Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) Josh Allen has not played a game in 4 weeks. He has yet to listed as Full in a single practice, meaning he has been Limited or has not practiced at all in a month. Any coach who starts a franchise quarterback without being listed as Full in a single practice, coming off an injury like his, should be fired. Start Barkley if he is afraid to start Peterman. But do not risk the future of the Buffalo Bills so a 2-7 team can possibly win a game. If Allen plays and is injured, Fire McDermott on the airplane tarmac, just like the Raiders did to Kiffen. The fact McDermott hasn't already rule him out makes one wonder if he should be anything more than a defensive coordinator. This young player needs a full week of FULL practice before he should ever get back on the field against a real defense. Edited November 10, 2018 by Kevin1778 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) If yes healthy he absolutely needs to play, if we’re that nervous about injury sit him the rest of the year then Edited November 10, 2018 by GimmeSomeProcess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, GimmeSomeProcess said: If yes healthy he absolutely needs to play If he was fully healthy he wouldn't have been limited in practice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 If he's healthy play him. If he's not sit him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Green Lightning said: If he's healthy play him. If he's not sit him. Once again, if you are limited in practice you aren't fully healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kevin1778 said: If he was fully healthy he wouldn't have been limited in practice. it doesn't mean he wouldn't be ready to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 That's the coach's call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: Josh Allen has not played a game in 4 weeks. He has yet to listed as Full in a single practice, meaning he has been Limited or has not practiced at all in a month. Any coach who starts a franchise quarterback without being listed as Full in a single practice, coming off an injury like his, should be fired. Start Barkley if he is afraid to start Peterman. But do not risk the future of the Buffalo Bills so a 2-7 team can possibly win a game. If Allen plays and is injured, Fire McDermott on the airplane tarmac, just like the Raiders did to Kiffen. The fact McDermott hasn't already rule him out makes one wonder if he should be anything more than a defensive coordinator. This young player needs a full week of FULL practice before he should ever get back on the field against a real defense. You seem to be blending the worry of his injury with him maybe not having enough game prep. If he's healthy maybe not getting the full practices in the week make the game harder for him but that doesn't really have anything to do with his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kevin1778 said: Once again, if you are limited in practice you aren't fully healthy. what are you worried about? he wouldn't be the first player to play on sunday without full reps during the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) wait, let me put my shades on, the brilliance in this thread so far is blinding..... Edited November 10, 2018 by Foxx 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, klos63 said: what are you worried about? he wouldn't be the first player to play on sunday without full reps during the week. Because he is the franchise quarterback, not some linebacker. 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: You seem to be blending the worry of his injury with him maybe not having enough game prep. If he's healthy maybe not getting the full practices in the week make the game harder for him but that doesn't really have anything to do with his injury. Either way he doesn't need to play until after the bye when he has had some full practices. This is a 2-7 team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 He has been throwing a 100 passes a day all week. That is twice the amount he would throw in a game. Let him play at this point he needs the reps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Kevin1778 said: Because he is the franchise quarterback, not some linebacker. If he plays it comes down to: is he ready to go with limited practice time and two more days of rest - or are they playing him hurt because they're idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) Just now, Rebel101 said: He has been throwing a 100 passes a day all week. That is twice the amount he would throw in a game. Let him play at this point he needs the reps. In games they hit people. This isn't no contact practice. He has six games of reps left. Plenty. Edited November 10, 2018 by Kevin1778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 As much as I'd like to see Allen play somemore and hopefully progress, I would rather they wait til after the bye also and let him finish out the year and hopefully improve enough for us to be hopeful next season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: That's the coach's call. ..oh God not HIM............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Anybody who says somebody should be fired should be fired from this board. Silly! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: In games they hit people. This isn't no contact practice. If Allen is healthy I don't think limited game prep stops him from starting with our list of back-ups. I don't want them to get him a worse injury either but if he's healthy he plays, every rep counts. Edited November 10, 2018 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: In games they hit people. This isn't no contact practice. He has six games of reps left. Plenty. If his elbow is good enough to throw then he is good enough to get hit. The reason he was benched was because he couldn’t throw because of the injury. And he needs as many as he can get because he is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: If Allen is healthy I don't think limited game prep stops him from starting with our list of back-ups. I don't want them to get him a worse injury either but if he's healthy he plays, every rep counts. You want a guy who was your top 10 pick, who hasn't been hit in a month, who is coming off an injury