Bills Release Peterman

[billsfan89]

1 minute ago, Miracle Bills said:

 

Dibiase isn't making excuses for Peterman. He is stating Peterman never should have been put in the spots he was put in. How can you expect a rookie to play well in an offense that an experienced veteran like Tyrod Taylor could not even play well in? A smart coach never pulls Tyrod and gives a start to Peterman. 

 

That's kind of the way I looked at it. The team put Peterman in way over his head and he played like a player in way over his head. That's not to say that Peterman would have been anything special had he been a third stringer for 3-4 years to start his career, but rather that his career would have stood a chance at some sort of progression had he been handled like a standard mid round QB. 

[K-9]

2 minutes ago, Miracle Bills said:

 

Dibiase isn't making excuses for Peterman. He is stating Peterman never should have been put in the spots he was put in. How can you expect a rookie to play well in an offense that an experienced veteran like Tyrod Taylor could not even play well in? A smart coach never pulls Tyrod and gives a start to Peterman. 

That may not be Dibiase's intent, but the intent doesn't matter. That's exactly how it reads. Like I said, the idea that Peterman was put in a position he "never should have been put in" is preposterous and the idea that, as a grown man who has spent his athletic life preparing for just such an opportunity should be coddled because he wasn't "ready for it"  is an even bigger insult to Peterman. 

 

And coaches; smart, dumb, or in between do dumb things (in hindsight) all the time. In trying to give his struggling team a spark and a rallying point after another flat offensive performance, he tried something and it failed miserably. That's on McD. 

 

You know what's not on McD? Observing that Peterman was his best QB in camp and preseason who clearly won the job. It's on Peterman, and Peterman alone, for not being able to translate practice performance into game performance. He simply wasn't up for the task. It happens; that's as far as it goes. Dibiase et al should try to understand that instead of tossing out the idea that Peterman didn't have a "proper" opportunity. It rings hollow and doesn't serve Nathan Peterman one bit. 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

We're still talking about this?

 

 

...well, we could always......

 

1. Resurrect Tuh-rod threads.

2. Resurrect EJ threads.

3. Wait patiently for Kevin1778's next bombshell.

 

...pick your poison............

 

[Miracle Bills]

3 minutes ago, K-9 said:

That may not be Dibiase's intent, but the intent doesn't matter. That's exactly how it reads. Like I said, the idea that Peterman was put in a position he "never should have been put in" is preposterous and the idea that, as a grown man who has spent his athletic life preparing for just such an opportunity should be coddled because he wasn't "ready for it"  is an even bigger insult to Peterman. 

 

And coaches; smart, dumb, or in between do dumb things (in hindsight) all the time. In trying to give his struggling team a spark and a rallying point after another flat offensive performance, he tried something and it failed miserably. That's on McD. 

 

You know what's not on McD? Observing that Peterman was his best QB in camp and preseason who clearly won the job. It's on Peterman, and Peterman alone, for not being able to translate practice performance into game performance. He simply wasn't up for the task. It happens; that's as far as it goes. Dibiase et al should try to understand that instead of tossing out the idea that Peterman didn't have a "proper" opportunity. It rings hollow and doesn't serve Nathan Peterman one bit. 

 

 

Your reasoning is just like the reasoning of all the people that said Zay Jones was a bust.  Learning how to quarterback in the NFL or play receiver in the NFL is not easy and it is especially not easy with two different offensive coordinators. Nobody is saying Peterman is an NFL quarterback but what people are saying is he was set up for failure from the beginning. 

 

People forget Alex Smith started his career out with similar stats to Nathan Peterman. I don't think Peterman is a starting NFL quarterback, but like Dibiase I think people should not be rushed along and set up for failure.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[K-9]

1 hour ago, Miracle Bills said:

 

Your reasoning is just like the reasoning of all the people that said Zay Jones was a bust.  Learning how to quarterback in the NFL or play receiver in the NFL is not easy and it is especially not easy with two different offensive coordinators. Nobody is saying Peterman is an NFL quarterback but what people are saying is he was set up for failure from the beginning. 

