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28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

uh-oh @transplantbillsfan things aren't looking good for Joe -- whom you were convinced would easily win the nomination and beat Trump. Now he'll be lucky to escape a serious investigation into his corruption. (kinda exactly like several people predicted would happen and you laughed at them for doing so...)

 

 

 

:beer: 

 

Your new Trump avatar is going to look GREAT in 13 months. 

 

 

The spin by NBC is gross btw... but facts aren't what NBC cares about.

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They just asked Joe about Trump's "stone cold crooked" comment. 

 

His response was underwhelming. 

 

Joe's got no fight left in him. He's done.

 

What was our bet again?

 

Oh yeah, ANY Democratic candidate vs. Trump.

 

Why do you keep forgetting?

 

Someone will pound Trump like a drum, Biden or not.

 

Maybe you should like stop trying to lure me over here.  The hypocrisy is a little ridiculous.

 

Apparently polls matter when they fit your narrative but are meaningless when they don't.

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14 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

What was our bet again?

 

Oh yeah, ANY Democratic candidate vs. Trump.

 

Why do you keep forgetting?

 

Someone will pound Trump like a drum, Biden or not.

 

Maybe you should like stop trying to lure me over here.  The hypocrisy is a little ridiculous.

 

Apparently polls matter when they fit your narrative but are meaningless when they don't.

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So now you REALLY want to say Biden wasn't your guy? You raved about him -- for weeks. Which is how we got the bet in the first place. :lol: 

 

Come on, at least be honest. 

 

This isn't about polls. It's about reality vs fiction. You've lived in a world of fiction for three years and your early support of Biden (which you're now running from) was indicative of that. 

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On 6/27/2019 at 7:57 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

I still think Biden ends up with the nomination, but Harris really really helped herself.

 

Regardless, I think the stage tonight most likely had the Democratic nominee and next President of the USA.

 

On 6/27/2019 at 9:15 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

If Harris is the Democratic candidate, I think she'll sweep the floor with Trump.

 

She was extremely well prepared and had what I think was the impromptu inserted one-liner of the last 2 nights.

 

My guess is still that Biden wins the candidacy, though, and as you say, she could very easily be VP, groomed to take over after one term.

 

On 6/28/2019 at 9:23 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

Harris, Booker and Buttigueg have been among my handful of favorites for awhile along with Biden. I'd be happy with any of them and think all would beat Trump.

 

Everyone you picked as a favorite -- has sunk in the polls and have no shot to win the nom, let alone beat Trump. The likely winner, Warren, you said "might" have a chance. 

 

And, look here... 

 

On 6/28/2019 at 9:25 AM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

You still think Biden has a chance after last night? 

 

He's toast. He's going to take awhile to sink, but it'll be joyous to watch him fail (for the third time).

 

Pretty spot on. Biden was dead in June -- and is still sinking today. He's a goner. 

 

(Think of all the heartache you could have spared yourself if you just took a moment to step out of your partisan bubble and did some critical thinking on your own). 

 

13 months to go... 

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18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

So now you REALLY want to say Biden wasn't your guy? You raved about him -- for weeks. Which is how we got the bet in the first place. :lol: 

 

Come on, at least be honest. 

 

This isn't about polls. It's about reality vs fiction. You've lived in a world of fiction for three years and your early support of Biden (which you're now running from) was indicative of that. 

 

He’s not going to honor the bet anyway.

 

None if these people care about justice, or law, or honesty.  Look at the folks here who refuse to engage with the truth:  they actively obsfucate, and survive on a diet of logical fallacies they’re required to twist themselves into pretzels to present.  It’s not even subtle.

 

They know they’re wrong, and they know they’re lying; thing is for them this is team sports.  They seek power for their ideas, and don’t care how they get it.  They’re happy to lie if it advances their political goals.

 

It’s why they were so happy to back the character assassination of Justice Kavanaugh and the Covington kids, and why they support deplatforming and unpersoning those they perceive as their enemies.

