 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Love Jordan Poyer, but I'm not at the point yet where I look forward to ex-Browns coming here, sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I think Frank Clark will be a Bill by the end of the draft. Seattle has to pay Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner who will both get mega deals. Makes sense for them to flip Clark for a cheaper draft pick in a draft heavy on elite pass rushers. Bills have the cap space plus Hughes and Lawson are free agents next year. Swap of 1sts and Seattle takes Sweat/Gary/Burns at 9. Bills take BPA Wilkins/Simmons/Metcalf/Hockenson/Fant/Jonah/Taylor/Dillard/Ford at 21. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 He's no better than what we already have. I see no reason to give anything up just to stay even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think Frank Clark will be a Bill by the end of the draft. Seattle has to pay Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner who will both get mega deals. Makes sense for them to flip Clark for a cheaper draft pick in a draft heavy on elite pass rushers. Bills have the cap space plus Hughes and Lawson are free agents next year. Swap of 1sts and Seattle takes Sweat/Gary/Burns at 9. Bills take BPA Wilkins/Simmons/Metcalf/Hockenson/Fant/Jonah/Taylor/Dillard/Ford at 21. Good idea, but I don't see it happening. Seattle is slated to have over $80M in cap room next season, so they should easily be able to fit all of Wagner/Wilson/Clark under their cap...also, a Clark trade would leave them with zero players from the 2019 starting DL under contract for 2020. I'd like to be wrong about that, but I have my doubts. Plus, I don't see McDermott signing up for this: https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2014/11/17/frank-clark-michigan-football/19157491/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think Frank Clark will be a Bill by the end of the draft. Seattle has to pay Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner who will both get mega deals. Makes sense for them to flip Clark for a cheaper draft pick in a draft heavy on elite pass rushers. Bills have the cap space plus Hughes and Lawson are free agents next year. Swap of 1sts and Seattle takes Sweat/Gary/Burns at 9. Bills take BPA Wilkins/Simmons/Metcalf/Hockenson/Fant/Jonah/Taylor/Dillard/Ford at 21. Much like the Tyrod-Cleveland match that I discussed for months leading up to the actual trade, I feel like this equally makes sense for all the reasons you outlined. Then again, I felt the same way about a Buffalo-Cam Brate trade but it doesn't seem like that one is going to happen either. Edited March 27, 2019 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think Frank Clark will be a Bill by the end of the draft. Seattle has to pay Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner who will both get mega deals. Makes sense for them to flip Clark for a cheaper draft pick in a draft heavy on elite pass rushers. Bills have the cap space plus Hughes and Lawson are free agents next year. Swap of 1sts and Seattle takes Sweat/Gary/Burns at 9. Bills take BPA Wilkins/Simmons/Metcalf/Hockenson/Fant/Jonah/Taylor/Dillard/Ford at 21. I sure hope you're right. Neith Clark nor Hughes is an all-pro, but they're both very good. Add a guy like Wilkins, Oliver, McCoy or Suh and we'd have a DL as good as anyone. It wouldn't be as good as that DL we had a few years back with Mario, Hughes, Kyle and Dareus (before he hit the snooze button) but it would still be really good. A DL like that could really make a difference in the W/L column. We could bring heat without a lot of blitzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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