 

People forget Alex Smith started his career out with similar stats to Nathan Peterman. I don't think Peterman is a starting NFL quarterback, but like Dibiase I think people should not be rushed along and set up for failure.

It's not the same reasoning at all. 

 

We are conflating the issue here. Just because Peterman wasn't able to seize his opportunity doesn't mean we don't understand that he needed more development time. That's rather obvious.

 

But Peterman doesn't need the Dibiase's of the world trying to say that poor Nathan Peterman never had a chance when he was given the chance. Peterman prepared his entire career for that "chance"; a chance that any QB prospect worth his salt would want. Was Peterman being denied "proper" support when he won the job last preseason? Should he have told the coaches he wasn't ready? Of course not. But as good as he was in practice and preseason games, the real game situations were too big for him. Shame on the coaches for being fooled by those practice and preseason game performances, but Peterman's Jekyl and Hyde performance is on him, too.  

 

Peterman was not the first and he won't be the last QB to fail when given the opportunity. Could he have used more time and seasoning to become a better QB? Absolutely. But that's a different argument. 

[Miracle Bills]

6 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Peterman was not the first and he won't be the last QB to fail when given the opportunity. Could he have used more time and seasoning to become a better QB? Absolutely. But that's a different argument. 

 

I think the point was he is not a starting quarterback but if the Bills had been patient with him and treated him like the 5th rounder he was, he likely would have done better. Fifth round quarterbacks don't start NFL games as rookies. Even Tom Brady only threw 1 pass his entire rookie year.

 

The thought a team would start a 5th round rookie is not even considered by most coaches.  You can say he would have failed eventually because he is not good, but he should never have been put in situations where his confidence could be ruined. Any evaluator of talent can see he is not some great quarterback who could win NFL games as a starter in his rookie year. The amount of abuse he takes nationally is not his fault. It is the coaches fault for not being able to see he did not belong on the field. He should have been a practice squad project or he should have been cut.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Miracle Bills

[transplantbillsfan]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2018/11/14/18095115/nathan-peterman-buffalo-bills-stats-long-live-the-peter-man

Review: Nathan Peterman was the worst NFL quarterback we’ve seen, and for that we’ll miss him

[GunnerBill]

On ‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 2:24 PM, GreggTX said:

Since so many of you feel that an inability to play at the NFL level is cause for disrespect, I would ask, what does that say about yourselves? Apparantly you feel that you are even less deserving of respect. Why can't you simply thank him for trying and wish him well. To put it another way, grow up.

 

That I've been a lot more successful in my field than Nate in his?

[26CornerBlitz]

What a day that was. 

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

This must be racism. 

[TigerJ]

"Release" sounds so much nicer than "cutting his arse."

[Thurman Kelly]

I could see Nate doing quite well in the army.  After all, you don't want those grenades landing anywhere near your own guys!

[PittsforDave]

7 minutes ago, Thurman Kelly said:

I could see Nate doing quite well in the army.  After all, you don't want those grenades landing anywhere near your own guys!

Yeah, he seems to take abuse well and is definitely not a leader. He’d be Humbled to the point of humiliation...

 

His panicking when real bullets fly (similar to his onfield play) would be his demise and his platoon (team) unfortunately. 

 

 

[Scott7975]

On ‎11‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 7:31 PM, Miracle Bills said:

 

I think the point was he is not a starting quarterback but if the Bills had been patient with him and treated him like the 5th rounder he was, he likely would have done better. Fifth round quarterbacks don't start NFL games as rookies. Even Tom Brady only threw 1 pass his entire rookie year.

