plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, /dev/null said: whenever Trump does some stupid stuff on Twitter I remind myself that Hiliary Clinton is still not President I just don't know how yall total dismiss everything he says on twitter as "Trump being Trump"..anYall kill @Tiberius for what he says on social media...whats the difference? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Nice of Hillary to come out of her spider web corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I just don't know how yall total dismiss everything he says on twitter as "Trump being Trump"..anYall kill @Tiberius for what he says on social media...whats the difference? I don't think people dismiss it as much as you think. I've said multiple times (and others even more) that he's his own worst enemy at times on Twitter. It's also a powerful tool he's wielding -- so pro/con. IMO 7 times out of 10 the most "outlandish" tweets serve as a shiny object to draw the spotlight away from elsewhere. 3 times out of 10 it's a self-inflicted wound / stepping on a rake. It bothers a lot of people -- but the pros have outweighed the cons thus far. Mainly because, and I know you'll disagree, those who are less bothered by it don't believe there's a racist motivation behind the *****-ups. It's either a more complicated/nuanced issue inartfully stated or his narcissism/ego getting the better of his twitter thumbs. Which, on both counts, really is nothing unexpected. (because he's Trump -- same as he always has been) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I would make sure AOC is on the news every night to tear the Dems to shreds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, Cinga said: that is funny. however, proper usage of words and the correct spelling prevents it being diminished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: So, the moderate and radical dems in the House were busy tearing each other apart and you just gave them a reason to come together. Bold strategy Cotton. Come together under a socialist agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Come together under a socialist agenda? All 5 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Too bad that he picked this fight because there's an awesome fake meme going around today about Trump warning people not to storm Area 51 because he deported all aliens 2 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Not reading the last few pages but I bet the typical BillsChaners are defending the #RacistInChief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 The President should tear them to shreds. I, along with the rest of American citizens, are TIRED of the race card being dropped on us every time these radical idiots TRY and debate something. The President, in his own way, is telling these morons to shove their racism up their asses, just like I have been saying. Until they keep their mouths shut with their racist bvllshit, there is NEVER any reason to have a conversation with these radical pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I don't think people dismiss it as much as you think. I've said multiple times (and others even more) that he's his own worst enemy at times on Twitter. It's also a powerful tool he's wielding -- so pro/con. IMO 7 times out of 10 the most "outlandish" tweets serve as a shiny object to draw the spotlight away from elsewhere. 3 times out of 10 it's a self-inflicted wound / stepping on a rake. It bothers a lot of people -- but the pros have outweighed the cons thus far. Mainly because, and I know you'll disagree, those who are less bothered by it don't believe there's a racist motivation behind the *****-ups. It's either a more complicated/nuanced issue inartfully stated or his narcissism/ego getting the better of his twitter thumbs. Which, on both counts, really is nothing unexpected. (because he's Trump -- same as he always has been) at some point ya call a cigar a cigar...he has tweeted racist things for three years..this one possibly the most blatant " brown people are not part of my America"..go back from where you came"! You always claim people with TDS cant see the forest for the trees, and it sure seems that goes both ways. If you cannot see this as a racist, baiting tweet, and call him out for it, i am lost. This is just pure red meat to his base, and if posting racist tweets is okay as a political strategy i think we have truly entered the 4th circle..and this guy is driving us there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 They’ve now hammered Biden and Pelosi as racists, the word means nothing now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, McGee Return TD said: Not reading the last few pages but I bet the typical BillsChaners are defending the #RacistInChief You can shove your racism up your ass too. Until you have anything to contribute, other than your tired racist act, come talk to us. Tired of you azzholes bringing up the darn race card on every turn. Tired of it. Like it has been said before.................... If everything is racist, then nothing is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: The President should tear them to shreds. I, along with the rest of American citizens, are TIRED of the race card being dropped on us every time these radical idiots TRY and debate something. The President, in his own way, is telling these morons to shove their racism up their asses, just like I have been saying. Until they keep their mouths shut with their racist bvllshit, there is NEVER any reason to have a conversation with these radical pricks. You