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Funny how Eli Manning can look like absolute trash and the overwhelming majority give him a pass. This is despite his having a solid TE, Shepherd and the highest paid WR in the league (OBJackass). 

 

Yet, Josh Allen has a mishmash of WR’s, a suspect line and is starting his FOURTH game and some of the experts think he should sit. 

 

Sad

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Josh Allen is only 52,000 passing yards behind Eli. 

 

Wonder what TBDers think he will get to in his career?

1,000

10,000

20,000

30,000

40,000

50,000

60,000

70,000

80,000

 

 

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2 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

well, two Super Bowl rings will afford him that luxury. 

You’re missing the point. Guys need to chill out. Give Josh Allen OBJackass, Shepherd and a real TE and he might actually shut some people up. 

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10 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Funny how Eli Manning can look like absolute trash and the overwhelming majority give him a pass. This is despite his having a solid TE, Shepherd and the highest paid WR in the league (OBJackass). 

 

Yet, Josh Allen has a mishmash of WR’s, a suspect line and is starting his FOURTH game and some of the experts think he should sit. 

 

Sad

Lmao.

 

The guy won two super bowls. Allen could play like Peterman after his 2nd Super Bowl win(with the Bills of course) for all I care. 

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6 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Funny how Eli Manning can look like absolute trash and the overwhelming majority give him a pass. This is despite his having a solid TE, Shepherd and the highest paid WR in the league (OBJackass). 

 

Yet, Josh Allen has a mishmash of WR’s, a suspect line and is starting his FOURTH game and some of the experts think he should sit. 

 

Sad

 

What they both have in common is a bad OL. Where that differs is the Giants tried to fix theirs with the high priced Solder and the 34th pick in the draft.

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16 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Funny how Eli Manning can look like absolute trash and the overwhelming majority give him a pass. This is despite his having a solid TE, Shepherd and the highest paid WR in the league (OBJackass). 

 

Yet, Josh Allen has a mishmash of WR’s, a suspect line and is starting his FOURTH game and some of the experts think he should sit. 

 

Sad

Eli should have retired 2 years ago 

 

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He can thank David Tyree and Mario Manningham for not being run out of NY 10 years ago.  He's never passed the eye test of being elite.  Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.  

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1 minute ago, YodaMan79 said:

He can thank David Tyree and Mario Manningham for not being run out of NY 10 years ago.  He's never passed the eye test of being elite.  Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.  

Can NOT STAND PEYTON LIGHT!!! But he and Josh shouldn't be compared. Let's do.... Allen v Rosen or something else. 

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22 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Funny how Eli Manning can look like absolute trash and the overwhelming majority give him a pass. This is despite his having a solid TE, Shepherd and the highest paid WR in the league (OBJackass). 

 

Yet, Josh Allen has a mishmash of WR’s, a suspect line and is starting his FOURTH game and some of the experts think he should sit. 

 

Sad

 

 

That you believe there's any parallel here is, yeah, kind of sad.

 

Thinking Allen should sit isn't saying he's going to be awful. It means he's not yet ready. There's no way to argue in any fashion that Eli is not yet ready.

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6 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said:

He can thank David Tyree and Mario Manningham for not being run out of NY 10 years ago.  He's never passed the eye test of being elite.  Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.  

 

 

No, he's not elite. Never has been. Has never claimed to be.

 

Yes, he's been a top ten QB for most of his career after the first four and half years, though he's also had some bad years when he tried to take the whole team on his shoulders. But he's never been that guy.

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4 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

No, he's not elite. Never has been. Has never claimed to be.

 

Yes, he's been a top ten QB for most of his career after the first four and half years, though he's also had some bad years when he tried to take the whole team on his shoulders. But he's never been that guy.

 

A few months ago I was listening to Bart Scott assert that when the Giants paid Eli everything changed. Too much money tied up in a guy that couldn't make up for the guys that would inevitably have to leave because they couldn't get paid.

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33 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

With Allen under DaBoll

 

Wonder what TBDers think he will get to in his career?

1,000. - 2018

10,000- 2022

20,000- 2025

30,000- 2028

40,000- 2032

50,000 never

 

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40 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Funny how Eli Manning can look like absolute trash and the overwhelming majority give him a pass. This is despite his having a solid TE, Shepherd and the highest paid WR in the league (OBJackass). 

 

Yet, Josh Allen has a mishmash of WR’s, a suspect line and is starting his FOURTH game and some of the experts think he should sit. 

 

Sad

 

 I thought in game threads weren't allowed.

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50 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

A few months ago I was listening to Bart Scott assert that when the Giants paid Eli everything changed. Too much money tied up in a guy that couldn't make up for the guys that would inevitably have to leave because they couldn't get paid.

 

 

I'd disagree with that, personally. He's had a long career, and he's been paid for most of it after the first contract.

 

It's somewhat true of every high-paid QB. But I wouldn't say it's more true of Eli than of any other.

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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

No, he's not elite. Never has been. Has never claimed to be.

 

Yes, he's been a top ten QB for most of his career after the first four and half years, though he's also had some bad years when he tried to take the whole team on his shoulders. But he's never been that guy.

He's a much better playoff QB.

 

Very inconsistent regular season guy. 

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3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

He's a much better playoff QB.

 

Very inconsistent regular season guy. 

 

 

I somewhat agree. But I'd say that the reason he's been a good playoff QB is because when they made the playoffs they had a good team and he was having a good year. He is up and down but it's more season to season, than game to game, IMHO.

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2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

I'd disagree with that, personally. He's had a long career, and he's been paid for most of it after the first contract.

 

It's somewhat true of every high-paid QB. But I wouldn't say it's more true of Eli than of any other.

 

You said Eli wasn't elite. I agree.  Bart's point was that non-elite QB's getting paid as elite QB's makes it tougher to surround that QB with talent and the QB better be able overcome that (see Aaron Rodgers).  I thought he made a good point. 

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16 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

I somewhat agree. But I'd say that the reason he's been a good playoff QB is because when they made the playoffs they had a good team and he was having a good year. He is up and down but it's more season to season, than game to game, IMHO.

Maybe.

 

He had a pretty pedestrian 2007 regular season before playing great in the playoffs. 

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1 hour ago, bmur66 said:

Can’t believe they didn’t take a QB at no.2

 

They'll be able to in the next draft.

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