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2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Yes it has all over the place here is just one

 

That trade was all but done until Buffalo heard Antonio was going to have an issue coming to Buffalo

 

Yeah, I've read them all. Reporters basically saying "I've been told" AB wouldn't go there. Just wondered if there was any report from AB/ his agent to verify. I actually read that the deal died Wednesday and that this was old news stirred up by Rap

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Just now, thebandit27 said:

Looks like he's a goner either way:

 

Well when a trade report is on you at this point in the offseason it means 1 of  3 things

 

1.  They want you to take a paycut

2.  You will be traded

3. You will be cut if not traded normally the same day the report you are being shopped happens

Just now, BuffAlone said:

Yeah, I've read them all. Reporters basically saying "I've been told" AB wouldn't go there. Just wondered if there was any report from AB/ his agent to verify. I actually read that the deal died Wednesday and that this was old news stirred up by Rap

Sure maybe AB reporting the trade talk as fake news?

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Just now, MAJBobby said:

Well when a trade report is on you at this point in the offseason it means 1 of  3 things

 

1.  They want you to take a paycut

2.  You will be traded

3. You will be cut if not traded normally the same day the report you are being shopped happens

 

 

Gee, ya think?

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Just now, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Surely we can find something in the Carolina ‘discount / previously enjoyed’ bin?!

 

(ducks, runs out of thread in fear for my life...)

Daryl Williams currently resides in that bin. I’d go shopping there.

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Well when a trade report is on you at this point in the offseason it means 1 of  3 things

 

1.  They want you to take a paycut

2.  You will be traded

3. You will be cut if not traded normally the same day the report you are being shopped happens

Sure maybe AB reporting the trade talk as fake news?

He don't dictate where he goes. He either takes his trade or retires. Not saying his unwillingness didn't equate to Beane's decision that the deal didn't make sense for them, just wondered if there's a report from his agent that verified that. Reporting fake news does not = I told them hell no

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1 minute ago, BuffAlone said:

He don't dictate where he goes. He either takes his trade or retires. Not saying his unwillingness didn't equate to Beane's decision that the deal didn't make sense for them, just wondered if there's a report from his agent that verified that. Reporting fake news does not = I told them hell no

 

He just did dictate he wasn't going to the place WRs go to die

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49 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Nah I have always hated the Steelers line in Recent Years.  Ben gets Killed behind it

this couldn't be more false.... ben has been sacked a grand total of 45 times over the last 2 seasons. 27 other qb's were sacked more than him in 17 and 25 other qb's were sacked more than him this last year. not to mention they have basically plugged any back they want into the lineup and gotten production.

 

I live in "stiller" country. I can assure you all their fans agree it is one of their strongest assets. its the main reason his career has been prolonged after the absolute beating he took early on in his career.... your statement is horribly off base.

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31 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

He don't dictate where he goes. He either takes his trade or retires. Not saying his unwillingness didn't equate to Beane's decision that the deal didn't make sense for them, just wondered if there's a report from his agent that verified that. Reporting fake news does not = I told them hell no

 

Sorry, man, it happens.  The Steelers were paying AB a crap ton of money and that didn’t stop him from bailing on the last game of the season with playoffs on the line.  It didn’t stop him from trashing his QB either.  No team wants to give up substantial draft capital and invest big time money into a player unless they can expect effort and reasonably good behavior.

 

IMO the Bills did the right thing bailing on the deal upon hearing AB didn’t want to come here.  But they did the wrong thing by even investigating bringing a spoiled brat like him onto this team.  Other than being a phenomenal player in the field (when he chooses to actually play) he’s exactly the opposite of what this regime has said they were about.

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7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

their running game does well behind it (Bell, Connor).   Ben holds onto the ball too long. 

 

Or does their Run game do so well behind them because people are scared of what they have on the outside?

 

 

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13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Or does their Run game do so well behind them because people are scared of what they have on the outside?

 

 

 

Fortunately, we don't have to speculate on this, since NextGenStats keeps track of everything you two are discussing.

 

First, no, Ben does not hold the ball long:

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw

^ Tied for the fastest average snap-to-release time in football last year

 

Second, no, teams aren't backing away from the run against Pittsburgh, as James Conner faced 8+ in the box on almost 28% of his carries, which ranked 11th out of all qualifying backs in 2018:

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/rushing#percent-eight-defenders

 

 

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