 

The thought a team would start a 5th round rookie is not even considered by most coaches.  You can say he would have failed eventually because he is not good, but he should never have been put in situations where his confidence could be ruined. Any evaluator of talent can see he is not some great quarterback who could win NFL games as a starter in his rookie year. The amount of abuse he takes nationally is not his fault. It is the coaches fault for not being able to see he did not belong on the field. He should have been a practice squad project or he should have been cut.

Awe is that you Kevin?

[keepthefaith]

I for one am growing tired of the many classless reports by the so called media and of many of the classless posts aimed at Nate on this board. To the hyper critical media and to some who post here I wonder how many of y'all have attempted to do or achieve something in life that is truly difficult and enormously challenging?  Things such as being a pro or high level athlete, a successful musician, a business founder/owner/manager, a survivor of trauma or disease or anything else that is VERY challenging.  Seriously, how many people can really say they've lived that experience? It's a small percentage of the population folks. I won't defend Nate's performances in games as a Buffalo Bill as they were often bad as was the team around him.  I will say though that most people who have achieved success in highly competitive or demanding professions/environments have had failures and setbacks along the way to success.  Some never achieve the success they want but are nonetheless very talented and determined individuals.  They deserve some level of respect even in failure, for they reached for something more than most and took the risk, had the guts to put themselves out there, operated way outside the comfort zone. 

 

Nate's a young guy at 24 and deserves respect for the journey that led him to the NFL and in his continued quest to continue his NFL career.  More here should be wishing him well rather than declaring him incapable from behind a keyboard.  I doubt that many here can claim to be subject matter experts in being an NFL QB, yet so many have brazenly weighed in.  The classless media who have piled on Nate with ridicule in recent weeks along with social media posters (people who mostly have no idea what it takes to achieve something big and probably never will) deserve the ridicule IMO.  Seriously ***** them.  It's OK to be critical of someone's performance but kicking them when they're down is B.S. 

 

Assuming Nate has the competitive fire, I truly hope he can rise above the hate and ridicule and continue his journey with new found determination. I for one will be cheering for him if/when he gets that chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, keepthefaith said:

I for one am growing tired of the many classless reports by the so called media and of many of the classless posts aimed at Nate on this board. To the hyper critical media and to some who post here I wonder how many of y'all have attempted to do or achieve something in life that is truly difficult and enormously challenging?  Things such as being a pro or high level athlete, a successful musician, a business founder/owner/manager, a survivor of trauma or disease or anything else that is VERY challenging.  Seriously, how many people can really say they've lived that experience? It's a small percentage of the population folks. I won't defend Nate's performances in games as a Buffalo Bill as they were often bad as was the team around him.  I will say though that most people who have achieved success in highly competitive or demanding professions/environments have had failures and setbacks along the way to success.  Some never achieve the success they want but are nonetheless very talented and determined individuals.  They deserve some level of respect even in failure, for they reached for something more than most and took the risk, had the guts to put themselves out there, operated way outside the comfort zone. 

 

Nate's a young guy at 24 and deserves respect for the journey that led him to the NFL and in his continued quest to continue his NFL career.  More here should be wishing him well rather than declaring him incapable from behind a keyboard.  I doubt that many here can claim to be subject matter experts in being an NFL QB, yet so many have brazenly weighed in.  The classless media who have piled on Nate with ridicule in recent weeks along with social media posters (people who mostly have no idea what it takes to achieve something big and probably never will) deserve the ridicule IMO.  Seriously ***** them.  It's OK to be critical of someone's performance but kicking them when they're down is B.S. 

 

Assuming Nate has the competitive fire, I truly hope he can rise above the hate and ridicule and continue his journey with new found determination. I for one will be cheering for him if/when he gets that chance.

 

 He's a scrub and a QB with competitive fire wouldn't be afraid to throw a Hail Mary. 

[Bing Bong]

On 11/15/2018 at 9:00 AM, 26CornerBlitz said:

What a day that was. 

 

 

Probably the most pissed I've ever been as a Bills fan the second this broke lol

 

Inspired me to create an account. So Peterman created me. And I suck on this board. Way to go Pete.

