dollars 2 donuts Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) (Sorry, just bored) Everything: coaches, players, ball boys, the works. We are talking the Bills in exchange for either: Atlanta 3-4 Dallas 3-4 Detroit 3-4 Tamp Bay 3-4 Tennessee 3-4 Denver 3-5 Indy 3-5 Jacksonville 3-5 Jets 3-5 Browns 2-5-1 Cards 2-6 Oakland 1-6 Giants 1-7 San Fran 1-7 San Fran is tempting because of Jimmy Grapes and I have a soft spot for Detroit. However, I am going to go with either Indy or the Browns. Sure, the Browns have coaching problems now, but that is about to get cleared up and they have a nice young team. As far as Indy, Luck obviously seems to be getting better as they are putting up points nicely. I like Reich and don't look now, but if they stay hot there is a chance that this former 1-5 team could catch Houston. Edited October 29, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Indy, Browns or Atl... 2 Years ago I said the Browns; Hue should have been tossed out with Sachi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Indy, Browns or Atl... 2 Years ago I said the Browns; Hue should have been tossed out with Sachi Edit: I know the Falcons have Ryan and Julio, but man Reed, that defense scares me and they are 19th in the League in cap space in 2018 and 2019. Edited October 29, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, dollars 2 donuts said: I know the Falcons have Ryan and Julio, but man Reed, that defense scares me and they are 19th in the League in cap space in 2019 and 2020. All about the QB, quick tear down and a quick rebuild... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I’d take the Browns with a competent HC.. that team be scary scary good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: (Sorry, just bored) Everything: coaches, players, ball boys, the works. We are talking the Bills in exchange for either: Atlanta 3-4 Dallas 3-4 Detroit 3-4 Tamp Bay 3-4 Tennessee 3-4 Denver 3-5 Indy 3-5 Jacksonville 3-5 Jets 3-5 Browns 2-5-1 Cards 2-6 Oakland 1-6 Giants 1-7 San Fran 1-7 San Fran is tempting because of Jimmy Grapes and I have a soft spot for Detroit. However, I am going to go with either Indy or the Browns. Sure, the Browns have coaching problems now, but that is about to get cleared up and they have a nice young team. As far as Indy, Luck obviously seems to be getting better as they are putting up points nicely. I like Reich and don't look now, but if they stay hot there is a chance that this former 1-5 team could catch Houston. For me I would go Indy, Jacksonville, or Browns. I like what the Browns appear to be building talent-wise. Indy has luck. Jacksonville is on a down year from last year but their D has talent everywhere and if good Bortles shows up or they get an upgrade at QB they could be good consistently. Picking just one, I would go Browns. Lots of D-talent and Mayfield seems like a stud in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Altanta. They are only 3-4 because they have lost a load of key defensive pieces to injury plus Freeman. Shame because I think this was the last year of their window. They will need to have a mini rebuild in the offseason though there are a few easy cap casualties that are not going to be totally irreplaceable. That said I am not a massive Dan Quinn guy. I like their front office I think they have built two really good teams since they got in there. They have just never found the right coach to make it count. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: For me I would go Indy, Jacksonville, or Browns. I like what the Browns appear to be building talent-wise. Indy has luck. Jacksonville is on a down year from last year but their D has talent everywhere and if good Bortles shows up or they get an upgrade at QB they could be good consistently. Picking just one, I would go Browns. Lots of D-talent and Mayfield seems like a stud in the making. Thing is Johnny J'Ville has no QB if Bortles doesn't show up, plus they current have 6 million in cap space now, which goes 13 million over the cap in 2020. 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Altanta. They are only 3-4 because they have lost a load of key defensive pieces to injury plus Freeman. Shame because I think this was the last year of their window. They will need to have a mini rebuild in the offseason though there are a few easy cap casualties that are not going to be totally irreplaceable. That said I am not a massive Dan Quinn guy. I like their front office I think they have built two really good teams since they got in there. They have just never found the right coach to make it count. Gunner, what would you do to turn it around quickly for them, rather the brand new Buffalo Bills, in 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Browns? Remember all the people on here making fun of them before the season? What a comedy. Like all the people who hated tyrod. Yup. It can always get worse. 