 

They aren’t interested in shared values or peace through compromise.  They view everyone who isn’t dogmatically aligned with them as an impediment to their end goals who must be ground into submission.

 

The person you’re addressing isn’t a decent or honorable person.  He works as a social engineer at a government indoctrination facility, because he wants to undermine parents and propagandize to children.  A noble goal for which he’s happy to leverage the enforcement arm of the government to point guns at you and extort your wealth for his own personal gain.

 

You think this type of man will concede anything?

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Just remember that no matter what happens from now until the end of time, Donald Trump won the Presidential election. He defeated Hill-dog and the entire political establishment and became your President. It can never be undone.

 

Even if the Dems were to somehow manage to remove him it doesn't matter. It already happened and it can't be erased.

 

He will forever be referred to as President Trump.

 

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3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

He’s not going to honor the bet anyway.

 

None if these people care about justice, or law, or honesty.  Look at the folks here who refuse to engage with the truth:  they actively obsfucate, and survive on a diet of logical fallacies they’re required to quiet themselves into pretzels to present.  It’s not even subtle.

 

They know they’re wrong, and they know they’re lying; thing is for them this is team sports.  They seek power for their ideas, and don’t care how they get it.  They’re happy to lie if it advances their political goals.

 

It’s why they were so happy to back the character assassination of Justice Kavanaugh and the Covington kids, and why they support deplatforming and unpersoning those they perceive as their enemies.

 

They aren’t interested in shared values or peace through compromise.  They view everyone who isn’t dogmatically aligned with them as an impediment to their end goals who must be ground into submission.

 

The person you’re addressing isn’t a decent or honorable person.  He works as a social engineer at a government indoctrination facility, because he wants to undermine parents and propagandize to children.  A noble goal for which he’s happy to leverage the enforcement arm of the government to point guns at you and extort your wealth for his own personal gain.

 

You think this type of man will concede anything?

 

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21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

So now you REALLY want to say Biden wasn't your guy? You raved about him -- for weeks. Which is how we got the bet in the first place. :lol: 

 

Raved about him?

 

Find where I raved about him, please.

 

Not even getting baited into your bullcrap.  There was a reason I told you Field vs. Trump.

 

Still not clear who'll be in that field because there's a long way to go til the primaries, but I'm still very confident in that bet.

 

You wanna argue about Biden?

 

Go ahead.

 

I'm not going to be a victim of the moment here.

 

Enjoy your moment, if that's really what you think you have.

 

21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Come on, at least be honest. 

 

This isn't about polls. It's about reality vs fiction. You've lived in a world of fiction for three years and your early support of Biden (which you're now running from) was indicative of that. 

 

Running from what?

 

I've been honest.  Have you?

 

You're wildly mistaken.

 

I'm not running from my support of WHOEVER the Democratic candidate is.

 

To clarify my earlier positions, it was ALWAYS that Biden was/is the most likely Democratic candidate, not necessarily that he would be the BEST President among that field.

 

But ANY of them would be better than Trump.

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Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Running from what?

 

I've been honest.  Have you?

 

 

I asked you days ago to speak about Biden's son and your opinion on that issue. You dodged (and still are). 

 

So let's try again. Take Trump out of it. Do you find it gross that Biden lobbied the Ukraine to open up their natural gas reserves weeks before his son took a job on the board of a natural gas company in the Ukraine (without having any experience in the field) for 50k a week? 

 

Do you find that off putting? Possibly corrupt? Or are you fine with it?

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6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 Money will keep Bernie and Biden in this thing long after they are polling dead.  Maybe someone should write a movie called weekend at Bernie and Joe's. 

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21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

Everyone you picked as a favorite -- has sunk in the polls and have no shot to win the nom, let alone beat Trump. The likely winner, Warren, you said "might" have a chance. 

 

And, look here... 

 

 

Pretty spot on. Biden was dead in June -- and is still sinking today. He's a goner. 

