Deranged Rhino Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, John Adams said: Here's an easy question: Is it your position that the other 13 agencies disagree with that quote? Another dodge I'd respect you so much more if you just would admit when you get something wrong instead of shamelessly avoiding it. Do you think the NRO has any opinion on Trump/Russia collusion? Is that their purview or mandate? What about the NGIA? Or DEA? Or DoE? Nope. That's not their bailiwick -- there's no reason to include them in the number of agencies who "agree" or "disagree" unless you're trying to deceive people by inflating the value of the ICA. The ICA itself was compiled by three agencies. One of those three, the NSA, which has the most direct oversight on this issue and is best positioned in terms of mission to know what's what when it comes to the question of hacking, Russian meddling, et al -- they put their confidence rate at 50%. Can't have that be the lead in the press in late 2016, not if you're trying to execute a coup and wage a disinformation campaign on the public, can you? Nope. So how do you hide it? By saying a lie (which isn't in the report itself) that "ALL 17 INTEL AGENCIES AGREE". Truth is they did not all agree -- because they were not all involved. And of the ones involved, only TWO agreed. Saying two out of 17 intel agencies agree with ICA is a weak argument when you're trying to convince the world that there was *****ery afoot, no? So they didn't. They lied about it instead and relied on people like you who don't do the work themselves to repeat their lie over and over -- even three years after this lie has been disavowed, just like you did above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wait, your position is that all 17 intelligence agencies agreed with the ICA's findings? ...Still? Or are we still being dishonest and pretending that's not what you said and what I was referring to? Here's the quote -- from you. This is incorrect information. Long proven to be a lie. And here you are pushing it again. Because you never bothered to understand that it was a lie, why it was a lie, and how that matters. He has a new handle, again--------------------------------Mr. Obtuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RochesterRob Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Warren and Other Dems Call for Fracking Ban — Do they WANT to lose Colorado, Ohio, and Pennsylvania? . I hate to admit this but that is smart of them as they are only hoping to get some city folk off of the sofa to vote for them. They most likely have figured that the few landowners affected relative to the overall population in these states are immaterial for their purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Poor Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Brutal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Someone forgot to tell Biden: you never go full gatorman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: I hate to admit this but that is smart of them as they are only hoping to get some city folk off of the sofa to vote for them. They most likely have figured that the few landowners affected relative to the overall population in these states are immaterial for their purposes. Fracking has helped the economy of the whole country. Iran recently has been pulling its old bs and has anyone noticed how it has affected us at the gas pump? Also many more people than just landowners profit from fracking. It creates jobs not only in the field but in refineries and transportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, jrober38 said: Eliminate the opposition in your party, and then eliminate the opposition. Like Hillary tried to do? Problem is, she F'd up Edited September 23, 2019 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Another dodge I'd respect you so much more if you just would admit when you get something wrong instead of shamelessly avoiding it. Do you think the NRO has any opinion on Trump/Russia collusion? Is that their purview or mandate? What about the NGIA? Or DEA? Or DoE? Nope. That's not their bailiwick -- there's no reason to include them in the number of agencies who "agree" or "disagree" unless you're trying to deceive people by inflating the value of the ICA. The ICA itself was compiled by three agencies. One of those three, the NSA, which has the most direct oversight on this issue and is best positioned in terms of mission to know what's what when it comes to the question of hacking, Russian meddling, et al -- they put their confidence rate at 50%. Can't have that be the lead in the press in late 2016, not if you're trying to execute a coup and wage a disinformation campaign on the public, can you? Nope. So how do you hide it? By saying a lie (which isn't in the report itself) that "ALL 17 INTEL AGENCIES AGREE". Truth is they did not all agree -- because they were not all involved. And of the ones involved, only TWO agreed. Saying two out of 17 intel agencies agree with ICA is a weak argument when you're trying to convince the world that there was *****ery afoot, no? So they didn't. They lied about it instead and relied on people like you who don't do the work themselves to repeat their lie over and over -- even three years after this lie has been disavowed, just