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Altanta. They are only 3-4 because they have lost a load of key defensive pieces to injury plus Freeman. Shame because I think this was the last year of their window. They will need to have a mini rebuild in the offseason though there are a few easy cap casualties that are not going to be totally irreplaceable. That said I am not a massive Dan Quinn guy. I like their front office I think they have built two really good teams since they got in there. They have just never found the right coach to make it count. Watch the falcons rebuild. I bet they don’t end up without a qb half way thru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Browns. They're at least entertaining to watch this year. The Bills are like watching pus drain out of a boil... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Browns. They're at least entertaining to watch this year. The Bills are like watching pus drain out of a boil... Ya know, Tom, I'd do some of what the Bills are planning on doing (hopefully), I would draft or sign 3 offensive linemen and bring in one more receiver. One of those young offensive guru coaches would love to take a shot at having Landry, Mayfield, Callaway, Njoku. Pick up a RB later in the draft to challenge or support Chubb a bit, keep shoring up a reasonably good defense and smartly figure out how to spend some of those $81 million dollars they have next year and I think you'd have something special. Edited October 29, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Browns all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Gunner, what would you do to turn it around quickly for them, rather the brand new Buffalo Bills, in 2019? Cut Sanu (you still have Jones and Ridley pretty strong there) Cut Brooks Reed and Jack Crawford and extend Vic Beasley (thereby reducing Beasley's cap hit under the 5th year option he is slated for currently and you still have decent starters at DE with Beasley and McKinley) Just doing those things gets you to about $45m of cap space without needing to lose a single key player. You still want more space? They can get younger at their specialist positions (bot their kicker and punter make good salaries - that would free up another $2m each) and more extreme cutting Robert Alford their 2nd corner would save a further $7.2m and they have a 2nd round pick from this last draft sitting behind him groomed to take over - which makes me believe that this is actually their plan. Get everyone healthy, draft or sign another defensive back, another linebacker and a guard and I could easily see the Falcons contending next year. Oh I'd fire the coach too. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 40 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: (Sorry, just bored) Everything: coaches, players, ball boys, the works. We are talking the Bills in exchange for either: Atlanta 3-4 Dallas 3-4 Detroit 3-4 Tamp Bay 3-4 Tennessee 3-4 Denver 3-5 Indy 3-5 Jacksonville 3-5 Jets 3-5 Browns 2-5-1 Cards 2-6 Oakland 1-6 Giants 1-7 San Fran 1-7 San Fran is tempting because of Jimmy Grapes and I have a soft spot for Detroit. However, I am going to go with either Indy or the Browns. Sure, the Browns have coaching problems now, but that is about to get cleared up and they have a nice young team. As far as Indy, Luck obviously seems to be getting better as they are putting up points nicely. I like Reich and don't look now, but if they stay hot there is a chance that this former 1-5 team could catch Houston. Trade rosters straight up? Atlanta, Dallas, Detroit is close but Stafford is better than anything we've had since Kelly, Indianapolis, Jets, Cards, Oakland. Its all about QB. Not about haggling whether 2 wins is significantly different than 1 win or 3 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Watch the falcons rebuild. I bet they don’t end up without a qb half way thru. That is why I think they will try a shorter term re-load. The team is actually in decent shape cap wise. They have some room and some easyish cuts that get them some more. They probably have 4 more years of Matt Ryan, they have their franchise LT (Matthews), they have their pass rusher (Beasley), they have their #1 receiver (Julio) and they have their #1 corner (Trufant). They would be mad to tear it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Any of these teams have a -94 differential or scored less then less then 81 points? Any other team averaging less then 129.4 yards passing a game? Yes I'd like to see some offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Trade rosters straight up? Atlanta, Dallas, Detroit is close but Stafford is better than anything we've had since Kelly, Indianapolis, Jets, Cards, Oakland. Its all about QB. Not about haggling whether 2 wins is significantly different than 1 win or 3 wins. Detroit is middle of the pack cap wise and Stafford is on the roster until 2022...ohhh, nice SH. Just giving me more reasons to go with Detroit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Not really. There's enough offseason turnover in the NFL to render any of the teams presently sub.500 fairly comparable. Heck the Cards even won yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Anyone but the Giants or Denver pretty much because of the QB position. All of those teams have a higher upside at QB, then we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'd take any of them over these Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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