Edited November 17, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[The 9 Isles]

Lol. Fourteen pages on Peterman. Wow.  

[NoSaint]

On 11/14/2018 at 4:14 PM, Miracle Bills said:

 

Your reasoning is just like the reasoning of all the people that said Zay Jones was a bust.  Learning how to quarterback in the NFL or play receiver in the NFL is not easy and it is especially not easy with two different offensive coordinators. Nobody is saying Peterman is an NFL quarterback but what people are saying is he was set up for failure from the beginning. 

 

People forget Alex Smith started his career out with similar stats to Nathan Peterman. I don't think Peterman is a starting NFL quarterback, but like Dibiase I think people should not be rushed along and set up for failure.

 

How long were we supposed to not play him?

 

Would year 3 have been ok?

[Bing Bong]

6 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said:

Lol. Fourteen pages on Peterman. Wow.  

We had quite the debate on whether we should be openly mournful for a backup Quarterback. Don't read it.

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, keepthefaith said:

I for one am growing tired of the many classless reports by the so called media and of many of the classless posts aimed at Nate on this board. To the hyper critical media and to some who post here I wonder how many of y'all have attempted to do or achieve something in life that is truly difficult and enormously challenging?  Things such as being a pro or high level athlete, a successful musician, a business founder/owner/manager, a survivor of trauma or disease or anything else that is VERY challenging.  Seriously, how many people can really say they've lived that experience? It's a small percentage of the population folks. I won't defend Nate's performances in games as a Buffalo Bill as they were often bad as was the team around him.  I will say though that most people who have achieved success in highly competitive or demanding professions/environments have had failures and setbacks along the way to success.  Some never achieve the success they want but are nonetheless very talented and determined individuals.  They deserve some level of respect even in failure, for they reached for something more than most and took the risk, had the guts to put themselves out there, operated way outside the comfort zone. 

 

Nate's a young guy at 24 and deserves respect for the journey that led him to the NFL and in his continued quest to continue his NFL career.  More here should be wishing him well rather than declaring him incapable from behind a keyboard.  I doubt that many here can claim to be subject matter experts in being an NFL QB, yet so many have brazenly weighed in.  The classless media who have piled on Nate with ridicule in recent weeks along with social media posters (people who mostly have no idea what it takes to achieve something big and probably never will) deserve the ridicule IMO.  Seriously ***** them.  It's OK to be critical of someone's performance but kicking them when they're down is B.S. 

 

Assuming Nate has the competitive fire, I truly hope he can rise above the hate and ridicule and continue his journey with new found determination. I for one will be cheering for him if/when he gets that chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you feel similar emotions about kerley getting cut? Or what is it about NP2 that gets this kind of fawning?

[Bing Bong]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

 

Did you feel similar emotions about kerley getting cut? Or what is it about NP2 that gets this kind of fawning?

I must have named every bust we cut early.. like 15 dudes from the past season. That's a lot of sadness to burden.

 

FYI I was going for laugh rep points, thanks for acknowledging I suck

 

at least I made the post everybody can agree with. Peterman made me not want Peterman on the Bills. Thus I was named. If ya love Peterman, remember he created my monster account alter ego. If ya don't think he's good. Ya always have PT5P in your corner.

[SWATeam]

On 11/15/2018 at 9:48 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

That I've been a lot more successful in my field than Nate in his?

Doubt it.  Unless you’re the one in a million in your field like the football player that actually makes the NFL.

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

 

Did you feel similar emotions about kerley getting cut? Or what is it about NP2 that gets this kind of fawning?

