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Illegally launching yourself into a defenseless player: Refs ignore Edelman —- but the league fines him


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1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said:

They did the same to KB. Gilly was whining about a phantom OPI, and a play or two later, voila!

The refs missed a lot of mugging on both sides. Gronk was being mugged On the catch on the sideline and Clay? Had his armed clearly held when he didn’t hold onto the TD.  Those are just two of many.. they seem to be letting the mugging go lately.

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The next kick he tried to call a fair catch on someone should have just speared him or took out his knees or head after he caught it. Take the penalty and I'm sure thousands of Bill's fans will take up a fund to pay the fine. 

 

The guy calls for a fair catch, then just before let's the ball go past him as the Bill's player is holding up so he wont make contact with him, then Edelman launches himself head first into the Bill's players helmet (not putting his hands up to stop or prevent him from contact, or get out of the way) trying to hit someone who was trying to hold up and not make contact with you. Classy NE/Boston way........

 

It was disappointing to see William's get back and sack Brady, but lay him down nicely instead of going through him. Almost as bad as seeing the multiple shots of Kelly all over Brady during warmups before the game.

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13 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lol your post was screaming “fight me” but I’m not going to. Dead horse means the debate and time talk about them is done.. now if you found anything else I said wrong and like talk about it as two rational adults go for it. :)

There’s nothing to “fight” about,  my post screams exactly this:  the patriots have the best coach ever.  The best qb ever and lots of super bowl rings.  Fans get to enjoy those elements and talk about it to everyone.  The pats also cheated.  Multiple times, and got caught doing so.  Fans have to own those elements and deal with people talking about it.  You certainly still talk about how good you have been.  As long as you talk about being great and winning Super Bowls, others will talk about you cheating to help you get there.  If the pats having a great team isn’t a dead horse than why would the pats cheating be a dead horse?  Just take it.  

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8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

It’s a dead horse when you’re a pats fan.  The rest of the world still calls you the cheatriots,  you’re the most hated team in the league,  because you cheat and because you have players that love to take cheap shots at other players on the reg.

 

it is what it is,  you get your props for having the best coach ever and the best qb ever.  And they cheated on their way.  Multiple times

It's a dead horse when the other person has no other way to defend it or response and just wants to drop it. Much easier to just claim that your beating a dead horse then come up with factual evidence to combat the other side in the arguement....

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7 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

They did the same to KB. Gilly was whining about a phantom OPI, and a play or two later, voila!

I believe it was also DPI on the overturned Croom TD. I’m sure they saw it during the review, but you can’t call a penalty after review

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Just now, apuszczalowski said:

It's a dead horse when the other person has no other way to defend it or response and just wants to drop it. Much easier to just claim that your beating a dead horse then come up with factual evidence to combat the other side in the arguement....

Or just taking it like a man.  #bostonstrong

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I wonder if there is any way that the Bills can bring this up to the NFL in some way & have him at the very least fined for the hit ?

 

They talk a big game about doing away with head trauma but this was blatantly a targeted thing it looks as if he first eyes him up then lowers his head intentionally & launches into him & i don't know how any one could see that any different unless they are playing favorites !! 

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10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I believe it was also DPI on the overturned Croom TD. I’m sure they saw it during the review, but you can’t call a penalty after review

It was definitely interference.

 

The refs didn't cost us this game. It wasn't egregiously officiated, but they definitely make sure the Pats get the 50/50 calls.

 

What irks me as much if not more than bad calls is when officials succumb to pressure/whining and end up calling something on the next play. If you're an official, your job is to dispassionately call the game. 

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1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said:

It was definitely interference.

 

The refs didn't cost us this game. It wasn't egregiously officiated, but they definitely make sure the Pats get the 50/50 calls.

 

What irks me as much if not more than bad calls is when officials succumb to pressure/whining and end up calling something on the next play. If you're an official, you're job is to dispassionately call the game. 

