Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Bills2ref said: Are there actually people crazy enough to think it’s an NFL competitor? Well, maybe. What I was referring to is the idea that this league or the XFL (past or future) are or even can be some sort of "minor league" for the NFL.....as if the NCAA does not exist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Well, maybe. What I was referring to is the idea that this league or the XFL (past or future) are or even can be some sort of "minor league" for the NFL.....as if the NCAA does not exist! The hope is that players can forego the NCAA and start getting paid right away in these leagues. If that can't happen, then there's not much potential. I don't know what the blockers are. Seems to work for the MLB and NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 OT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Well that was fun! 4 downs, see who can score a touchdown (and 2 points if the team with the ball first does score). There can be a tie. Memphis did score, so someone won by 6 (they were the second team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Awesome game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 9 hours ago, LeGOATski said: The hope is that players can forego the NCAA and start getting paid right away in these leagues. If that can't happen, then there's not much potential. I don't know what the blockers are. Seems to work for the MLB and NBA. The guys who can't make it in the NFL can probably go to one of these leagues or Arena. The NBA? They get their roster from the NCAA too. The D league tosses a few players a year, but it's insignificant. Neither is anything like MLB. Not even comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The guys who can't make it in the NFL can probably go to one of these leagues or Arena. The NBA? They get their roster from the NCAA too. The D league tosses a few players a year, but it's insignificant. Neither is anything like MLB. Not even comparable. I think high school players could be developed in this league and get paid for it, rather than go to the NCAA and get exploited for 2-4 years. If that could happen, we'd see a lot of top high school recruits foregoing college. I'd be disappointed if it wasn't in their plans to try that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: I think high school players could be developed in this league and get paid for it, rather than go to the NCAA and get exploited for 2-4 years. If that could happen, we'd see a lot of top high school recruits foregoing college. I'd be disappointed if it wasn't in their plans to try that out. interesting idea, turn the AAF into the football equivalent of the OHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPL7 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I wonder if any AAF guys will find their way to training camp with the Bills? Any guys you all would prefer? I would like to see Karter Schult and Kenneth Farrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, JPL7 said: I wonder if any AAF guys will find their way to training camp with the Bills? Any guys you all would prefer? I would like to see Karter Schult and Kenneth Farrow. I'll bet a few dozen AAF players will get camp invites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 This seems like perfectly reasonable and simple OT rules for the NFL regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: I think high school players could be developed in this league and get paid for it, rather than go to the NCAA and get exploited for 2-4 years. If that could happen, we'd see a lot of top high school recruits foregoing college. I'd be disappointed if it wasn't in their plans to try that out. 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: interesting idea, turn the AAF into the football equivalent of the OHL Be disappointed....The AAF has the same eligibility rules as the NFL--no players less than 3 years out of high school. Top HS recruits just are not going to bypass top NCAA programs for what is not even a D league. It's always a bit of a chuckle for fans at home to decide that NCAA players are (suddenly?) being exploited. They would just laugh at us to our faces if we approached them with this bit of self-righteous nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Be disappointed....The AAF has the same eligibility rules as the NFL--no players less than 3 years out of high school. Top HS recruits just are not going to bypass top NCAA programs for what is not even a D league. It's always a bit of a chuckle for fans at home to decide that NCAA players are (suddenly?) being exploited. They would just laugh at us to our faces if we approached them with this bit of self-righteous nonsense. I'm saying I hope they would plan on becoming a D league. If a player could go into a developmental league for a 6 figure contract and be eligible for the NFL draft or a pro contract after a few years, so many would opt to go that route instead of going to college. So many. The staying potential of this league would skyrocket, if that could happen. If it's just going to be a minor league for NFL wash-outs, then there's little potential. If they could somehow get backups/practice squad players in there, then there'd be some potential. That seems unlikely to me. You seem to be in agreement, but just in the typical WEO tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I'm saying I hope they would plan on becoming a D league. If a player could go into a developmental league for a 6 figure contract and be eligible for the NFL draft or a pro contract after a few years, so many would opt to go that route instead of going to college. So many. The staying potential of this league would skyrocket, if that could happen. If it's just going to be a minor league for NFL wash-outs, then there's little potential. If they could somehow get backups/practice squad players in there, then there'd be some potential. That seems unlikely to me. You seem to be in agreement, but just in the typical WEO tone. So many? These guys all think they are going to be drafted after a successful career in the NCAA. No 4 or 5 star recruit will take that 250k. It doesn't matter anyway, as I said, HS grads can't play in the AAF. Their only option out of HS is the NCAA or getting a real job. It's about fact, not "tone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: So many? These guys all think they are going to be drafted after a successful career in the NCAA. No 4 or 5 star recruit will take that 250k. It doesn't matter anyway, as I said, HS grads can't play in the AAF. Their only option out of HS is the NCAA or getting a real job. It's about fact, not "tone". They'd get drafted/the big NFL contract after playing in the D league a few years, just like they would coming out of college. Get paid, then drafted or play for free, then drafted. We all know most 4 or 5 star recruits will want to get paid sooner than later. What if they don't pan out in college or get a bad injury and don't even get drafted?... It would be an easy decision if the league could actually offer this. I've been talking hypotheticals this whole time. You're just your typical argumentative self. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 hours ago, LeGOATski said: They'd get drafted/the big NFL contract after playing in the D league a few years, just like they would coming out of college. Get paid, then drafted or play for free, then drafted. We all know most 4 or 5 star recruits will want to get paid sooner than later. What if they don't pan out in college or get a bad injury and don't even get drafted?... It would be an easy decision if the league could actually offer this. I've been talking hypotheticals this whole time. You're just your typical argumentative self. I'm really not. Being "hypothetical" doesn't make it more logical. The leagues aren't taking 18 year olds. Even if they did, top recruited 18 year olds are going to take their chances in the NCAA for the NFL. When they fail, they will seek these other leagues. The leagues are for guys who can't make it or to the NFL. More than half the 5 star recruits are drafted into the NFL. Less than 10% (I'm being very generous with this "hypothetical") AAF'ers, I'd guess, will make it onto an NFL roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 9 hours ago, LeGOATski said: They'd get drafted/the big NFL contract after playing in the D league a few years, just like they would coming out of college. Get paid, then drafted or play for free, then drafted. We all know most 4 or 5 star recruits will want to get paid sooner than later. What if they don't pan out in college or get a bad injury and don't even get drafted?... It would be an easy decision if the league could actually offer this. I've been talking hypotheticals this whole time. You're just your typical argumentative self. Like I said earlier, the AAF stole WEO’s lunch money ? he has a personal vendetta. In the words of Eminem “I have been sent here to destroy you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 55 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: Like I said earlier, the AAF stole WEO’s lunch money ? he has a personal vendetta. In the words of Eminem “I have been sent here to destroy you” It's nothing personal. It's just how WEO rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Bills2ref said: Like I said earlier, the AAF stole WEO’s lunch money ? he has a personal vendetta. In the words of Eminem “I have been sent here to destroy you” 8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: It's nothing personal. It's just how WEO rolls. Really. A vendetta against... the AAF!! That's a very persuasive argument! You got me. But seriously... ...Just because neither of you bother dispute the points laid out for you, this what you have to say, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Has Johnny Football suited up yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 8 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Has Johnny Football suited up yet? He got in and made some plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 More Johnny highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 4:44 AM, Kirby Jackson said: I won’t watch a single play. It is a low level CFL (and we don’t have a CFL sub forum). It will never see season 2. People just aren’t interested in minor league sports. https://sports.yahoo.com/aaf-chairman-says-league-could-fold-if-nflpa-wont-let-it-use-nfl-players-170726633.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 3/26/2019 at 5:15 AM, Bills2ref said: Like I said earlier, the AAF stole WEO’s lunch money ? he has a personal vendetta. In the words of Eminem “I have been sent here to destroy you” He's a very predictable poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: https://sports.yahoo.com/aaf-chairman-says-league-could-fold-if-nflpa-wont-let-it-use-nfl-players-170726633.html That's a really bad sign. They can't just be a league of NFL wash-outs. That was probably obvious to them. I bet they're plan was to have a strong initial showing and then use that to bargain with the NFLPA. That's a steep uphill battle. The XFL will run into the same problem, even if they have more money to throw around. They need to be a paying alternative to the NCAA. Develop star players of their own right out of high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2019/03/27/alliance-of-american-football-aaf-tom-dundon-future-nflpa/3287922002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I would say that the biggest problem they face is I have no idea what channel they are on. I think they play on Sunday? 2019 advertising is free. Get some witty kid to run your twitter account and drum up publicity the easy way. Look at Wendy's twitter for inspiration. Commercials on ESPN or basic cable touting their brand. Something. Anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2019/03/27/alliance-of-american-football-aaf-tom-dundon-future-nflpa/3287922002/ Anything that gives them more concussive hits to the head...is probably not a good idea for a young NFL player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 ...uh oh...already??........ AAF in jeopardy of folding, says majority owner 1:55 PM ET ESPN The majority owner of the Alliance of American Football told USA Today Sports that league is in danger of folding without help from the National Football League Players Association. Tom Dundon, who became the AAF's chairman last month, told USA Today Sports in a recent interview that the NFLPA is not cooperating with the AAF by refusing to allow the first-year league to use young NFL players. "If the players union is not going to give us young players, we can't be a development league," Dundon told USA Today Sports. "We are looking at our options, one of which is discontinuing the league." http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/26372845/aaf-jeopardy-folding-says-majority-owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 20 hours ago, LeGOATski said: He's a very predictable poster. Yeah, I can predict the obvious. Like the demise of yet another "pro football league". Now they are blaming .....the NFLPA?? Makes no sense. This guy is blowing smoke when he should have been far more careful with his money. What a fool. Pretty predictable right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Maybe Vince McMahon is using their (AAF) experience, and his past failure, to better prepare the XFL? He did just sell off a bunch of stock (I think worth 270 mill recently) for the XFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 Apollos @ Express on TNT now. Week 2 of the newly single Johnny Football, ladies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Apollos @ Express on TNT now. Week 2 of the newly single Johnny Football, ladies Yes he broke up with his model girlfriend. There is a thread on it in Off the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 Manziel down. He was actually playing well. His receiver let a sure TD through his hands and it was intercepted. Manziel hurt trying to make a tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Manziel down. He was actually playing well. His receiver let a sure TD through his hands and it was intercepted. Manziel hurt trying to make a tackle. He looks pretty severely concussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Manziel was completely out cold there. Looked serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 Orlando QB Gilbert, normally the best in the league, throwing picks like Mardi Gras beads today. A lot of injuries in this game. I can appreciate the NFLPA's position not allowing NFL players in the AAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punching Bag Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: He looks pretty severely concussed. He always seems severely concussed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 stadium in Salt Lake is almost empty If the league survives they may want to relocate the Stallions to Portland, or Boise, or maybe go international with Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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