row_33 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) Keep at it Sabres, looking good for the playoffs leafs acquiring Muzzin was very wise ????? Edited February 6, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, shrader said: Let's ignore for a second the position of any upcoming team on the schedule. This is the point where they need to string together a few wins. Lately the pattern has been win one, lose 2-3. That very quickly drops you down the standings. It needs to end. Are you issuing a fiat that the losing has to stop? I wish you had the power to do that. Pegula would not only have you on the payroll but you would be richly remunerated. Are you aware that you are too late with your fiat because Plezmd has already issued the same fiat a dozen times already? I agree with you that this homestand is going to be very important in determining whether the team will be playing meaningful games at the very end of the season. As much as I want to make the playoffs I will be focusing on how our young players improve and finish out the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, JohnC said: Maybe curtailing your imbibing might result in more sober thinking? When the Sabres lose you complain. When the Sabres win you complain. The obvious conclusion is that you are inherently a complainer. Your persona has become very dark and dour. When you go for a walk on a bright sunny and cloudless day in the summer do you carry an umbrella with you because you are expecting an imminent torrential rain? You are working too hard to be negative about Housley. A win is a win. One can certainly say the way the way a team is winning is not sustainable..we saw that in the streak. Not winning in regulation hurts. It is akin to an NFL team winning because they are recovering a ton of fumbles..it is just not sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: One can certainly say the way the way a team is winning is not sustainable..we saw that in the streak. Not winning in regulation hurts. It is akin to an NFL team winning because they are recovering a ton of fumbles..it is just not sustainable. This team obviously needs more talent. And the young talent that it has on its roster and farm system need to be developed. That's the reality that you have to face. Fixating on your bogeyman in Housley resolves little. It's about adding more talent. It takes time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Maybe curtailing your imbibing might result in more sober thinking? When the Sabres lose you complain. When the Sabres win you complain. The obvious conclusion is that you are inherently a complainer. Your persona has become very dark and dour. When you go for a walk on a bright sunny and cloudless day in the summer do you carry an umbrella with you because you are expecting an imminent torrential rain? You are working too hard to be negative about Housley. A win is a win. Have you never seen his "It's too hot and it's only April" threads? That said, I agree with @plenzmd1 about Housley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, snafu said: Have you never seen his "It's too hot and it's only April" threads? That said, I agree with @plenzmd1 about Housley. I was almost gunna B word it was too freaking hot last night for a February night! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 4 hours ago, JohnC said: Are you issuing a fiat that the losing has to stop? More like a fatwa, actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, snafu said: Have you never seen his "It's too hot and it's only April" threads? That said, I agree with @plenzmd1 about Housley. I am proud of my status of being part of the resistance to the despotic and overbearing majority. If Plenzmd says up---I say down. If he says yes----I say no. If he says go north---I go south. If he wants to fire----I want to give an extension. He is the barometer from which I make my judgments. When I do the opposite of what he is advocating for I end up being infused with overwhelming confidence that I am right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 I was in NYC yesterday and didn’t get back to buffalo until pretty late. So I was pretty tired watching the game on DVR but I thought buffalo played a pretty old, exciting game. They had an excellent 1st period. They dominated. Minnesota didn’t even get a single shot off until about 8 mins into the period iirc. Buffalo came out playing like their hair was on fire. They are finally learning how to show up at puck drop. That is a definite improvement over previous seasons. Minnesota pushed back in the 2nd and buffalo did not handle it well. But still managed 2 goals in the period. The 2nd period has been one of buffalo’s biggest weaknesses for many years now, going back to Bylsma. Then, the 3rd I felt was better. It was a back and forth period. Both teams had their chances. Overall I thought it was a pretty even game. I thought some of the new lines looked pretty good. Reinhart had one of his best games of the year. He looked good with both ERod and Mittelstadt. Mitts