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On 4/28/2016 at 7:09 PM, Tiberius said:

Better question is, how much is Hillary going to win by? She is obviously the only decent person in the race. Real leaders know how to control themselves. Hillary!!

 

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is like all them, too. Trump, Hillary, Jeff E, all the same! Heck, Hillary even murdered people! All unfit for office! 

 

 

Breaking News: Tiberius is still a ######. 

 

I didn't even have to work hard to find this. 

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But he never attended parties with sex traffickers! 

 

Obama, still the best recent president we have had. 

So much so, his chosen, can-t-miss-heiress-apparentess is resting comfortably after a coughing fit, with her legs up in Chappaqua, and the voters sent his nemesis to the White House to place his legacy achievements in the dumpster. He trashed 45 (then, of course, known only as the guy BO said would never be president), but when you send boatloads of cash to your buddies who blow up people, you lose some credibility. 

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Just now, njbuff said:

 

He's was the worst President this country has ever seen by a country mile.

 

 

I'm not saying he was or wasn't but the current President doesn't smoke, drink or curse...and he is doing a thankless job for zero salary.  But apparently 'tweeting' has become a worse offense.

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4 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

I won't argue against any of this, but what's the solution?

 

He's proposed zero immigration reform policy, which means the kids will continue coming, they'll remain in cages, and 2/3 will keep getting separated from their parents.

 

Trump can talk tough, but it will be policy that helps solve the matter and he doesn't have any idea or plan on how to fix things because the vast majority of these people arrive at legal ports of entry and overstay their visas. 

 

The solution is multi-faceted: 

1) Stop incentivizing illegal crossings, which is what the entire left's rhetoric is built on at the moment. 

2) Change the law to say children won't be separated from those adults who can prove their relationship (either DNA or documentation). 

3) Fund the wall (which isn't a full wall, but strategic sections need to be built to fight trafficking and funnel bad actors to better covered areas). 

 

The vast majority do not cross at ports of entries, that's erroneous (I know, I've been to the border several times to see first hand). No one wants to prevent legal asylum from being declared, no one wants to stop immigration. But what's happening now is by design. 

 

Design by politicians (on both sides of the aisle) who have proffited for years from the smuggling and trafficking networks on the southern border. That's why no one has tried to fix it -- they don't want to fix it. It's too much money for them to have that motivation. 

 

Which is why we should be paying attention to who exactly is protesting family separation and incentivizing illegal crossing. They are making themselves VERY easy to identify these days. Then dig into their finances and I bet you'll find PRI money. 

 

(and ahead of time, :beer: for the good conversation today jrober )

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16 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Hey just checking back.  I may have missed your response.  You can agree that telling someone to go back to their country of origin has nothing to do with race right?  

 

Trump said their countries were corrupt, inept, catastrophes and in doing so, he was referring to America. And when he told them to "go back" there, he was telling them to go back to America. And though this language has a long history of association with race, in Trump's case, he was telling them to go back to their "country of origin," in this case, America. 

 

QEDumb. 

 

Not a strong position kemosabe. 

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32 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

He doesn't do that though.

 

He can't help himself from talking about immigration which excites his base but gets him no where with independents. 

 

When Trump is off script at rallies or in future debates, he always goes for the red meat. He's never been able to stay on message without a teleprompter. 

  Don't be surprised if Trump changes tactics.  Even the town know-it-all knows when it is time for a change.  Trump had no track record in politics when he ran in 2016 but now he does.  

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Now calling people communists, even actual communists, is racist. 

 

:lol: 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Now calling people communists, even actual communists, is racist. 

 

:lol: 

 

She and the squad are on Trump's payroll. They are doing more for his reelection than anyone. 

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6 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Trump said their countries were corrupt, inept, catastrophes and in doing so, he was referring to America. And when he told them to "go back" there, he was telling them to go back to America. And though this language has a long history of association with race, in Trump's case, he was telling them to go back to America. 

 

QEDumb. 

 

Not a strong position kemosabe. 

 

So you got nothing linking what he said to racism.  Thought so. Carry on.  

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Just now, Chef Jim said:

 

So you got nothing linking what he said to racism.  Thought so. Carry on.  

 

It's good that you gave up on this track Jim. With age comes wisdom. 

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13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I'm not saying he was or wasn't but the current President doesn't smoke, drink or curse...and he is doing a thankless job for zero salary.  But apparently 'tweeting' has become a worse offense.

 

To be fair, he has cursed.

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13 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

To be fair, he has cursed.

 

not like Hillary

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24 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

I agree. He has tons to talk about, but he has never been able to stay on message.

 

For 3 plus years now, Trump gets off on firing up his base, and to do that and have crowds cheering for him at his rallies, he's forced to talk to them about immigration because that's the red meat his base eats up.

 

If Trump could stay on message, and just talk about the things you just listed, his approval rating would be considerably higher. But he can't, and he never will, because that's not who he is and it's not why he got elected in the first place. 

