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...been following this club and the NFL for 56 years and am probably WAY too old to understand this strategy.....BUT....why do we bother signing a guy only to release him two or three days later?...sure brings new meaning to a lot spot with a FIFTEEN MINUTE PARKING sign......how does this differ from bringing in a guy for a tryout and not signing him?...what can possibly be gained from a two or three day signing followed by release?....what did I miss?.....

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It's part of building a football culture and the process.  I can copy and paste that answer to any Bills football question.

 

Plus it shows Kim and Terry, Beane and staff are working to earn those compensation packages.

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9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...been following this club and the NFL for 56 years and am probably WAY too old to understand this strategy.....BUT....why do we bother signing a guy only to release him two or three days later?...sure brings new meaning to a lot spot with a FIFTEEN MINUTE PARKING sign......how does this differ from bringing in a guy for a tryout and not signing him?...what can possibly be gained from a two or three day signing followed by release?....what did I miss?.....

plus the players signed are bottom of the roster players....

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8 minutes ago, nucci said:

plus the players signed are bottom of the roster players....

 

...so what is the difference of a tryout versus a two day signing?.....what can you learn from those two days on the roster versus what you would see in a tryout?......maybe it is a stupid burr in my saddle, but do we look foolish or am I losing it (it HAS been said,)??..........

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You didnt mention any specifics, but, generally it can be to cover for an injured player. For example; a cornerback is injured and the team needs depth, but only until that injured player recovers. Since they didtn put that guy on injured reserve, t hey make roster moves to cover; i.e. when Lawson and Murphy were banged up they brought in Nate Orchard.  Another scenario  might  be if they sign a player off another team's practice squad; they activate him temporarily. practice squad changes often, as a bufffer

 

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10 minutes ago, Pablocruise said:

You didnt mention any specifics, but, generally it can be to cover for an injured player. For example; a cornerback is injured and the team needs depth, but only until that injured player recovers. Since they didtn put that guy on injured reserve, t hey make roster moves to cover; i.e. when Lawson and Murphy were banged up they brought in Nate Orchard.  Another scenario  might  be if they sign a player off another team's practice squad; they activate him temporarily. practice squad changes often, as a bufffer

 

 

..thanks for the contribution bud.....exactly the type of analysis that helps me.....:thumbsup:

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54 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...been following this club and the NFL for 56 years and am probably WAY too old to understand this strategy.....BUT....why do we bother signing a guy only to release him two or three days later?...sure brings new meaning to a lot spot with a FIFTEEN MINUTE PARKING sign......how does this differ from bringing in a guy for a tryout and not signing him?...what can possibly be gained from a two or three day signing followed by release?....what did I miss?.....

They know the roster is weak and that is causing them to make changes out of desperation,jmho.

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With all of these "turnstile" signings/releases, it is strangely ironic that these transactions never relate to the actual turnstiles already on the roster, namely the two starting guards. Beane and McDermott's comittment to Ducasse alone reminds me of Al Michaels mocking of the Raiders' "commitment to excellence" slogan- refering to it as the "commitment to excrement".

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55 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...so what is the difference of a tryout versus a two day signing?.....what can you learn from those two days on the roster versus what you would see in a tryout?......maybe it is a stupid burr in my saddle, but do we look foolish or am I losing it (it HAS been said,)??..........

 

I don’t think it makes anyone look foolish. You’re trying everything possible to get better. He may look good enough to give a shot in tryouts, but for whatever reason in full practices....maybe not so much. Plus, as mentioned, it can be to offset injuries on the roster. And (if you’re the Patriots), you just want to squeeze a little knowledge out of them before game day.  ?

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12 minutes ago, RussellDopeland said:

With all of these "turnstile" signings/releases, it is strangely ironic that these transactions never relate to the actual turnstiles already on the roster, namely the two starting guards. Beane and McDermott's comittment to Ducasse alone reminds me of Al Michaels mocking of the Raiders' "commitment to excellence" slogan- refering to it as the "commitment to excrement".

 

I thought that this thread referred to our Offensive Line actually before  I read through it.

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14 minutes ago, RussellDopeland said:

With all of these "turnstile" signings/releases, it is strangely ironic that these transactions never relate to the actual turnstiles already on the roster, namely the two starting guards. Beane and McDermott's comittment to Ducasse alone reminds me of Al Michaels mocking of the Raiders' "commitment to excellence" slogan- refering to it as the "commitment to excrement".

 

The Bad Vlad who gets blamed for every O line problem

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/18/buffalo-bills-vlad-ducasse-john-miller-brian-daboll-pff/

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/7/4/17482820/2018-buffalo-bills-scouting-report-guard-vladimir-ducasse-90-players-in-90-days

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15 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

I thought that this thread referred to our Offensive Line actually before  I read through it.

It relates to both.  That's the process of the whole organization.

 

Maybe they are going a marketing route to get rid of "all America City" to "turnstile capital of the US"

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1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...been following this club and the NFL for 56 years and am probably WAY too old to understand this strategy.....BUT....why do we bother signing a guy only to release him two or three days later?...sure brings new meaning to a lot spot with a FIFTEEN MINUTE PARKING sign......how does this differ from bringing in a guy for a tryout and not signing him?...what can possibly be gained from a two or three day signing followed by release?....what did I miss?.....

How would you go about signing every free agent DT off the couch? Do you have a better way? There's goals here. There's plenty of useless DT's to sign and we will sign them all or die trying

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2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...so what is the difference of a tryout versus a two day signing?.....what can you learn from those two days on the roster versus what you would see in a tryout?......maybe it is a stupid burr in my saddle, but do we look foolish or am I losing it (it HAS been said,)??..........

100% a stupid burr in your saddle and yes, you’re losing it. 

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