I must have missed the constant national ridicule of Kerley to make that a similar comparison 

[Bing Bong]

7 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

I for one am growing tired of the many classless reports by the so called media and of many of the classless posts aimed at Nate on this board. To the hyper critical media and to some who post here I wonder how many of y'all have attempted to do or achieve something in life that is truly difficult and enormously challenging?  Things such as being a pro or high level athlete, a successful musician, a business founder/owner/manager, a survivor of trauma or disease or anything else that is VERY challenging.  Seriously, how many people can really say they've lived that experience? It's a small percentage of the population folks. I won't defend Nate's performances in games as a Buffalo Bill as they were often bad as was the team around him.  I will say though that most people who have achieved success in highly competitive or demanding professions/environments have had failures and setbacks along the way to success.  Some never achieve the success they want but are nonetheless very talented and determined individuals.  They deserve some level of respect even in failure, for they reached for something more than most and took the risk, had the guts to put themselves out there, operated way outside the comfort zone. 

 

Nate's a young guy at 24 and deserves respect for the journey that led him to the NFL and in his continued quest to continue his NFL career.  More here should be wishing him well rather than declaring him incapable from behind a keyboard.  I doubt that many here can claim to be subject matter experts in being an NFL QB, yet so many have brazenly weighed in.  The classless media who have piled on Nate with ridicule in recent weeks along with social media posters (people who mostly have no idea what it takes to achieve something big and probably never will) deserve the ridicule IMO.  Seriously ***** them.  It's OK to be critical of someone's performance but kicking them when they're down is B.S. 

 

Assuming Nate has the competitive fire, I truly hope he can rise above the hate and ridicule and continue his journey with new found determination. I for one will be cheering for him if/when he gets that chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

He played professional football. That's an amazing feat many dream of few can do. He flopped like hundreds have done because it's so hard. We've released so many players earlier than Peterman and they were very talented too. That said...

 

Dude nobody in the national media gives a flying **** about the Buffalo Bills. The fact that Peterman has been brought up is because he is so fantastically bad. You can be bad and not be noticed.. and then you can be Peterman bad and the national media is going to be like "oh yeah what's going on with that team?" bad. Literally what other Quarterback has had his career trajectory, it's quite newsworthy.

 

Like you bring up the badgering of the national media like it's a curse.. it's a signal that he's so bad they are going to give him lip service on precious Patriots talk! That's all the average fan literally knows about the Bills! National media isn't usually wrong about the Bills because they don't even bother to have hot takes with them. The only time Bills are brought up is when they are obligated to speak about something so strange like starting Peterman. Blame the coaches, blame the media, blame us(????), BLAME PETERMAN, man's in charge of his football career if he was any good he'd be pissed he was a 5th rounder. He looked like he hates football! 

 

For the love of God write me a love letter on the resilience and talent of Torrell Troupe. PLEASE. Because no one cared lmao. 

Edited November 17, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

9 hours ago, NoSaint said:

 

Did you feel similar emotions about kerley getting cut? Or what is it about NP2 that gets this kind of fawning?

 

Because Kerley didn’t engender the same level of vitriol and mockery? We ALL know why that is.

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, joesixpack said:

 

Because Kerley didn’t engender the same level of vitriol and mockery? We ALL know why that is.

 

Why is that other than him being an all time terrible QB who's not an NFL caliber talent?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Why is that other than him being an all time terrible QB who's not an NFL caliber talent?

 

If you can’t understand why he’s being personally mocked beyond his football failures, that’s on you.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, joesixpack said:

 

If you can’t understand why he’s being personally mocked beyond his football failures, that’s on you.

 

It's on you to believe any other nonsense beyond that. It's historic football ineptitude and nothing more.  Some people and their weak assed agendas. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

25 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It's on you to believe any other nonsense beyond that. It's historic football ineptitude and nothing more.  Some people and their weak assed agendas. 

 

Since when is the truth a weak agenda?

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, joesixpack said:

 

Since when is the truth a weak agenda?

 

Go ahead and expound upon this so called truth. 

[NoSaint]

27 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It's on you to believe any other nonsense beyond that. It's historic football ineptitude and nothing more.  Some people and their weak assed agendas. 