 

(Think of all the heartache you could have spared yourself if you just took a moment to step out of your partisan bubble and did some critical thinking on your own). 

 

13 months to go... 

 

What heartache?

 

This weird world in your head must be interesting at least, probably pretty miserable and lonely, though.

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I asked you days ago to speak about Biden's son and your opinion on that issue. You dodged (and still are). 

 

So let's try again. Take Trump out of it. Do you find it gross that Biden lobbied the Ukraine to open up their natural gas reserves weeks before his son took a job on the board of a natural gas company in the Ukraine (without having any experience in the field) for 50k a week? 

 

Do you find that off putting? Possibly corrupt? Or are you fine with it?

 

What does not talking about any issue have to do with honesty?

 

Do you know the definition of the word?

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For the leftists out there, 

I know it upsets you that the establishment lost, and I know how desperately you want it to regain power, but you shouldn't fret. Time is on your side. As we continue to move toward Idiocracy, the masses will increasingly empower the federal bureaucracy.

 

You may not personally live long enough to experience the joy of living under authoritarian rule, but the odds are pretty good that your children, or at least your grand children, will. And isn't it all about the children anyway?

 

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Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Your obsession with me is oddly flattering  :flirt:

 

I've got nothing against you. I'm busting your balls in a friendly way because we have a bet... 

 

But it's weird you won't answer that question. It's not a trap. It's asking your opinion on a relevant topic. The fact you won't even answer because (I assume) you think it's some sort of trap is nutty. You must have an opinion on that question, why won't you share it? 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I've got nothing against you. I'm busting your balls in a friendly way because we have a bet... 

 

But it's weird you won't answer that question. It's not a trap. It's asking your opinion on a relevant topic. The fact you won't even answer because (I assume) you think it's some sort of trap is nutty. You must have an opinion on that question, why won't you share it? 

 

 

 

I understand what you're doing, and I've got nothing against you.

 

But I'm not interested in participating in that discussion with you for a handful of different reasons.

 

13 months and we find out who wins.

 

Truth is, I believe if Trump isn't President in 2021 you guys are going to come up with more screwball excuses than Democrats did in 2017.

 

Oh... and @TakeYouToTasker ... yes of course I'll honor my bet.  It's a message board avatar.  I don't care.  But will @Deranged Rhino honor his bet?

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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I understand what you're doing, and I've got nothing against you.

 

But I'm not interested in participating in that discussion with you for a handful of different reasons.

 

13 months and we find out who wins.

 

Truth is, I believe if Trump isn't President in 2021 you guys are going to come up with more screwball excuses than Democrats did in 2017.

 

Oh... and @TakeYouToTasker ... yes of course I'll honor my bet.  It's a message board avatar.  I don't care.  But will @Deranged Rhino honor his bet?

 

I don’t believe you.

 

I’ve never seen you do anything else honestly here, so why should anyone trust you this one time?

 

Even your profession is dishonorable, grading only slightly below tax-collector.

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Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

I don’t believe you.

 

I’ve never seen you do anything else honestly here, so why should anyone trust you this one time?

 

Even your profession is dishonorable, grading only slightly below tax-collector.

 

He's been honestly racist.

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5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

I don’t believe you.

 

I’ve never seen you do anything else honestly here, so why should anyone trust you this one time?

 

Even your profession is dishonorable, grading only slightly below tax-collector.

 

What's up Troll?

 

Man... your life must just suck.

 

I couldn't care less if you don't believe me.  @Deranged Rhino and I have a bet and I'll honor that bet.

 

You wanna partake?  You seem like you want a new avatar, too  :nana:

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2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

What's up Troll?

 

Man... your life must just suck.

 

I couldn't care less if you don't believe me.  @Deranged Rhino and I have a bet and I'll honor that bet.

 

You wanna partake?  You seem like you want a new avatar, too  :nana:

 

You think I’m trolling you?

 

I don’t engage in that sort of thing.  My time is too valuable, and my posting history will attest to the claim.