to his throwing arm, to start a game for a 2-7 team when they have a bye next week? Insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Okay, how many threads is @Kevin1778 going to start trying to extend Peterman’s career? This entire season was about one thing, Josh Allen. If he is healthy enough to play, he plays. If he’s not, he doesn’t. It’s not even remotely complicated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Okay, how many threads is @Kevin1778 going to start trying to extend Peterman’s career? This entire season was about one thing, Josh Allen. If he is healthy enough to play, he plays. If he’s not, he doesn’t. It’s not even remotely complicated. I could care less if they cut Peterman. Start Barkley and use Pryor, Thomas, or anyone as the backup. I defend Peterman because Anderson's stats were 6 Turnovers and no TD's. People act like Peterman is the problem. He isn't. Edited November 10, 2018 by Kevin1778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: You want a guy who was your top 10 pick, who hasn't been hit in a month, who is coming off an injury to his throwing arm, to start a game for a 2-7 team when they have a bye next week? Insanity. What I said was if he's healthy he should play. If he's healthy he's just as likely to get injured in this game as any of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kevin1778 said: I could care less if they cut Peterman. Start Barkley and use Pryor, Thomas, or anyone as the backup. I defend Peterman because Anderson's stats were 6 Turnovers and no TD's. People act like Peterman is the problem. He isn't. The worst QB of all-time isn’t the problem on arguably the worst offense ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: What I said was if he's healthy he should play. If he's healthy he's just as likely to get injured in this game as any of the others. If he was healthy he wouldn't be limited in practice. Why is this so hard to understand? He needs to have a full practice before he starts a game. He has yet to have a full practice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: The worst QB of all-time isn’t the problem on arguably the worst offense ever? And his standard is to compare him to a crap career backup that was signed off the streets a month ago. Seems legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: And his standard is to compare him to a crap career backup that was signed off the streets a month ago. Seems legit. I can’t wait to see the next thread that he starts, “Tre White’s coverage is a bigger problem than Nathan Peterman.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: The worst QB of all-time isn’t the problem on arguably the worst offense ever? Did he play when they scored ZERO points against the Packers, or 5 points against the Colts? No. He is not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 “No. He is not the problem” ????????????♂️?♂️?♂️?♂️?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: Did he play when they scored ZERO points against the Packers, or 5 points against the Colts? No. He is not the problem. No, his 30.7 rating is elevating those around him. You’re right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: And his standard is to compare him to a crap career backup that was signed off the streets a month ago. Seems legit. Fine. Compare him to Allen and his ZERO points against the Packers. The quarterbacks are not the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 These kinds of threads only cause me stress.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: No, his 30.7 rating is elevating those around him. You’re right Like talking to a rock. You could put the top rated QB in the NFL behind center and this is still the worst offense in the NFL. Playing Allen tomorrow is insanity. And you don't have to play Peteman. Edited November 10, 2018 by Kevin1778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Fans are terrified that Allen may just not be very good. That's where this sentiment comes from. It would be in McDermott's best interest to shelve him as long as possible, so he deserves praise if he doesn't take the easy way out. The sooner we find out what we have, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, LSHMEAB said: Fans are terrified that Allen may just not be very good. That's where this sentiment comes from. It would be in McDermott's best interest to shelve him as long as possible, so he deserves praise if he doesn't take the easy way out. The sooner we find out what we have, the better. Not worried about him not being very good, worried about him getting injured behind a not very good line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 If he starts Peterman he should be put on the hot seat. I am being honest if it is Peterman I am not going to watch. I can't sit through that again. It will kill me not watching a Bills game but I am not willing to watch Peterman again. It is insulting to this fan base that he is even being considered as an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: Fine. Compare him to Allen and his ZERO points against the Packers. The quarterbacks are not the problem Right. Let’s compare a rookie traveling to lambeau and getting blanked to a guy that has thrown a historical % of interceptions per pass attempt. That makes sense. Good job buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 You should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: If he starts Peterman he should be put on the hot seat. I am being honest if it is Peterman I am not going to watch. I can't sit through that again. It will kill me not watching a Bills game but I am not willing to watch Peterman again. It is insulting to this fan base that he is even being considered as an option Last week I found yard work to do to get the place ready for winter. If peterman starts again, even with the 9 inches of snow due by morning...... I’ll find more yard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: Like talking to a rock. You could put the top rated QB in the NFL behind center and this is still the worst offense in the NFL. Talking to a rock?!! The QBs are on pace to throw 5 TDs and 28 INTs!! They are doing that in this era. You don’t believe that is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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