 

Id say it’s 2 parts being a historically bad qb, 1 part coaching insistence to play him and probably 2 parts his fans being really over the top pushy about how great he is despite all evidence to the contrary. 

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

 

Id say it’s 2 parts being a historically bad qb, 1 part coaching insistence to play him and probably 2 parts his fans being really over the top pushy about how great he is despite all evidence to the contrary. 

 

Coming into the league he was advertised as being NFL ready for a number of reasons that proved to be false.  It was also the zealousness of some Bills fans despite ample evidence to the contrary as you say that led to over the top defense of him. Nonetheless he's an embarrassingly bad QB at the NFL level based on his on-field performances.  That's what made him the butt of jokes and ridicule and nothing more.  Anyone who argues anyhting to the contrary is delusional. 

[prissythecat]

12 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

I for one am growing tired of the many classless reports by the so called media and of many of the classless posts aimed at Nate on this board. To the hyper critical media and to some who post here I wonder how many of y'all have attempted to do or achieve something in life that is truly difficult and enormously challenging?  Things such as being a pro or high level athlete, a successful musician, a business founder/owner/manager, a survivor of trauma or disease or anything else that is VERY challenging.  Seriously, how many people can really say they've lived that experience? It's a small percentage of the population folks. I won't defend Nate's performances in games as a Buffalo Bill as they were often bad as was the team around him.  I will say though that most people who have achieved success in highly competitive or demanding professions/environments have had failures and setbacks along the way to success.  Some never achieve the success they want but are nonetheless very talented and determined individuals.  They deserve some level of respect even in failure, for they reached for something more than most and took the risk, had the guts to put themselves out there, operated way outside the comfort zone. 

 

Nate's a young guy at 24 and deserves respect for the journey that led him to the NFL and in his continued quest to continue his NFL career.  More here should be wishing him well rather than declaring him incapable from behind a keyboard.  I doubt that many here can claim to be subject matter experts in being an NFL QB, yet so many have brazenly weighed in.  The classless media who have piled on Nate with ridicule in recent weeks along with social media posters (people who mostly have no idea what it takes to achieve something big and probably never will) deserve the ridicule IMO.  Seriously ***** them.  It's OK to be critical of someone's performance but kicking them when they're down is B.S. 

 

Assuming Nate has the competitive fire, I truly hope he can rise above the hate and ridicule and continue his journey with new found determination. I for one will be cheering for him if/when he gets that chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This post is bizarre on so many levels. Do you have posters of Nate all over your room?

[Miracle Bills]

12 hours ago, NoSaint said:

 

How long were we supposed to not play him?

 

Would year 3 have been ok?

 

He should have been put on the practice squad.  Guys like him are supposed to be put on the practice squad for a year or two while helping the team prepare for different types of quarterbacks each week. Year 3 is when he should have been brought up to be Allen's backup. By year 2 your franchise QB should be starting all your games.

 

5 minutes ago, Miracle Bills said:

 

 

Edited November 17, 2018 by Miracle Bills

[Punching Bag]

On 11/13/2018 at 12:29 PM, Scott7975 said:

McD should be fired right now!!!!

 

Scott7975 should be banned now!

On 11/13/2018 at 2:05 PM, keepthefaith said:

 

Classless article by Gartland who works in an often classless industry. 

 

 a borderline nonsensical rant about “snowflakes” and “liberalism” 

Sounds like he reads Off the Wall.

 

[Punching Bag]

On 11/15/2018 at 9:48 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

That I've been a lot more successful in my field than Nate in his?

 

Success in career is usually measure by money.  You made more than Nate?

[PittsforDave]

What was that rumor about Nate and the equipment coach? I heard things got heavy. 

[26CornerBlitz]

5 minutes ago, PittsforDave said:

What was that rumor about Nate and the equipment coach? I heard things got heavy. 

 

Where do you come up with this salacious crap?