 

Whereas your posting history portrays a dishonest, dishonorable man.

 

Greg has far more patience than I do, and he believes that most people have honorable intentions, and can be “reached” if just given a chance.

 

It’s a point we disagree on.  I find that when people refuse to engage with truth, and perpetuate lies in face of stark truth, that those people are knowingly choosing what they are.

 

It’s possible you’ll prove me wrong, and you’ll be honest in honoring your wager; though if it’s your intent to try your hand at honesty you don’t need to wait until November of 2020.

 

You’re free to give it a try right now.

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29 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

He's been honestly racist.

 

It certainly fits with his character, though I don’t remember it.

 

I’ve had him on ignore ever since I realized what he was, and only engaged him now because he responded to my post to Greg.

 

The board is so much more readable when you simply remember to flush the toilet.

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3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

It certainly fits with his character, though I don’t remember it.

 

I’ve had him on ignore ever since I realized what he was, and only engaged him now because he responded to my post to Greg.

 

The board is so much more readable when you simply remember to flush the toilet.

 

He was pushing the "well spoken black man" trope for some reason or another, and projecting racism on to everyone else calling him out. He's about to do it again, I'm sure.

 

He's pretty spectacularly awful.

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1 hour ago, keepthefaith said:

 

 Money will keep Bernie and Biden in this thing long after they are polling dead.  Maybe someone should write a movie called weekend at Bernie and Joe's. 

Sanders's fundraising numbers are impressive given the people continuing to shell it out saw so little return on their investment in 2016.

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27 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

You think I’m trolling you?

 

I don’t engage in that sort of thing.  My time is too valuable, and my posting history will attest to the claim.

 

Whereas your posting history belies a dishonest, dishonorable man.

 

Was "belies" really the word you meant?

 

27 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Greg has far more patience than I do, and he believes that most people have honorable intentions, and can be “reached” if just given a chance.

 

It’s a point we disagree on.  I find that when people refuse to engage with truth, and perpetuate lies in face of stark truth, that those people are knowingly choosing what they are.

 

It’s possible you’ll prove me wrong, and you’ll be honest in honoring your wager; though if it’s your intent to try your hand at honesty you don’t need to wait until November of 2020.

 

You’re free to give it a try right now.

 

Engage with truth?

 

That's a laugh. So much of the crap you guys dish out over here is either untruths, twisted truths, truths buried in swimming pools of bullcrap, or the occasional truth.

 

Engaging in these conversations is something over here I typically avoid because of all the bullcrap floating around amidst the occasional truth.

 

So what's the point?

 

But if you're saying you're in on the bet (is that what you're saying?) then awesome. You can find out how honorable or dishonorable I really am if I lose.

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59 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

I'm pretty sure he meant your posting history belies an honest, honorable man. That seems to make more sense.

 

That is what I assumed he meant, even though he basically said the opposite...

 

maybe he should have paid more attention in school to those dishonorable educators he believes are just below tax collectors :lol:

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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

I'm pretty sure he meant your posting history belies an honest, honorable man. That seems to make more sense.

 

I meant portrays.  I originally wrote essentially what you have above, then rewrote it because I didn’t like the flow, and didn’t edit everything out because I was being too hasty  Unfortunately it leaves me with a very dopey writing error.

 

Honest men can admit to mistakes.  Other readers should take note.

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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Was "belies" really the word you meant?

 

 

Engage with truth?

 

That's a laugh. So much of the crap you guys dish out over here is either untruths, twisted truths, truths buried in swimming pools of bullcrap, or the occasional truth.

 

Engaging in these conversations is something over here I typically avoid because of all the bullcrap floating around amidst the occasional truth.

 

So what's the point?

 

But if you're saying you're in on the bet (is that what you're saying?) then awesome. You can find out how honorable or dishonorable I really am if I lose.

 

Yes, engage with truth.

