Elite Poster Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I imagine these stats include his first 5-6 games that were largely awful. Since then he's been a decent rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: This is a common problem I have seen as a Bills fan - most people outside of Buffalo really don’t have a good grasp of what’s going on. They read stats/ or watch highlights but have zero context. To be fair, we do the exact same thing here with players from other teams. Some of us may intently follow other teams as well, but the vast majority of people here, as well as any sports "expert" or "analyst" simply refer to stats and highlights. That being said, there are accurate analyses out there for every team, and certainly groups that cover each team well. But stuff like this? Armchair research at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, stony said: Single-team our WR's at your own risk... Who needs be doubled? Honestly asking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Who needs be doubled? Honestly asking.. Honest answer - nobody. The Bills will need to have a strong run game to win, which isn't out of the question. Get Shady into at least some space and let Ivory handle the power runs. If Daboll insist on handing the ball off to Shady behind the line, and the Oline can't open up holes, that will be futile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 8 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: most people outside of Buffalo really don’t have a good grasp of what’s going on. They read stats/ or watch highlights but have zero context. Not surprising. If we weren't Bills fans, would we want to watch entire games of this team?... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateFinsFan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Boston sports reporters are quite possibly the worst in the industry. They seem to think that the AFC east is irrelevant to them. Or they think the Pats have some sort of easy Ws year round, lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 8 hours ago, jletha said: All of his season long stats incorporate his first 4 games which were admittedly awful. If you trim the stats to only the last 4 then he is much better. Thats the problem most national guys are having. Yep. Who here thinks it’s a coincidence that the bottom 3 guys are all rookies? It takes time. My definition of success for this season was Josh showing progress and giving us hope. We’ve got that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Good thing we traded up for him then. Did they trade up for him because they thought he was a #1 I think not. You have to be at least three deep at WR in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 hours ago, dorquemada said: I miss empire sports or whatever that WNY focused network was remember will brinson and the coach on the radio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: The Bills OL is a weakness.......their receiving corps is not good...........their running backs have been ineffective all season. It's dumb for a team to let Allen run for 100 yards and sustain drives all day. Keep the spy in.......contain him.......use that gap integrity to stuff the running game and make Zay Jones, Robert Foster and Deonte Thompson beat you. My guess is Gilmore will be on Foster Sunday...........Zay has not been able to get open now that he's been getting more attention the past two weeks..........but I think Belichick will try to take away Foster and take his chances with Jones and Thompson. I agree, Belicheat knows that Zay will drop at least two passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Who needs be doubled? Honestly asking.. If you have to ask, they've already beat you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 2 hours ago, stony said: If you have to ask, they've already beat you... Dude, I’ve been on this site this year! I know how “Elite” your we are.. I see the complaining lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Dude, I’ve been on this site this year! I know how “Elite” your we are.. I see the complaining lol Lol. Just having some fun with ya. Our WRs are a scrappy bunch. Edited December 21, 2018 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 14 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Meh. It's exactly what Matt Patricia did last week and Allen made plenty of plays from the pocket. They made him "Be a Quarterback" and he was just that. Agreed. Detroit has a significantly more athletic linebakers than NE. Allen is an interesting case. Our wr struggle vs man. That creates running voids. Allen has the arm to fit the ball in a window the size of a needle. Imo this is a perfect late season barometer to gauge Allen's progression. I think Allen does better than most expect. Those that haven't seen Allen the last 4 weeks will be running to his bandwagon. I think Buffalo loses but the story will be Allen and, wow give him some dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just now, Mat68 said: Agreed. Detroit has a significantly more athletic linebakers than NE. Allen is an interesting case. Our wr struggle vs man. That creates running voids. Allen has the arm to fit the ball in a window the size of a needle. Imo this is a perfect late season barometer to gauge Allen's progression. I think Allen does better than most expect. Those that haven't seen Allen the last 4 weeks will be running to his bandwagon. I think Buffalo loses but the story will be Allen and, wow give him some dudes. You know Belichick will do everything to take Foster away and make Allen seek out other targets. Zay Jones better bring it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: You know Belichick will do everything to take Foster away and make Allen seek out other targets. Zay Jones better bring it this week. Yes but than does he allow a bad team to run on him? You playing man 1 with the safety over top foster all game? Imo th sneaky thing about Allen and foster is how long Allen holds it til he throws deep. Its deeper than any team can practice. Hoyers not testing that defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Yes but than does he allow a bad team to run on him? You playing man 1 with the safety over top foster all game? Imo th sneaky thing about Allen and foster is how long Allen holds it til he throws deep. Its deeper than any team can practice. Hoyers not testing that defense. Foster as the Bills' most dangerous receiver will draw Gilmore I believe. Belichick and his D just faced Antonio and JuJu last week, so I think they'll be ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Foster as the Bills' most dangerous receiver will draw Gilmore I believe. Belichick and his D just faced Antonio and JuJu last week, so I think they'll be ready. Right but I'm ok with Gilmore tracking a ball 50 yards down the feild 1 on 1 or any NE defender. The deep cross is something Gilmore cant defend 1 on 1. Now I do see Gilmore on Jones and erasing him from existing. Foster like Hill will have chances. Does him and Allen connect on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Well that IS the blueprint. Contain him in the pocket and make him beat them with his arm. That's the blueprint for any young, mobile QB. Allen's biggest weapon right now is his feet. He is inconsistent with his arm. If he is going to make mistakes it is with his arm, so you want him to throw it rather than run it. And if Allen hangs 14 points on them? Big deal. That's not going to beat the Pats. So absolutely they should be containing him and playing their gaps to keep him in the pocket. But if that writer thinks he's some genius for figuring that out, he's a moron because everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 18 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Meh. It's exactly what Matt Patricia did last week and Allen made plenty of plays from the pocket. They made him "Be a Quarterback" and he was just that. Lol it's also what everyone else has done this season, and he's been awful. Forgive me if I don't put much stock in a win against Matt Patricia in the Lions & think he'll play the same way against Bill Belichick & the Patriots It's funny that fans will pretend they only remember the exceptions to the rule while ignoring the rule itself. It's been a common occurrence this year, and it's shocking people haven't learned from being burned so many times. On the flip side, if Allen gets stomped by the Patriots, I won't blame him as much as I would any other week. It's the Patriots, we're the Bills. They have destroyed us for nearly 2 decades now. If I were Allen, I'd just sling away. If you lose, oh well. So did every other Bills QB - REPEATEDLY. If you win, you look like a million bucks. So go for broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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