had one of his best games in a while. Eichel was fantastic no matter who his line mates were. I like Sheary with him in the 1st. Skinner didn’t seeem to do as well away from Eichel and it looked like he ended up back with Eichel for the 3rd, inch I’m fine with (though I’d like to see Skinner on his own a bit more so botterill has a better idea of what he’s truly worth $$ wise). IMO they have to think about keeping Reinhart away from Eichel. It gives us a much better 2nd line and anoher line that can help drive the play in the O zone and score some goals. Pilut had his moments, but he also had some huge mistakes. He just stood there on the 3rd goal and watched Coyle bury the puck and had numerous other defensive lapses. People shouldn’t act shocked if he is scratched again. Ullmark was fantastic. Still too makes mistakes that lead to goals against. But this is a young team. I can’t think of many other young teams around the NHL who play excellent defense. At least buffalo is playing an exciting brand of hockey though, which is what everyone was screaming for when we had Bylsma. I would much rather watch an exciting game like last night over pretty much any low scoring snooze fest of a game Bylsma coached... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lurker said: More like a fatwa, actually... Not so. This is a secular and not religious site. The majority mob wants to rule by fiat and not by issuing a fatwa because it is more politically correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, JohnC said: I am proud of my status of being part of the resistance to the despotic and overbearing majority. If Plenzmd says up---I say down. If he says yes----I say no. If he says go north---I go south. If he wants to fire----I want to give an extension. He is the barometer from which I make my judgments. When I do the opposite of what he is advocating for I end up being infused with overwhelming confidence that I am right. Ah, an Alanis Morissette fan, I see. That explains a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 glad to see Reinhart still on his own line. I actually like these lines. Maybe flip Reinhart and Okposo, or bring smith up to Reinhart line if things don’t work with Sheary/Mitts/Reinhart. D pairings the same. I’m good with that, too. I thought Dahlin/Risto and Scandella/McCabe both played well together yesterday and though I thought Pilut made a few mistakes (and 1 big one that resulted in a goal), he also had some good moments and overall that pairing did ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 5 hours ago, row_33 said: Keep at it Sabres, looking good for the playoffs leafs acquiring Muzzin was very wise ????? Is this a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: glad to see Reinhart still on his own line. I actually like these lines. Maybe flip Reinhart and Okposo, or bring smith up to Reinhart line if things don’t work with Sheary/Mitts/Reinhart. D pairings the same. I’m good with that, too. I thought Dahlin/Risto and Scandella/McCabe both played well together yesterday and though I thought Pilut made a few mistakes (and 1 big one that resulted in a goal), he also had some good moments and overall that pairing did ok. Why would Housley remove Reinhart from Smith and Erod after having one of his best games as a Sabre? Makes no sense. None. Thompson sitting instead of SOBotka? Why? Faceoffs in left circle dot? He has Larsson back for that if needed. Tired of having a coach learning on the job as opposed to someone who knows what’s up in this league. Last thing our developing players need as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, K-9 said: Ah, an Alanis Morissette fan, I see. That explains a lot. I often feel like a character from Les Miserables manning the barricades. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=les+miserables&&view=detail&mid=25F6828482292737510525F68284822927375105&&FORM=VDRVRV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 47 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: glad to see Reinhart still on his own line. I actually like these lines. Maybe flip Reinhart and Okposo, or bring smith up to Reinhart line if things don’t work with Sheary/Mitts/Reinhart. D pairings the same. I’m good with that, too. I thought Dahlin/Risto and Scandella/McCabe both played well together yesterday and though I thought Pilut made a few mistakes (and 1 big one that resulted in a goal), he also had some good moments and overall that pairing did ok. You are now in the discipline line because you said something positive about Scandella. That is not allowed here. You will shortly be notified of your suspension dates for your problematic comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: I like those lines. The only exception is I would rather have Tage starting over Sobotka. He has showed much more IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Ah, an Alanis Morissette fan, I see. That explains a lot. You oughta know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 5 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: One can certainly say the way the way a team is winning is not sustainable..we saw that in the streak. Not winning in regulation hurts. It is akin to an NFL team winning because they are recovering a ton of fumbles..it is just not sustainable. I applaud your persistence. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/05/state-union-nancy-pelosi-clap-trump-quickly-becomes-meme/2786195002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Why would Housley remove Reinhart from Smith and Erod after having one of his best games as a Sabre? Makes no sense. None. Thompson sitting instead of SOBotka? Why? Faceoffs in left circle dot? He has Larsson back for that if needed. Tired of having a coach learning on the job as opposed to someone who knows what’s up in this league. Last thing our developing players need as well. He played shifts with Mittelstadt in yesterday’s game and I thought Mitts looked really good with Reinhart. So IMO it makes sense to see if Reinhart can help get Mitts going. Plus, the Sheary/Mitts/Reinhart line was together in the 3rd period against Minnesota and I thought they looked good. They scored goal #4 that would have been the game winner if not for the wild tying it with 1min remaining. And If that line combo doesn’t work, I’m sure Housley and his asst. coaches will switch things up in game again. As I said in my last post I could see Reinhart being reunited with ERod and Smith. And I thought Thompson had a somewhat rough game yesterday (and really, his last couple games). He was demoted to the 4th line before the Wild game, and Housley was presumably looking for a response which Thompson never gave. So it wasn’t surprising to see. Sometimes it’s good for these young kids to get to take a step back and breath. I agree Sobotka sucks. But at least he’s on the 4th line now, and is a better fit there than Thompson if Housley is looking to use them as more of a defense first, grinder line like he normally does. 1 hour ago, Pete said: I like those lines. The only exception is I would rather have Tage starting over Sobotka. He has showed much more IMO I agree Tage has way, way more potential than Sobotka. But I also think he’s much more suited for a top 9 role than a 4th line (role). Sobotka fits that 4th line grinder role better IMO. So I tend to look at it more like Thompson is sitting for CJ Smith. Edited February 6, 2019 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 Damn, if that’s what a 34yr old bottom 6 center rental is going for, I don’t have much hope that Buffalo will be able to acquire a top 6 C rental this year. There’s no way Botterill is giving up a 1st for a rental. I think it’ll be tough to get a rental this year anyway. The Sabes don’t have their 2nd round pick this year, and they don’t have their 3rd or 4th round pick this year either (depending on Sheary’s point totals and/or Hunwick being traded, it’ll either be our 3rd or our 4th). They don’t have their own 3rd next year either. It would likely have to be a player for player/prospect type of trade, or a 1st for a younger player with term and/or team control left. Buffalo just isn’t in position to give up a 1st for a rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 50 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: He played shifts with Mittelstadt in yesterday’s game and I thought Mitts looked really good with Reinhart. So IMO it makes sense to see if Reinhart can help get Mitts going. Plus, the Sheary/Mitts/Reinhart line was together in the 3rd period against Minnesota and I thought they looked good. They scored goal #4 that would have been the game winner if not for the wild tying it with 1min remaining. And If that line combo doesn’t work, I’m sure Housley and his asst. coaches will switch things up in game again. As I said in my last post I could see Reinhart being reunited with ERod and Smith. And I thought Thompson had a somewhat rough game yesterday (and really, his last couple games). He was demoted to the 4th line before the Wild game, and Housley was presumably looking for a response which Thompson never gave. So it wasn’t surprising to see. Sometimes it’s good for these young kids to get to take a step back and breath. I agree Sobotka sucks. But at least he’s on the 4th line now, and is a better fit there than Thompson if Housley is looking to use them as more of a defense first, grinder line like he normally does. I agree Tage has way, way more potential than Sobotka. But I also think he’s much more suited for a top 9 role than a 4th line (role). Sobotka fits that 4th line grinder role better IMO. So I tend to look at it more like Thompson is sitting for CJ Smith. Ok, I’ll buy that about what Reino and Mitts did in the third. They did have some chemistry, I guess. At least Reino, while not a burner, can keep up with them better than Okposo, who now won’t be able to keep up with Erod and Smith instead. No easy decisions for coach clueless it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I agree Sobotka sucks. But at least he’s on the 4th line now, and is a better fit