 

You seem to be incapable of it.  You’ve been offered the opportunity to learn, but you routinely rebuff anything that challenges your biases.  Most recently you won’t answer the hard questions you’ve been asked about the Biden’s. 

 

Demonstrate intellectual honesty.

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5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

uh-oh @transplantbillsfan things aren't looking good for Joe -- whom you were convinced would easily win the nomination and beat Trump. Now he'll be lucky to escape a serious investigation into his corruption. (kinda exactly like several people predicted would happen and you laughed at them for doing so...)

 

 

 

:beer: 

 

Your new Trump avatar is going to look GREAT in 13 months. 

 

 

The spin by NBC is gross btw... but facts aren't what NBC cares about.

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They just asked Joe about Trump's "stone cold crooked" comment. 

 

His response was underwhelming. 

 

Joe's got no fight left in him. He's done.

 

Aren't you the one who says polls are stupid? Like this one saying more people think Congress should begin impeachment proceedings than not? 

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2 hours ago, John Adams said:

 

Aren't you the one who says polls are stupid? Like this one saying more people think Congress should begin impeachment proceedings than not? 

 

Context. It continues to be something you ignore. 

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I've got nothing against you. I'm busting your balls in a friendly way because we have a bet... 

 

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2 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Yes, engage with truth.

 

You seem to be incapable of it.  You’ve been offered the opportunity to learn, but you routinely rebuff anything that challenges your biases.  Most recently you won’t answer the hard questions you’ve been asked about the Biden’s. 

 

Demonstrate intellectual honesty.

 

It's this type of arrogance over here that's the reason I don't bother engaging.

 

There's arrogance on the football board... but it's football and even there it's a watered down version of the bravado over here.

 

I lurk here enough to see that much of the "sourcing" you guys over here is utter crap.

 

But they fit with your own biases... so you roll with them.

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13 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Everyone you picked as a favorite -- has sunk in the polls and have no shot to win the nom, let alone beat Trump. The likely winner, Warren, you said "might" have a chance. 

 

And, look here... 

 

 

Pretty spot on. Biden was dead in June -- and is still sinking today. He's a goner. 

 

(Think of all the heartache you could have spared yourself if you just took a moment to step out of your partisan bubble and did some critical thinking on your own). 

 

13 months to go... 

if there is a position Trans takes, you would be wise to be on the other side of that equation. been this way for years. his football acumen is demonstrably flawed as evidenced by his rabid support of the failed QB's throughout the recent past. 

 

i have a bet with him on the football side and hope that when he loses, he will honor his bet. namely, no predictions of any sort. because i felt the bet to be so bad for him, i only limited it to a one year period. however, i am hoping that maybe in that year, he will come to see that his perspective on 'things' is often off and will cause him to take a step back and reassess what he believes. 

 

my side of the bet?  if i lose... are you ready for this.... i can't be mean to him anymore. what he doesn't understand though, is that tough love can often be the most needed love.

 

though he can be a douche, i trust that he will honor my bet as well as the bet he has with you and Gunner. only a couple months for the outcome of our bet to be settled.

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11 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

He was pushing the "well spoken black man" trope for some reason or another, and projecting racism on to everyone else calling him out. He's about to do it again, I'm sure.

 

He's pretty spectacularly awful.

 

lying about not being a Biden fanboy is a terrible look as well 

9 hours ago, John Adams said:

 

Aren't you the one who says polls are stupid? Like this one saying more people think Congress should begin impeachment proceedings than not? 

 

Do you speak to a psychologist about DR? 

 

Your constant posts on him seem like a cry for help.      Slow the frequency down a little, you won’t come off as obsessed 

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1 minute ago, Foxx said:

my, your are being especially dense and obtuse this morning. 

 

Mmm kay

51 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Do you speak to a psychologist about DR? 

 

Your constant posts on him seem like a cry for help.      Slow the frequency down a little, you won’t come off as obsessed 

 

His post frequency makes him the subject of more mockery. Post more and you'd get there too. Good luck though. 

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