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This is a pretty darned good synopsis of the events since Saturday. I wonder if the Trump haters will learn from it?

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10 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

I'm trying to enlighten your racist, fascist, bigoted, xenophobic, islamaphobic, agoraphobic, actual, literal super mecha-Nazi ass, pal!

Thanks for looking out for me, but you should know a while back I chose a doctor who happened to be Muslim as my GP, and I've never been afraid of spiders.  I consider them nature's housekeepers.

 

Btw, the doc, a nice guy who left private practice a while back, used to share some stories about Afghanistan, his upbringing and the devastation to his county.  I always enjoy hearing about other cultures as it helps me to recognize how similar many of us are.  Anyway, I had a nasty infection in my finger, I went to see him and his initial response was "We have to deal with this today. I must warn you, this will not be unpainful.".  I processed that and asked "You're saying it's going to hurt?" and his reply was "Yes, quite badly.". Still makes me laugh and he spoke the truth. 

 

Facsists are people too. 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

This is a pretty darned good synopsis of the events since Saturday. I wonder if the Trump haters will learn from it?

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If they haven't learned in the past 3 years (which they haven't), then they never will.

 

The liberals are too short-sighted and focused on attacking Trump to avoid the incredibly obvious landmines Trump lays for them. They step on every single one.

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2 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

If they haven't learned in the past 3 years (which they haven't), then they never will.

 

The liberals are too short-sighted and focused on attacking Trump to avoid the incredibly obvious landmines Trump lays for them. They step on every single one.

 

And he’d lose a few limbs due to self inflicted land mines himself. 

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5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

And he’s lose a few limbs due to self inflicted land mines himself. 

 

True.

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3 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

True.

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but land mines are another matter. 

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


The tax fraud info has been posted somewhere in here ... as I remember it (search to confirm) she was not married to a man she was claiming was her spouse. I "think" (and this is where I may be wrong) she was still married to her brother at the time. 

Since she is a naturalized citizen, tax fraud and immigration fraud should get her a nice prison term. But, who knows it it will?

 

If there is proof she lied on her immigration paperwork prior to naturalization, it would be grounds to strip her citizenship if charges were brought and found guilty in federal court

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37 minutes ago, Whatnot78 said:

 

If there is proof she lied on her immigration paperwork prior to naturalization, it would be grounds to strip her citizenship if charges were brought and found guilty in federal court

 

It's not just right wingers pushing this story, her hometown paper has been digging for the past year. Here's a good primer: 

 

 

and this thread: 

 

All that said, I have no idea the legal consequences she'd face if any of this turns out to be true (which, with the documentation, sure seems likely).

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6 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

That's kind of sad if true.  She is a naturalized American citizen and chanting in favor of being deported back to her home country because you disagree with what she says seems unAmerican to me.   Even if she is a vile person.

 

Yelling 'send her back' is stupid on multiple levels, and I genuinely hope they'll knock it off because it's not who we are as a country.

 

But I find it funny that right-wing people at an amped up rally yelling 'send her back' is roundly criticized by some of the most right wing talking heads...yet when a far left guy charges an ICE facility with a gun while throwing flaming ***** at stuff, the left wing talking heads refuse to condemn it.

 

The four Maosketeers refused to condone it, in fact.

 

So both sides are crazy right now, but only one side seems willing to correct itself.

 

No surprise. Nothing new here. Just a reminder. That is all.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

 

All that said, I have no idea the legal consequences she'd face if any of this turns out to be true (which, with the documentation, sure seems likely).

 

If they have evidence of marriage and/or tax fraud that helped her gain citizenship and charges are brought forth...if found guilty, her citizenship would be stripped.  There has been a large increase in federal cases of citizenship fraud since it has been prioritized by Trump...

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/politics/citizenship-fraud-office/index.html

 

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6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's not just right wingers pushing this story, her hometown paper has been digging for the past year. Here's a good primer: 

 

 

and this thread: 

 

All that said, I have no idea the legal consequences she'd face if any of this turns out to be true (which, with the documentation, sure seems likely).

 

You continue to be full of feces.

 

Alpha News is not her hometown paper nor is it a paper at all. 