I'm not looking to be adversarial, but take this for what you consider it worth: 

 

You are 100%, almost inconceivably, wrong about what he says and how often he says it.  I would attribute that to listening only to voices that sound like yours, or the fact that you're my old buddy Smitty the practical joker. 

 

His approval rating is impacted in large part because there is a chorus of voices screaming in unsion "JOKE", then "RACIST" then "SEXUAL PREDATOR", then "TAX CHEAT" then "TREASON" then "OBSTRUCTOR" and now back "SEXUAL PREDATOR".  All of this, btw, wrapped up in the theory  that he can't stay on message. Soundbite tyranny. 

 

And, imo, I think of people like  you as "extended warranty" voters, buying what's sold without even questioning the cost or the value of the purchase. 

 

That last part probably sounds adversarial, but it isn't. Some people find comfort in the extended warranty. 

 

Btw--on my comment on soundbites, I get the argument that Trump causes some of that. I don't disagree, my point is only that is not ALL  he does.

 

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jrober, Trump is not going to change many minds who are against him

 

at least not tell the rigged polls this

 

they will show up and pull the lever for him on election day

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Design by politicians (on both sides of the aisle) who have proffited for years from the smuggling and trafficking networks on the southern border. That's why no one has tried to fix it -- they don't want to fix it. It's too much money for them to have that motivation. 

 

 

Particularly this.  I mean, there have been arrests for slavery in the news in the past two years.  Do people just forget about that?  There's a huge market for cheap, exploitable, undocumented labor.  

 

Anyone who's for open borders and against reforming immigration law basically supports slavery.  The fact that, in 30 years, very few have made a serious attempt (basically Bush II, and Trump) is very telling.

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the question is whether Trump can bring Congress along with him, other GOPs couldn't do it their two terms

 

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45 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Remember, 1/3rd of every kid brought over the border with a sponsor was found to be with strangers. Coyotes and smugglers. 1/3.

 

So what do they do with the remaining 2/3 of every kid?

 

Also, which 1/3 of each child? Upper? Lower? Middle? Some chop suey?

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1 minute ago, Koko78 said:

 

So what do they do with the remaining 2/3 of every kid?

 

Also, which 1/3 of each child? Upper? Lower? Middle? Some chop suey?

 

"Taco Bell is people!"

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4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

"Taco Bell is people!"

 

They even occasionally meet the legal definition of 'meat'.

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5 hours ago, jrober38 said:

 

Ugh.

 

Telling someone to "go back where they came from" insinuates they're not welcome, and that they're different. 

 

As I said, why has Trump never once told Bernie Sanders to "go back"? Why did he just focus on four female minorities?

 

That's where the prejudice kicks in, which makes it a racism comment. If Trump told everyone who complained to go back where they came from, you might have a point, but the fact that his prejudices forced him to single out four minority women is why the comment IS racist.

 

They look different, therefore I believe they must be from somewhere else (3 of the 4 were born in the US), therefore my comment is a racist remark. 

 

If you just focus a specific attack on minorities, and not people like Bernie who share their beliefs but look like you look, that's where the racism develops.

 

Like I said, if I said that in my work place, I WOULD BE FIRED because the comment is racist. 

 

Everything you said about the women is true. Congressmen or women can get away with extreme views because they represent such a small population. Donald Trump is supposed to represent all 330 million Americans. 

i'm no fan of the Bern but he doesn't hold a candle to the rhetoric the squad members spew in Trump and America's direction. this is why they were the recipients of his tweeted ire. nothing more.

 

 

5 hours ago, jrober38 said:

 

I don't buy it.

 

Trump says if anyone doesn't like it, they can leave and go back where they came from.

 

There's no reason Trump should only be singling out minorities with that take.

could this have been directed at the Bern?

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5 hours ago, McGee Return TD said:

 

oh no!

 

say it isn't so... a former Tx. judge is leaving the GOP... whatever shall we do?

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36 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Now calling people communists, even actual communists, is racist. 

 

:lol: 

In the Army, we would prescribe "remedial training" to slow soldiers who just didnt get it...

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35 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Trump said their countries were corrupt, inept, catastrophes and in doing so, he was referring to America. And when he told them to "go back" there, he was telling them to go back to America. And though this language has a long history of association with race, in Trump's case, he was telling them to go back to their "country of origin," in this case, America. 

 

QEDumb. 

 

Not a strong position kemosabe. 

Tell me you didn't just use an offensive term misappropriated in a 50s era sitcom where the occupying villain was portrayed as a noble hero and the native son a subservient second fiddle in a serious conversation about racism in America?  

 

I am renaming you go Beginner Enabler. 

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4 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Seriously...how goddamned difficult is it for House Democrats to respond to Trump's bull#### with "Yeah, Donald, whatever."  

 

He thrives on this *****.  Don't take him seriously, he doesn't thrive.  Don't let him drive the conversation.  How hard is that?  What the ***** is wrong with these idiots that they can't figure this out?

ummm... i'll take, 'What are Democrats'  for $2000, Alex. 

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