there than Thompson if Housley is looking to use them as more of a defense first, grinder line like he normally does. That O'Reily trade... not so good. I know they had to let him go, but they got a guy who isn't there any more, a fourth-liner, a shaky G starter who's being pushed by a kid with more potential, and a first rounder. The only hope is that the first round pick turns out. As of now, it looks like we'd get it this year if St. Louis stays where they are overall, and it is a deep first round, by reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Any news on Ullmark? Hope he gets the nod tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, snafu said: That O'Reily trade... not so good. I know they had to let him go, but they got a guy who isn't there any more, a fourth-liner, a shaky G starter who's being pushed by a kid with more potential, and a first rounder. The only hope is that the first round pick turns out. As of now, it looks like we'd get it this year if St. Louis stays where they are overall, and it is a deep first round, by reports. Hutton wasn't part of that trade, Tage Thompson was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Hutton wasn't part of that trade, Tage Thompson was. Oh yes. Thank Goodness. That actually does make it better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Any news on Ullmark? Hope he gets the nod tomorrow. He was late to practice today but I believe he did end up participating. So I’m hoping that means he’s ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 13 hours ago, snafu said: That O'Reily trade... not so good. I know they had to let him go, but they got a guy who isn't there any more, a fourth-liner, a shaky G starter who's being pushed by a kid with more potential, and a first rounder. The only hope is that the first round pick turns out. As of now, it looks like we'd get it this year if St. Louis stays where they are overall, and it is a deep first round, by reports. You can also hold out hope that they find a good use for the unexpected cap relief they got. It may very well be a blessing in disguise in a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, shrader said: You can also hold out hope that they find a good use for the unexpected cap relief they got. It may very well be a blessing in disguise in a couple years. We live in hope and die in despair. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, shrader said: You can also hold out hope that they find a good use for the unexpected cap relief they got. It may very well be a blessing in disguise in a couple years. From a short term and talent standpoint the ROR trade hurt the team. But as you noted it gave us future cap relief and the ability to sign or resign players. Also, Mittelstad got a lot of playing time as the center on the second or lesser lines because of the departure of the ROR. So hopefully, the additional playing time that the younger player receives will accelerate his development. I think he is really going to be good in the not too distant future. Although the production isn't there now the offensive talent is evident. ROR was the team captain when he was in Buffalo. When he left Jack became the captain and leader of the team. It seems to me that the players are more receptive to respond to Jack than to the more introverted O'Reilly. Another aspect to this deal is that Botterill wanted to upgrade the speed of the team. Last year, we were one of the slowest teams in the league. Our defensive unit and our forward lines are collectively faster. That is important in a league that is becoming faster and more skilled. When everything is tallied it is evident that in the short term we lost more than we gained. But in the long term the pendulum should swing in our favor. And if that extra first round pick becomes a chip in a significant signing then the deal would even look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 “Many of the Sabres enjoying playing meaningful games in February (for the first time)” https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/many-sabres-are-enjoying-meaningful-games-february Quote McCabe knows many of his teammates are like him. He said, “A lot of the guys in this room have been here for some really tough stretches, so to be playing meaningful hockey in February right in the thick of a playoff race is really important for us as a group because we haven’t experienced that.” “A lot of guys have been lucky enough to be in the playoffs and it will bring another aspect to our game with the guys that have been there showing us guys that haven’t been there and guys need to dig in and find more to give every single night because I don’t think you’re going to find a hungrier group to make the playoffs than in here.” I know I’ve already mentioned this, but I really do think the bolded could be part of the thought process behind (not the whole reason, but in part) why Housley keeps veterans like Sobotka and Scandella in the lineup. They offer important first hand playoff experience to a group that’s sorely lacking it. I also