Of course not, it was the 2 turnovers. But it’s still awful to see some of this.

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There really is no excuse for the missed call.  It’s not like a missed holding call where the ref has a bunch of things to have to monitor.

 

I hope the shoe is on the other foot one of these days.  Tough trying to beat a superior team AND the officials, twice a year.

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13 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

 

What irks me as much if not more than bad calls is when officials succumb to pressure/whining and end up calling something on the next play. If you're an official, your job is to dispassionately call the game. 

 

not at all, the better team creates more interest in the game and gets nuance on the rules

 

 

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4 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

He's a huge douche. Who is completely replaceable and nothing special. 

 

They should have this call. For such a seemingly concrete rule book the calls are inconsistent anyway. 

 

“Unsportsmanlike conduct.... on the receiving team.... for being a douchbag.... half the distance to the goal and a putative kick to the nuts” 

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3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

They should have this call. For such a seemingly concrete rule book the calls are inconsistent anyway. 

 

“Unsportsmanlike conduct.... on the receiving team.... for being a douchbag.... half the distance to the goal and a putative kick to the nuts” 

 

I love it. This would be the rule to finally end the Patriots reign of terror. Just like holding, you'd be able to call it on every play. 

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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

They should have this call. For such a seemingly concrete rule book the calls are inconsistent anyway. 

 

“Unsportsmanlike conduct.... on the receiving team.... for being a douchbag.... half the distance to the goal and a putative kick to the nuts” 

He would get flagged every team he obnoxiously signals 1st down 

 

did you catch on the pregame show how he calls tom Brady “Babe”? Wtf

 

Edelman: ”He’s a ‘Baber’”

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37 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

The refs missed a lot of mugging on both sides. Gronk was being mugged On the catch on the sideline and Clay? Had his armed clearly held when he didn’t hold onto the TD.  Those are just two of many.. they seem to be letting the mugging go lately.

 

Nothing influences these match ups more than how the WR DB interactions are called.  It’s crazy how inconsistent it is from game to game and how it completely changes the competitive landscape week to week , crew to crew.

 

I’m flexible on the less contact allowed or more,  but just wish it would be consistent through the season. 

 

Im also really not sure what illegal formation stuff adds to the game. There are 11 men on both sides.  Let them stand where they want before the snap

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He would get flagged every team he obnoxiously signals 1st down 

 

did you catch on the pregame show how he calls tom Brady “Babe”? Wtf

 

Edelman: ”He’s a ‘Baber’”

 

I saw that. Also it was reference to Brady apparent calling everyone ‘babe’.  Hence him saying Brady is a ‘baber’.

 

i wanted that win almost as much as Jax last year. 

 

So disappointed they had that shot to blow tommy up on that 7 yard scramble and Tre whiffed. Would have been even better vengence  for the gronk hit than hitting gronk. 

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4 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

How did they ignore it? He got called for a personal foul for it?? Not sure what else you expected to happen by the refs.

 

unlike Gronk who did his idiocy way after the play was done, Edelman was during the play and seeing as both their heads knocked together I don’t BELIEVE he was trying for helmet to helmet.. but again it was called.

It's not that they ignored it, it's that we believe they ignored the severity of the hit. In real time it may not look it, but clearly Edelman calls for the fair catch, abandons the catch and literally launches into Pitts leading with his helmet, hitting Pitts straight in the facemask. Regardless of whether he was trying for the helmet or not, it's highly suspect a more severe penalty wasn't levied. 

 

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2 hours ago, Talonz said:

How doesn't he get tossed for that?   That was such a blatant helmet to helmet that there should of been no doubt an ejection was warranted.   Pitts could have easily got a concussion from this.  

 

My hate for the Patriots goes so beyond them just kicking our ass every year.   I can't stand to watch them, no matter how good they are, and I am someone who appreciates good football no matter the team, especially since Buffalo has been what they've been for going on two decades...

which includes the vast majority of Pats fans who travel in groups in Buffalo

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