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Court filing seeks Kraft's presence at arraignment

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26168448/court-filing-seeks-kraft-presence-arraignment

 

Robert Kraft has been ordered to attend an arraignment hearing related to his misdemeanor charges of solicitation, according to court documents, though his lawyer could still seek to allow the New England Patriots owner to not appear.

 

Though the court order says Kraft "must be present" or face a bond forfeiture and a warrant for his arrest, the rules of criminal procedure allow Kraft's lawyer to waive his presence at the arraignment.

 

The hearing has also been moved back a day to March 28. The arraignment was initially set for April before being rescheduled to March last week.

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On 2/22/2019 at 11:52 AM, YoloinOhio said:

Yup

 

Not one single person has been charged with anything to do with human trafficking. There were also no under aged girls. This is according to the Jupiter Sheriff's Department. Just a 77 year old widower getting a handie... We should all be so lucky at that age!

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2 minutes ago, ricko1112 said:

Not one single person has been charged with anything to do with human trafficking. There were also no under aged girls. This is according to the Jupiter Sheriff's Department. Just a 77 year old widower getting a handie... We should all be so lucky at that age!

 

I'm not sure a multi-millionaire getting a ***** at the massage equivalent of a Yingaling's All-You-Can-Eat 99-Cent Sushi House and Watch Repair Emporium is what I'd consider 'lucky,' I don't care how old you are.

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4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

(Clickbait)

 

If you read the article you'll see the woman sold the spa years ago. 

 

But fake news gonna fake news. :beer: 

 

Fake news outlets gotta fake news. 

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7 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

I'm not sure a multi-millionaire getting a ***** at the massage equivalent of a Yingaling's All-You-Can-Eat 99-Cent Sushi House and Watch Repair Emporium is what I'd consider 'lucky,' I don't care how old you are.

Yuck! You'd think $6.6 billion could have gotten him so much more...

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23 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Court filing seeks Kraft's presence at arraignment

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26168448/court-filing-seeks-kraft-presence-arraignment

 

Robert Kraft has been ordered to attend an arraignment hearing related to his misdemeanor charges of solicitation, according to court documents, though his lawyer could still seek to allow the New England Patriots owner to not appear.

 

Though the court order says Kraft "must be present" or face a bond forfeiture and a warrant for his arrest, the rules of criminal procedure allow Kraft's lawyer to waive his presence at the arraignment.

 

The hearing has also been moved back a day to March 28. The arraignment was initially set for April before being rescheduled to March last week.

Wait, some legal experts here said that if Kraft stayed out of Florida, he would be untouchable...maybe Massachusetts and Florida have an extradition treaty?

8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

(Clickbait)

 

If you read the article you'll see the woman sold the spa years ago. 

 

But fake news gonna fake news. :beer: 

You’d also would have read that it was widely considered to be a house of ill-repute before she sold it

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7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

(Clickbait)

 

If you read the article you'll see the woman sold the spa years ago. 

 

But fake news gonna fake news. :beer: 

Um, that's a charitable reading, and your interpretation is skewed (perhaps for ideological reasons?). Her family members still own some of them, and her own strategy evolved into flipping them. Regardless, she built her fortune on them. Also, how is it "fake news" (god, what a dumb meme)? She was indeed the founder, which is exactly what the tweet says. 

 

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34 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Um, that's a charitable reading, and your interpretation is skewed (perhaps for ideological reasons?). Her family members still own some of them, and her own strategy evolved into flipping them. Regardless, she built her fortune on them. Also, how is it "fake news" (god, what a dumb meme)? She was indeed the founder, which is exactly what the tweet says. 

 

 

What's the worse spin of the facts - that she and her family still own some of the spas in the chain or that Trump is tied to the particular spa that was involved in this case?

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2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

What's the worse spin of the facts - that she and her family still own some of the spas in the chain or that Trump is tied to the particular spa that was involved in this case?

I'll refrain from responding to prevent this thread from being booted over to PPP, which I don't ever go to.

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52 minutes ago, mannc said:

You’d also would have read that it was widely considered to be a house of ill-repute before she sold it

 

With no charges, arrests, or incidents reported to LE while she owned it... which was almost a decade ago.

 

That's the "fake" part of it. Throw the rumors and salacious gossip all around the article, enough to make people forget she has no ownership stake in the Kraft spa (the one facing legal peril), frame it with a picture of Trump and presto: you got a story with very little fact and tons of innuendo that will corrupt and pollute the discourse on this subject for days to come. 

 

48 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Um, that's a charitable reading, and your interpretation is skewed (perhaps for ideological reasons?). Her family members still own some of them, and her own strategy evolved into flipping them. Regardless, she built her fortune on them. Also, how is it "fake news" (god, what a dumb meme)? She was indeed the founder, which is exactly what the tweet says. 

 

 

Disagree. 

 

The woman no longer owns the spa where Kraft was arrested, in fact she wasn't even the last owner (it's sold again since she sold it). She didn't hire any of the employees there now, she didn't consult with the current owners about how to run the business. She was entirely removed from the events there - but, hey, she's at a political event at Mara Largo and we have art with her and POTUS. NOW we got a story... if we frame it dishonestly and smear it with enough salacious details and information that will cause readers to miss the forest through the trees.  How do you accomplish that? I know! Call her the "founder" in the headline knowing most readers only read the headline and it sounds like she's still involved with the business.

 

She isn't, and hasn't been for years. 

 

Thus fake news. (Which I disagree is a terrible meme, it's very apt). 

 

Lastly, my ideological preferences have nothing to do with pointing out this bogus spin. I'm not a Trump voter, nor a republican or conservative. I just have an issue with dishonesty. :beer: 

 

(for clarity, I'm not calling you or Yolo or Mannc dishonest in any way for disagreeing - was speaking of the story itself)

 

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5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I'll refrain from responding to prevent this thread from being booted over to PPP, which I don't ever go to.

 

Ha -- I thought I was the only "regular" to never venture over there!

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51 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Um, that's a charitable reading, and your interpretation is skewed (perhaps for ideological reasons?). Her family members still own some of them, and her own strategy evolved into flipping them. Regardless, she built her fortune on them. Also, how is it "fake news" (god, what a dumb meme)? She was indeed the founder, which is exactly what the tweet says. 

 

 

Don't let facts stop an irrational ranter.  He is defending Kraft like a zebra with a pocketful of unmarked, nonsequential large bills.

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4 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Don't let facts stop an irrational ranter.  He is defending Kraft like a zebra with a pocketful of unmarked, nonsequential large bills.

(I think this was just for the line - which was funny but in case it wasn't)

I am? 

 

I didn't mention Kraft once.

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8 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Ha -- I thought I was the only "regular" to never venture over there!

 

13 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I'll refrain from responding to prevent this thread from being booted over to PPP, which I don't ever go to.

 

I never go near the Echo Chamber.

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