like you did above. You can't even answer a simple question. Never admit that the IC was right, DR. Even when Trump admitted it. You and your many followers across the world, logging into to PPP to read your stuff, are the holdouts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, John Adams said: You can't even answer a simple question. Never admit that the IC was right, DR. I'll answer (again) once you admit the quote your'e talking about is NOT the quote I referenced or you cited earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I'll answer (again) once you admit the quote your'e talking about is NOT the quote I referenced or you cited earlier. Sprechen sie English? I quoted the IC twice dingdong. I can feel your many readers cringing. Come on fans of DR far and wide, register to post here at PPP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, John Adams said: I quoted the IC twice dingdong. Both were dodges, not the quote I called you out for and you are (intentionally) trying to run from: On 9/21/2019 at 7:02 PM, John Adams said: The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election. That's not a quote from the ICA. That's a falsehood which was debunked on day one by anyone who read the report. Which you have not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Both were dodges, not the quote I called you out for and you are (intentionally) trying to run from: That's not a quote from the ICA. That's a falsehood which was debunked on day one by anyone who read the report. Which you have not. Do you need me to post the quote you can't accept a 3rd time? Your fanbase wants to know why you're dodging so much. Why not just tell him that Russia didn't interfere with the election and the IC report was wrong? Edited September 24, 2019 by John Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 DNC Makes it Tougher for Lower Tier Candidates to Appear in Fifth Debate Maybe we could call them "Anti-Democracy" or that they are essentially "Cancelling Elections"....? Warren and Other Dems Call for Fracking Ban — Do they WANT to lose Colorado, Ohio, and Pennsylvania? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Elizabeth Warren doesn't know how to make the news. I assume the media want to cover Elizabeth Warren and to give her a boost and that she's just not giving them anything. Here's what I saw just now when I used Google news to search her name. It's just various sites re-analyzing the polls (which actually don't show her rising anymore!) and a prompt to switch my attention over to Bernie Sanders More at the link: BUT...................her media support continues.................... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Eyes Turn to Elizabeth Warren’s Daughter Following Surprise Endorsement by the Working Families Party By Elizabeth Vaughn In an unexpected move, the Working Families Party (WFP) has endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) after a 60.9% showing in a party wide vote. There are several reasons why this endorsement came as a surprise, especially to supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT). Sanders earned the party’s endorsement in 2016 with an 87% win in an online membership survey and it was widely believed he would receive it again. Warren’s daughter, Amelia Warren Tyagi, is the Board Chair of liberal think tank, Demos. According to Demos’ 2018 tax filing, they contributed $45,000 to the WFP in 2018, their first donation ever to the party. According to Washington Post reporter Dave Wiegel, this number (Warren’s 60.9%) combines two groups. 50% of the total, or 30.5%, is determined by the votes of WFP leaders and the other 50% is the result an online membership survey. He notes that WFP has dozens of leaders and thousands of members. The party has been asked by skeptics to release the details of the vote, however, they have refused to do so. In 2016, when the WFP endorsed Sanders, they released the separate vote tallies which can be viewed here. According to the Center for Public Integrity, the Warren campaign’s treasurer remains on the board of Demos. Given this set of circumstances, it’s only natural that Sanders’ supporters would be concerned. We won’t be too surprised to hear more about this when/if the Democratic primary turns into a two person race between Sanders and Warren. $45,000 is not a huge number so far as political contributions go, a source familiar with WFP told independent journalist Jordan Chariton that “Demos’ $$ to WFP was a “signal” that there’s more where that came from if WFP were to endorse Warren.” Chariton’s source also informed him that, “at the time of the @ewarren endorsement that they were “broke” and expect more money to come into it as a result of Warren endorsement. In light of this news, it goes without saying….” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Tulsi Gabbard has qualified for the fourth debate 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Tulsi Gabbard has qualified for the fourth debate Wow! I thought we were sticking a fork in her. I'm glad she made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Tulsi Gabbard has qualified for the fourth debate I love Gabbard. I hope she spends the entire night explaining to everyone that Kamala Harris isn't black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: I love Gabbard. I hope she spends the entire night explaining to everyone that Kamala Harris isn't black. For pure entertainment, no one tops Williamson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, John Adams said: For pure entertainment, no one tops Williamson. Williamson is a goofball. Gabbard is a combat vet with brass balls. She knows Kamala Harris is two blowjobs shy of being Biden's #2, and that she'd set back women in politics for years. It's too bad I don't like her policies, because I think she's a pretty good person with genuine intentions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: Williamson is a goofball. Gabbard is a combat vet with brass balls. She knows Kamala Harris is two blowjobs shy of being Biden's #2, and that she'd set back women in politics for years. It's too bad I don't like her policies, because I think she's a pretty good person with genuine intentions. At this point I'd vote for genuine and good person. I could probably tolerate her presidency, as she's not a congenital idiot. But she'd have to run as an independent. I won't support the Democratic party. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: At this point I'd vote for genuine and good person. I could probably tolerate her presidency, as she's not a congenital idiot. But she'd have to run as an independent. I won't support the Democratic party. I'd consider her as an independent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 hours ago, B-Man said: Elizabeth Warren doesn't know how to make the news. I assume the media want to cover Elizabeth Warren and to give her a boost and that she's just not giving them anything. Here's what I saw just now when I used Google news to search her name. It's just various sites re-analyzing the polls (which actually don't show her rising anymore!) and a prompt to switch my attention over to Bernie Sanders More at the link: BUT...................her media support continues.................... . ...and now she's out doing photo ops with UAW GM strikers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4merper4mer Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: Williamson is a goofball. Gabbard is a combat vet with brass balls. She knows Kamala Harris is two blowjobs shy of being Biden's #2, and that she'd set back women in politics for years. It's too bad I don't like her policies, because I think she's a pretty good person with genuine intentions. Harris is a female Chuck Schumer. In your face 24/7 as the intellectual, moral and solutions authority. She is going to be around a long time whether she advances far in this race or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 It's Warren's to lose now that Joe is rapidly becoming toxic to the DNC, the voters, and the public. Being a bag man for corrupt politicians has it's ramifications, Joe. Bye! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 @transplantbillsfan Bye, Joe He's got zero chance. Officially now. Zip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: @transplantbillsfan Bye, Joe He's got zero chance. Officially now. Zip. Remember how I said it's ANY Democratic candidate vs Trump because I wasn't hitching my wagon to Biden? Yeah. So there's that. But at least you put yourself on record for like the 40th time that Biden won't be the nominee. So wishy washy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Remember how I said it's ANY Democratic candidate vs Trump because I wasn't hitching my wagon to Biden? That was only after you said Joe would win and we turned it into a bet. But details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Bye, Joe! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Bye, Joe! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Bye, Joe! This is tough to deny... 1+1=2, not 3. Oh no, poor Joe! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Working out perfectly for Trump to win. Even though none of this will ultimately stick to Biden, the damage is done that his name is coming up. Dems are not going to blindly stick with him. There's a reason for the cliche, "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Not breaking... despite Paul's obsession with that word. Still correct 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Not breaking... despite Paul's obsession with that word. Still correct He was reported as being wary of running this time around and I'm too lazy to look up the exact quote but I remember it pretty closely, "They are going to bring up my boy." I remember it because of the "my boy" part. Not breaking, and he knew it was coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, John Adams said: He was reported as being wary of running this time around and I'm too lazy to look up the exact quote but I remember it pretty closely, "They are going to bring up my boy." I remember it because of the "my boy" part. Not breaking, and he knew it was coming. And he saw what happened to Al Gore and McCain. When you're party has held the prez for 8 years in dang near impossible to win. HW is the only one since the 2 term rule was put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Despicable Deplorables! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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