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13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's not just right wingers pushing this story, her hometown paper has been digging for the past year. Here's a good primer: 

 

 

and this thread: 

 

All that said, I have no idea the legal consequences she'd face if any of this turns out to be true (which, with the documentation, sure seems likely).

cmon DR...why do you do this stuff? You know damn well Alpha News is not any kind of hometown paper. 

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1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

cmon DR...why do you do this stuff? You know damn well Alpha News is not any kind of hometown paper. 

 

I don't know anything about Alpha News. I know the Star Tribune and multiple local reporters have been beating the bushes on this story for about a year, but never looked into it because she's pretty irrelevant to me. 

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

This is a pretty darned good synopsis of the events since Saturday. I wonder if the Trump haters will learn from it?

(long thread)

 

That's a pretty good thread. One of the things that frustrated me the most about Obama  -- and any long-time posters here know this -- is that he was brilliant walking the line between imply and infer. Whenever something negative was happening, he would say or do something that could mean many different things, but was ultimately inferred by the right to be the worst of those things.

 

The right would whip into a frenzy, and yell and scream and and whatever else was happening was forgotten in the fog of right-wing frenzy.

 

The are differences thought, not the least of which is right-wing agitators are small in number beyond whoever listens to Hannity every night. So the frenzy would die down relatively quickly. Obama still got his result though...distraction. Left-wing agitators, however, are much greater in number given they can draw a paycheck for their agitation, and with media assistance, the left-wing frenzy can have a longer, more violent burn because they're much better at organized agitation. The right is not near as organized.

 

I suspect Trump knows this. My concern is it doesn't take much, at this point, to trigger these nutbags to more violence, and I'm increasingly on the side that says a second Trump term will end with some bloody fights if the left doesn't get control of itself. 

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4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

If she became naturalized by banging her brother doesn't that invalidate it?

Wouldn't sex with her brother be the opposite of natural and be the basis for revoking her naturalization?

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23 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Yelling 'send her back' is stupid on multiple levels, and I genuinely hope they'll knock it off because it's not who we are as a country.

 

But I find it funny that right-wing people at an amped up rally yelling 'send her back' is roundly criticized by some of the most right wing talking heads...yet when a far left guy charges an ICE facility with a gun while throwing flaming ***** at stuff, the left wing talking heads refuse to condemn it.

 

The four Maosketeers refused to condone it, in fact.

 

So both sides are crazy right now, but only one side seems willing to correct itself.

 

No surprise. Nothing new here. Just a reminder. That is all.

Care to elaborate on who is correcting themselves?

 

Also, it is exactly who we are as a country....we love the policies, but we don't want all the nasty implications that come with them.  We see it over and over again, here.

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10 minutes ago, McGee Return TD said:

 

You continue to be full of feces.

 

Alpha News is not her hometown paper nor is it a paper at all. 

 

Could you just pick a freaking username and stick with it. 

 

I never understand the need to have more than one name. What in the hell motivates you to log in and out of different names?

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Just now, Buftex said:

Care to elaborate on who is correcting themselves?

 

Itself. Not themselves. The right, in general, may go down an embarrassing slope like yelling 'send her back,' but the right-wing talking heads are quick to condemn it to the extent that, most times, that type of stupidity stops. Just look at Ryan Saveedrea or Ben Shapiro...roundly criticizing this and calling it 'vile.'

 

They're not alone.

 

The right will wake up today about this event, and will be very likely to correct it at the next rally.

 

The left, on the other hand, would never do this because their talking heads never condemn anything the left does. Even the four Maosketeers refuse to condemn the attack on the ICE facility.  Ever see Rachel Maddow condemn something like the guy who attacked the ICE facility, or the leftists replacing of the American flag with a Mexican flag.

 

Of course not.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Could you just pick a freaking username and stick with it. 

 

I never understand the need to have more than one name. What in the hell motivates you to log in and out of different names?

 

Seconded. 

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Just now, BeginnersMind said:

 

Seconded. 

 

Okay. That was funny.

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14 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:

http://m.startribune.com/new-documents-revisit-questions-about-rep-ilhan-omar-s-marriage/511681362/

 

Here's the local newspaper getting pretty in depth about the research they've done.

good article there...interesting factoids all over the place.I do have one question, and i must be stupid as hell as it must be obviuos.