are a brainwashed moron 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: You can shove your racism up your ass too. Until you have anything to contribute, other than your tired racist act, come talk to us. Tired of you azzholes bringing up the darn race card on every turn. Tired of it. Like it has been said before.................... If everything is racist, then nothing is racist. lol Read what you are writing. You might need to actually be committed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, McGee Return TD said: You are a brainwashed moron Yeah, ok Sparky. I have a brain (unlike you) and I don't need anyone to form my opinions for me. Brainwashed are you people on the left, so don't be throwing any stones in your glass house buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Let’s not fight peace love understanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: Let’s not fight peace love understanding This is a foreign concept to people on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: This is a foreign concept to people on the left. Maybe if we were more nice to them they would feel more like belonging to the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: This is a foreign concept to people on the left. Quote You can shove your racism up your ass too. Until you have anything to contribute, other than your tired racist act, come talk to us. Tired of you azzholes bringing up the darn race card on every turn. Tired of it. yep, sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: Maybe if we were more nice to them they would feel more like belonging to the USA I tried the NICE card. Didn't work. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: I tried the NICE card. Didn't work. ? so you really think a POTUS telling brown people who oppose his views to " go back where you came from" is what MAGA stands for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: so you really think a POTUS telling brown people who oppose his views to " go back where you came from" is what MAGA stands for? I guess you forgot the part where he says they should come back and tell us how it's done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Trump is anointing them as leaders of the Dem Party nobody else seems to have an idea or clue for that Party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Yeah, ok Sparky. I have a brain (unlike you) and I don't need anyone to form my opinions for me. Brainwashed are you people on the left, so don't be throwing any stones in your glass house buddy. So, you're admitting he has a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: So, you're admitting he has a brain. What kind of a brain is it? I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: so you really think a POTUS telling brown people who oppose his views to " go back where you came from" is what MAGA stands for? 3 minutes ago, njbuff said: What kind of a brain is it? I have no idea. One that has trouble with how acronyms work apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: at some point ya call a cigar a cigar...he has tweeted racist things for three years..this one possibly the most blatant " brown people are not part of my America"..go back from where you came"! You always claim people with TDS cant see the forest for the trees, and it sure seems that goes both ways. If you cannot see this as a racist, baiting tweet, and call him out for it, i am lost. This is just pure red meat to his base, and if posting racist tweets is okay as a political strategy i think we have truly entered the 4th circle..and this guy is driving us there “Aww shucks that’s just Trump being Trump. Wacky guy. “ Says DR. “What’s a little blatant anti-brown people talk from the president?” Personally, I can’t stand AOC and her re-elect Trump gang. But it’s not because I’m racist. Trump on the other hand decided race was the way to go. He didn’t misspeak. He wasn’t subtle. Just went for it. I’ve not called his statements racist or dog whistling before, but this one leaves no room for discussion. billsChan won’t care. He’s the (meaning now changing?) white knight. See last 3 pages. Edited July 15, 2019 by BeginnersMind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 if one wants to take one-third of an extended tweet out of the entire context, sure, you might be able to lay claim to racism. however, this is a time worn tactic for those whose have an ax to grind. placed in it's proper context though, you can not claim racism, it is disingenuous at best. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Foxx said: if one wants to take one-third of an extended tweet out of the entire context, sure, you might be able to lay claim to racism. however, this is a time worn tactic for those whose have an ax to grind. placed in it's proper context though, you can not claim racism, it is disingenuous at best. Context he says. Nah. Can’t call this a racist statement. You just can’t criticize him. “So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world, now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, BeginnersMind said: Context he says. Nah. Can’t call this a racist statement. You just can’t criticize him. “So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world, now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.” you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: you're an idiot. Run away from the “context” of his racist statement. Isn’t it time for you to bring up Epstein? Or Hillary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Context he says. Nah. Can’t call this a racist statement. You just can’t criticize him. “So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world, now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.” If he changed the word "countries" to "states" he could have been talking about Pelosi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: If he changed the word "countries" to "states" he could have been talking about Pelosi. De———flected. Nice save. B-Man can post a meme, DR a Twitter opinion from some guy, and this just goes away. It’s cool. My grandfather was a racist and I loved him. But maybe I would call him on it if he was president. Hillary! Merkel shakes! Alien patents! 17! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: De———flected. Nice save. B-Man can post a meme, DR a Twitter opinion from some guy, and this just goes away. It’s cool. My grandfather was a racist and I loved him. But maybe I would call him on it if he was president. Hillary! Merkel shakes! Alien patents! 17! Commies of all races are woefully misguided or highly deceptive. The end result is always the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Context he says. Nah. Can’t call this a racist statement. You just can’t criticize him. “So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world, now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.” Three of the four he's referring to were born in the US. Is this a subtle shot at Ford, Reagan, and HW? All this guy has to do is let the Dems destroy themselves with infighting and he'll cruise to reelection with how good the economy is right now. Somebody take his phone away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, Foxx said: if one wants to take one-third of an extended tweet out of the entire context, sure, you might be able to lay claim to racism. however, this is a time worn tactic for those whose have an ax to grind. placed in it's proper context though, you can not claim racism, it is disingenuous at best. Not sure what context is lost at all. I do believe Trump is flesh and blood like the rest of us, and he makes mistakes and has deep character flaws. It’s okay to say that and still believe in his policies 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Three of the four he's referring to were born in the US. Is this a subtle shot at Ford, Reagan, and HW? All this guy has to do is let the Dems destroy themselves with infighting and he'll cruise to reelection with how good the economy is right now. Somebody take his phone away. Confused on this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Not sure what context is lost at all. I do believe Trump is flesh and blood like the rest of us, and he makes mistakes and has deep character flaws. It’s okay to say that and still believe in his policies When he does something inarguably offensive, “Hillary” is the response. billsChan has a narrative to follow. 11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Three of the four he's referring to were born in the US. Is this a subtle shot at Ford, Reagan, and HW? All this guy has to do is let the Dems destroy themselves with infighting and he'll cruise to reelection with how good the economy is right now. Somebody take his phone away. This tweet won’t matter to the base. He’s gone after POWs for being prisoners and gold star families. A shot at brown folks won’t move the needle. Edited July 15, 2019 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Not sure what context is lost at all. I do believe Trump is flesh and blood like the rest of us, and he makes mistakes and has deep character flaws. It’s okay to say that and still believe in his policies ... perhaps one might be able to explain exactly how this is racist. "... Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Foxx said: perhaps one might be able to explain exactly how this is racist. "... Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.” What happened to your context bona fides? Did you forget the sentence before? Here let me paste it for you: “So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe,” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said: What happened to your context bona fides? Did you forget the sentence before? Here let me paste it for you: “So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe,” How does race play a role in any government being a complete and total catastrophe? If you think it does, you are the racist. It doesn't. There is only one letter in Trump's tweet that indicates bias. Hint: it's the letter e. That bias could be considered ideological, nationalistic or xenophobic but hardly racist if you're being truthful. The problem is those other words don't trigger enough people so the inaccurate word racist is a must. You accused me of deflection earlier but commies like you use it regularly. When they are criticized, let's talk about a progressive's race, gender, religion, sexual orientation or any other singular point of emphasis and use it to deflect. Deflect away from the fact that their ideology fails. Deflect toward the fact that every person has flaws but that those who disagree with the ideology must have their flaws pointed out and used to advance the failed ideology. Trump was certainly inarticulate and inaccurate in his tweet. He was also correct about ideologies that always fail. But by all means I suppose we should focus on how polite someone is when deciding the ideology that will define our future. Then we should let commies define what is polite. That'll work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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