reddogblitz Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Koko78 said: Al Gore, Emperor of the Moon, went out of his way not to use Bill in 2000. Big reason why he lost. Or maybe that was why he was able to keep it so close. 35 minutes ago, row_33 said: W was far worse a loss twice in a row. Good point. Hard to argue with that. But at least Bush supported something they like. War. Something they can all agree on. How about 1 for Bush and 1a for Trump? Edited June 20, 2019 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Mystery Science Theater 2019. This is a new low. But if the Ds lose to Donald twice in a row they should disband, put on sackcloth and ashes, and just go away. Maybe bring back the Whigs or something. Anything. a new low? anything compared to the ongoing soft coup ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Foxx said: a new low? anything compared to the ongoing soft coup ? Presidential behavior wise which is what I was referring to? Absolutely. This is school yard bully nonsense. And the really sad part is this is setting the bar for presidential behavior. I suspect the next president whoever it is, might very well do the same. This is what the social media and twitterization of our society has resulted in (among other things) IMHO. I see no reason to think it will get better anytime soon regardless of who the prez is going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Presidential behavior wise which is what I was referring to? Absolutely. This is school yard bully nonsense. And the really sad part is this is setting the bar for presidential behavior. I suspect the next president whoever it is, might very well do the same. This is what the social media and twitterization of our society has resulted in (among other things) IMHO. I see no reason to think it will get better anytime soon regardless of who the prez is going forward. meh. when you are pushed to the extent and marginalized as much as Trump has been... when you have, not only the other wing of the bird trying to initiate a coup against you but you also have the main stream propaganda machine aiding and abetting that coup, how do you expect him to not only connect with the american people but to present his side of the story. holy run on sentence batman.... they brought it on themselves. granted Trump may have used twitter regardless but i don't believe he would have had to reach down to their level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, Foxx said: meh. when you are pushed to the extent and marginalized as much as Trump has been... when you have, not only the other wing of the bird trying to initiate a coup against you but you also have the main stream propaganda machine aiding and abetting that coup, how do you expect him to not only connect with the american people but to present his side of the story. holy run on sentence batman.... they brought it on themselves. granted Trump may have used twitter regardless but i don't believe he would have had to reach down to their level. The MSM was so against Trump that he was never going to get his message out and defend himself from the Left and their compliant media.Trump was left with Twitter as his way of communicating with the public. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Trump couldn't care less about the stupidity against him he loves stirring it up Edited June 20, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, row_33 said: Trump couldn't care less about the stupidity against him he loves stirring it up Troller-In-Chief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 35 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Troller-In-Chief Maybe so, but he's outmaneuvered the entire MSM, along with the deep state so he must have something going for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Maybe so, but he's outmaneuvered the entire MSM, along with the deep state so he must have something going for him. He has. I get a good laugh out of the Ds and media falling for it every time. It's sooooo obvious. I think Nancy (that's what Donald calls her) has figured it out and has done some masterful trolling herself at times which Trump has himself fallen for. It's funny, but also sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Maybe so, but he's outmaneuvered the entire MSM, along with the deep state so he must have something going for him. I wouldn't go that far but agree he has maneuvered around the media fairly often. He could do a lot better though by simply going on TV + streaming + twitter every month with cogent fact based presentations on his highest priorities such as resolving illegal immigration. The facts supporting most of his policy positions are very much on his side. With Congress having something like a 20% approval rating, he could publicly contrast a more business-like approach to problem solving from the petty gamesmanship of politicians which would IMO win over a larger portion of the public including Dems. It's simply not his persona, and his support will always be very limited by his demeanor. He could be significantly more popular and much more effective as a leader if he ever figures this out and adjusts his style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: I wouldn't go that far but agree he has maneuvered around the media fairly often. He could do a lot better though by simply going on TV + streaming + twitter every month with cogent fact based presentations on his highest priorities such as resolving illegal immigration. The facts supporting most of his policy positions are very much on his side. With Congress having something like a 20% approval rating, he could publicly contrast a more business-like approach to problem solving from the petty gamesmanship of politicians which would IMO win over a larger portion of the public including Dems. It's simply not his persona, and his support will always be very limited by his demeanor. He could be significantly more popular and much more effective as a leader if he ever figures this out and adjusts his style. Yeah, I agree, but then he wouldn't be Trump. He'd be Ross Perot. Edited June 20, 2019 by reddogblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 MICHAEL TOMASKY: The Democratic Civil War Is Here. “If one of these two quarrels is going to metastasize into something ugly, it’ll be Sanders, who remains apart from the party whose nomination he’s running for.” I dunno — the sniping at Biden is already getting ugly. FLASHBACK: The Coming Democrat Civil War. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Quote MSNBCVerified account @MSNBC FollowFollow @MSNBC .@Lawrence: "Could you run on a ticket with Joe Biden?" Sen. Cory Booker: "I do not think there should be two men on a ticket...we should have tickets that have racial and gender diversity in them" They do not judge on ideas. They do not judge on competency or experience. They judge on gender and race. And why just racial and gender diversity? Thank God I was not raised like that. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 7 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Presidential behavior wise which is what I was referring to? Absolutely. This is school yard bully nonsense. And the really sad part is this is setting the bar for presidential behavior. I suspect the next president whoever it is, might very well do the same. This is what the social media and twitterization of our society has resulted in (among other things) IMHO. I see no reason to think it will get better anytime soon regardless of who the prez is going forward. It would be oh so presidential to sit back and get blugeoned by 20 morons for a couple of hours and have a willing press agree with everything they say. The more presidential he is, the less chance he has to remain president. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: It would be oh so presidential to sit back and get blugeoned by 20 morons for a couple of hours and have a willing press agree with everything they say. The more presidential he is, the less chance he has to remain president. Isn't there more to being the President of the United States of America than getting re elected? If not, then he's just like the rest of 'em. Drain the swamp? Same as the old swamp. Edited June 21, 2019 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Isn't there more to being the President of the United States of America than getting re elected? If not, then he's just like the rest of 'em. Drain the swamp? Same as the old swamp. You demand quite a lofty set of principles for the President. all we have is the media smooching his behind when a Dem is in office and screaming about evil the whole time the GOP is in office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Wait till AOC learns there is a process called primaries to elect a nominee for each party, usually resolved before a Convention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, row_33 said: You demand quite a lofty set of principles for the President. all we have is the media smooching his behind when a Dem is in office and screaming about evil the whole time the GOP is in office Good point. I pretty much have up on all this as being a fair process where the people select their leaders and said leaders do what's best for the American people a while back. But now it's just gross childish school yard lowest common denominator name calling nonsense even if the other guys/girls do it too IMHO. But it is where we are. Edited June 21, 2019 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Good point. I pretty much have up on all this as being a fair process where the people select their leaders and they do what's best for the American people a while back. But now it's just gross childish school yard lowest common denominator name calling nonsense IMHO. But it is where we are. Mencken adjured us that democracy is the common people knowing what they want and deserving to get it good and hard. used to have decent discussion between differing views on TV, then they interrupted each other the whole half hour on CNNs Crossfire, and now there is a tendency to deny a differing opinion the right to even exist Maybe the exposure of too much politics every day is more than the system can handle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 ———— some argue there is really only one Party, the rich and powerful who control all politics and the civil service and the media. They pretend there is a diff to make things interesting for common people, but it’s always the same old thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 8 hours ago, row_33 said: Wait till AOC learns there is a process called primaries to elect a nominee for each party, usually resolved before a Convention Considering the tactic she used to get her seat is called primarying, I would hope she knows about primaries. Though, with her you never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Considering the tactic she used to get her seat is called primarying, I would hope she knows about primaries. Though, with her you never know... AOC---Primaries? Are those the books we had in first grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: AOC---Primaries? Are those the books we had in first grade? I'm pretty sure that when she won her primary she openly declared that she won her seat. If anything, she doesn't understand that Republicans also compete in elections, though maybe not in her district Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm pretty sure that when she won her primary she openly declared that she won her seat. If anything, she doesn't understand that Republicans also compete in elections, though maybe not in her district Part of her initial confusion in Congress is how in the hell if she won her seat, she was assigned to a standing committee. In addition she wanted to know why there was only one chair per committee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 42 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Considering the tactic she used to get her seat is called primarying, I would hope she knows about primaries. Though, with her you never know... The worst foisting since Charles Foster Kane pushed his bimbo into a career as opera diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders open to decriminalizing sex work by David Sherfinski Original Article After white cop kills black suspect, Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg tries to navigate fallout in South Bend Chicago Tribune, by Bill Ruthhart Original Article Joe Biden refuses to apologize, getting in his own way on race CNN, by Stephen Collinson Original Article . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 back to the one-party system in reality... today's quote i came across: "Change everything just a little so as to keep exactly everything the same." - Lampedusa's The Leopard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 As I said on the previous page; They do not judge on ideas. They do not judge on competency or experience. They judge on gender and race. And why just racial and gender diversity? Thank God I was not raised like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, B-Man said: As I said on the previous page; They do not judge on ideas. They do not judge on competency or experience. They judge on gender and race. And why just racial and gender diversity? Thank God I was not raised like that. even if you were raised like that, as an adult with a brain and social interaction you'd realize how stupid it is to judge everyone this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 hours ago, row_33 said: Wait till AOC learns there is a process called primaries to elect a nominee for each party, usually resolved before a Convention Is this, like, a party, like, at a Star Trek convention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Is this, like, a party, like, at a Star Trek convention? yes, cosplay is part of the day apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 22 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Presidential behavior wise which is what I was referring to? Absolutely. This is school yard bully nonsense. And the really sad part is this is setting the bar for presidential behavior. I suspect the next president whoever it is, might very well do the same. This is what the social media and twitterization of our society has resulted in (among other things) IMHO. I see no reason to think it will get better anytime soon regardless of who the prez is going forward. Trump is an iconoclast. You mean to say that after the Left’s decrying and denying for decades the validity of the middle class’s railing against sex, violence, murder, gunfights, sociopathic behaviors, macabre sexual fetishes on TV, the movies, music, theatre and the arts, because they were having a damaging effect on society, that NOW there are actually people who believe that what is said and how it is said in the public forum can have a deleterious modifying effect on our societal behaviors? Zut Alors! All I can offer is the response we heard for all those decades: No one is forcing you to watch it. If you don’t want you or your children to hear or see it - change the channel. 5 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Considering the tactic she used to get her seat is called primarying, I would hope she knows about primaries. Though, with her you never know... She’s eagerly looking forward to the secondaries, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nanker said: You mean to say that after the Left’s decrying and denying for decades the validity of the middle class’s railing against sex, violence, murder, gunfights, sociopathic behaviors, macabre sexual fetishes on TV, the movies, music, theatre and the arts, because they were having a damaging effect on society, that NOW there are actually people who believe that what is said and how it is said in the public forum can have a deleterious modifying effect on our societal behaviors? All I can offer is the response we heard for all those decades: No one is forcing you to watch it. If you don’t want you or your children to hear or see it - change the channel. I'm not sure what this has to do with what I was talking about. I said nothing of movie censorship etc. And as an American citizen that WILL stay informed regardless of who the Prez is, I really DON'T have a choice unless I choose to be uninformed. Is that what you are suggesting? That I bury my head in the sand if I don't like what the President of the United States says? Really? I wonder what Thomas Jefferson would think of your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 You don’t like his tone or messaging style. Fine. Deal with it. That’s what the Left’s mantra has been for decades to people who believe the discourse/moral values/societal fabric was being torn asunder. Now we we have a “Republican” POTUS who is iconoclastic and the Left is SUDDENLY concerned about decorum. After what the Left has brought this culture to, it laughable. Just plain laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nanker said: You don’t like his tone or messaging style. Fine. Deal with it. That’s what the Left’s mantra has been for decades to people who believe the discourse/moral values/societal fabric was being torn asunder. Now we we have a “Republican” POTUS who is iconoclastic and the Left is SUDDENLY concerned about decorum. After what the Left has brought this culture to, it laughable. Just plain laughable. It’s still unbelievable he won, and his quirks and success make it even more unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Nanker said: You don’t like his tone or messaging style. Fine. Deal with it. That’s what the Left’s mantra has been for decades to people who believe the discourse/moral values/societal fabric was being torn asunder. Now we we have a “Republican” POTUS who is iconoclastic and the Left is SUDDENLY concerned about decorum. After what the Left has brought this culture to, it laughable. Just plain laughable. Again, not sure what "the Left" has to do with Donald's tone or messaging style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Again, not sure what "the Left" has to do with Donald's tone or messaging style. Really ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: Really ? . Really. Was it "the Left" that called Marco Rubio "Little Marco" or Elizabeth Warren "Pocohantes" for example? "the Left" aren't saints either. I never said they were. Doesn't excuse Donald's behavior however. He's a flaming narcissist displaying classic narcissistic behavior and always has. "the Left" had nothing to do with it. He is what he is. Edited June 21, 2019 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Again, not sure what "the Left" has to do with Donald's tone or messaging style. Try this on in order to get a better idea of what the Left has to do with it. Go to msn.com home page. Make sure you navigate to their "news". Scroll down and look at all of the negative slant on the headlines. They could pick up an article from a conservative writer that was labeled "Trump Cures Almost All Cancer" and they would re-headline it as "Trump Fails To Cure All Cancer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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