 

If the second guy was used for immigration purposes, and lets stipulate for argument its her brother, but she claims he is a Brtish citizen...i am just lost how this could help her gain citizenship in the US? What am I missing?

 

Found this funny

 

Omar declined to make her tax and immigration records available for this report.

10 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Itself. Not themselves. The right, in general, may go down an embarrassing slope like yelling 'send her back,' but the right-wing talking heads are quick to condemn it to the extent that, most times, that type of stupidity stops. Just look at Ryan Saveedrea or Ben Shapiro...roundly criticizing this and calling it 'vile.'

 

They're not alone.

 

The right will wake up today about this event, and will be very likely to correct it at the next rally.

 

The left, on the other hand, would never do this because their talking heads never condemn anything the left does. Even the four Maosketeers refuse to condemn the attack on the ICE facility.  Ever see Rachel Maddow condemn something like the guy who attacked the ICE facility, or the leftists replacing of the American flag with a Mexican flag.

 

Of course not.

 

 

I must say i do not listen to or read the right talking heads, nor the left either, so i will take your word the "send her back "  chants are being roundly criticized.Equally so I am not aware if the left is not condemning  the violence at the ICE facility, or any violence perpetrated by ANTIFA and their ilk. I would hope they do, but again will take your word for it.

 

Now I only hope Trump does not keep useing it as a political startegy. Sickened my stomach to see and read about that at the rally last night, hopefully folks will have your good sense and move on( did i really just say you have good sense?)

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21 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Itself. Not themselves. The right, in general, may go down an embarrassing slope like yelling 'send her back,' but the right-wing talking heads are quick to condemn it to the extent that, most times, that type of stupidity stops. Just look at Ryan Saveedrea or Ben Shapiro...roundly criticizing this and calling it 'vile.'

 

They're not alone.

 

The right will wake up today about this event, and will be very likely to correct it at the next rally.

 

The left, on the other hand, would never do this because their talking heads never condemn anything the left does. Even the four Maosketeers refuse to condemn the attack on the ICE facility.  Ever see Rachel Maddow condemn something like the guy who attacked the ICE facility, or the leftists replacing of the American flag with a Mexican flag.

 

Of course not.

 

 

Sorry, but pursing your lips and saying "tisk, tisk" isn't really correcting it.  It will stop, until the next Trump rally.  The scary thing, the crowd didn't really need Trump to start them with the chant this time.  Even his defenders are pointing that out, as if it is something to be proud of. His support among Republicans inches upwards every time there is some incident like this. He has successfully planted the seed for all of this..... You can't really take the high ground here.  He has been president for two and a half years, and this kind of stuff has only gotten worse...we will likely have 4 more years.  Is this really what anybody wants?

 

I agree, there is a large amount of stupidity on both sides of the aisle...but we have a leader, our elected president, who does absolutely nothing to discourage it. Whenever he makes even the faintest comment scolding this type of behavior, you can bet, like clockwork, within 24 hours he will send out a conflicting message, as if to say, "don't worry white America, I got your back"...he even talks extrapolates on his every move in public, as though this is all some big game to him... I get it, you love his economic plans, his stacking the courts in the favor of conservatives...but Republicans can't find a better person to do the same thing, without intentionally stirring up a hornets nest every time he opens his mouth?  He (and many of his supporters, who resent being called out on it) even brag about it.  It is sad that this is the best we can do.

 

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6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

If the second guy was used for immigration purposes, and lets stipulate for argument its her brother, but she claims he is a Brtish citizen...i am just lost how this could help her gain citizenship in the US? What am I missing?

 

It's not about her citizenship -- but her brother's/husband's. 

9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Now I only hope Trump does not keep useing it as a political startegy. Sickened my stomach to see and read about that at the rally last night, hopefully folks will have your good sense and move on( did i really just say you have good sense?)

 

Trump is going to keep using it because he doesn't see it as racist or xenophobic. He sees it as an issue of loyalty (which is his primary filter) and as a way to tie the party to their most extreme members. He's going to keep counter punching, it's what he does.

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13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Trump is going to keep using it because he doesn't see it as racist or xenophobic. He sees it as an issue of loyalty (which is his primary filter) and as a way to tie the party to their most extreme members. He's going to keep counter punching, it's what he does.

He is the oldest baby in the world.

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