wonder, if you start healthy scratching those guys on a regular basis, will it start to take some weight away from their words in the locker room (similar to what we saw happen to Josh Gorges in his last season or two here)? I’d imagine it’s probably harder for a guy to lead if he doesn’t really have a regular role on the team. I am sure some guys would be less inclined to listen to a veteran that is your 13th forward or #7 defenseman vs. a guy who is out there on the ice every night, battling with you. So many of what we consider to be our core have no playoff experience - Eichel, Reinhart, Ristolainen, even Skinner (hopefully). Same goes for guys like McCabe, Girgensons, Larsson, Rodriguez, Nelson. You can even include rookies like Mitts, Dahlin, Pilut, Thompson. I mean, what is that, almost 3/4 of the team? When you look at all the guys we have with no playoff experience, it’s not that surprising our coach and GM are keeping the very few veteran players we have (with playoff experience) in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Meaningful games in February? What a sad commentary it is that we have sucked so bad for so long that it’s considered a high mark not to be out of playoff contention with 30 games still left to play for a change. Here’s a thought for those players so thrilled to be playing meaningful games in February: the games from October through January are every bit as meaningful. Treat those games just as crucial to success and you’re gonna be assured of playing meaningful games in April and beyond. But hey, it’s February and we’re not out of it yet. WHIPPEE! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 54 minutes ago, K-9 said: Meaningful games in February? What a sad commentary it is that we have sucked so bad for so long that it’s considered a high mark not to be out of playoff contention with 30 games still left to play for a change. Here’s a thought for those players so thrilled to be playing meaningful games in February: the games from October through January are every bit as meaningful. Treat those games just as crucial to success and you’re gonna be assured of playing meaningful games in April and beyond. But hey, it’s February and we’re not out of it yet. WHIPPEE! If only they had considered those December and January games to be meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 The below link is a 10 min discussion with Chad DeDominicis on WGR. I was reluctant to post it because I fear that the combustible Plezmd becomes even more flammable after listening to this interview where he criticizes some of Housley's decisions. Chad uses the analytics to support his positions. It's a good discussion that very much mirrors our discussions here. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/02-07-chad-dedominicis-die-blade-howard-and-jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 52 minutes ago, JohnC said: The below link is a 10 min discussion with Chad DeDominicis on WGR. I was reluctant to post it because I fear that the combustible Plezmd becomes even more flammable after listening to this interview where he criticizes some of Housley's decisions. Chad uses the analytics to support his positions. It's a good discussion that very much mirrors our discussions here. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/02-07-chad-dedominicis-die-blade-howard-and-jeremy can't listen now, but I assume if he says Housley sucks, he is right!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) Headed to the game. Let’s hope for a win! Edited February 7, 2019 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Ulmark is indeed in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Headed to the game. Let’s hope for a win! If the Sabres win Plezmd will still complain about how Housley juggled the lines. When it comes to the coach he can be very robotic and programmed. To his credit he is consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, K-9 said: Meaningful games in February? What a sad commentary it is that we have sucked so bad for so long that it’s considered a high mark not to be out of playoff contention with 30 games still left to play for a change. Here’s a thought for those players so thrilled to be playing meaningful games in February: the games from October through January are every bit as meaningful. Treat those games just as crucial to success and you’re gonna be assured of playing meaningful games in April and beyond. But hey, it’s February and we’re not out of it yet. WHIPPEE! You've been critical of my realism/tough-love takes on the Bills..........but you are far more unforgiving of the Sabres than I have been of the Bills. This thread has been a lot more entertaining than the Tankres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 So, I am not at a place can watch till about 8:30, but did I see coach genuis is benching Tage and keeping 17 in the lineup? Jesus, do we want this guy to screw with every young players head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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