row_33 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, HeHateMe said: Zion will dominate in the NBA as well... He's a Lebron level athlete with a slightly different game. If he gets a shot, he will be an all time great. he's not remotely closed to the all-around game LeBron brought from day one that's nice he bounces around all the farm-fed kids out there, the pros is another matter to DOMINATE in... as noted earlier, looks like another Sir Charles, but he was totally gifted going to the top-tier Sixers with Doc and Moses to ease into the pro grind. Big Red went 21 for 22 with dunks forbidden in an NCAA Title Game Edited March 15, 2019 by row_33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, row_33 said: he's not remotely closed to the all-around game LeBron brought from day one that's nice he bounces around all the farm-fed kids out there, the pros is another matter to DOMINATE in... as noted earlier, looks like another Sir Charles, but he was totally gifted going to the top-tier Sixers with Doc and Moses to ease into the pro grind. Big Red went 21 for 22 with dunks forbidden in an NCAA Title Game He's more of a finisher than a ball distributor that Lebron is but that is fine. But make no mistake, this guy will dominate the next level. I think he can have a Blake Griffin type rookie season.. 20 and 10 right off the bat. People forget how good he was early on in his career... And if he develops a shot, then watch out. He'll have tougher match-ups in the pros for sure but this guy is a freak of nature. He has perimeter speed and quickness vs any bigger bodies and the muscle to destroy anyone near the basket if teams try to use speed against him. His toughest match-up will be Giannis who has the size and speed to match him. And Giannis himself is a one of a kind type player too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: He routinely disrupts the offense. The only good thing I can say about him is that he is a competitor, and looks upset when he is getting out played, which is often. He is awful at passing, his 3 shot isn't good and he comes down and just pulls up far too often for his skill set. He's bad at driving. He's not good. He makes Brandon Triche look like a lottery pick. I couldn't stand Kooney and his crying mama and he makes me wish we had him back. Howard's bad. I won't move off that point. When you talk about Syracuse guards who could have been good louie mccroskey is where it is at. No one is going to miss Howard. He was never going to be good. Howard could drive last year before he got hurt and he has always been a plus defender analytically brandon triche started like 120 games in his career , he was good... just because he didkt make the league doesn’t mean he was awful... bad guy to compare Howard too SU doesn’t even make the tourney without Howard last year and that’s a fact .., if you want to be mad at someone be mad that Boeheim converted him to PG.. he isn’t a natural PG is he the typical SU guard? No... but he would start at hundred + D1 schools Edited March 15, 2019 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Can’t get away from the Zion slobber fest... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 hours ago, row_33 said: he's not remotely closed to the all-around game LeBron brought from day one that's nice he bounces around all the farm-fed kids out there, the pros is another matter to DOMINATE in... as noted earlier, looks like another Sir Charles, but he was totally gifted going to the top-tier Sixers with Doc and Moses to ease into the pro grind. Big Red went 21 for 22 with dunks forbidden in an NCAA Title Game LeBron's always going to be an unfair comparison. How many players get hype like LeBron got being a prep to pro and bust. LeBron himself was excessively hyped and immediately exceeded even those unrealistic expectations. Zion will be great, very high floor, LeBron-like ceiling. But no... I'd bet the house he doesn't have a comparable career to LeBron. Him dominating college kids only helps with a grain of salt, not hurts. People saying "he won't be able to get away with this in the pros".. no **** haha we can say that about LeBron if he played college.. what else is he supposed to do other than put up perfect stat lines. I can't say enough the dude has a damned shot lol. One of the best of his draft class.. college players suck at shooting! Hell look at the NBA, Zion's got a better shot than some of the superstars. He a) doesn't need it to be a superstar and b) absolutely does have it. Dude's got a head start in the shot department loads of players don't have coming into the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, DCOrange said: Almost nobody in the NBA can match up with him either IMO. I'm not sure anyone in the NBA right now has his combination of size and athleticism and he's a really skilled dude too. He's easily among the 3-5 best prospects to come out since LeBron IMO and might be the best. Physically, I agree. His potential is unreal. But the NBA has some lowkey guys outside of Kawhi Leonard's, Durant's, Thompson's who don't get recognition who are physically gifted and can match up with zion. Great prospect, but I just don't see the playmaking skill that lebron has in him. And I'm not a lebron fan, but I don't see Zion driving and creating his own shots. Those open threes, and back door cuts won't be there in the NBA. He could be amazing. I also think he has extraordinary bust potential because of his skill set. And for the record I was praying 3 years ago when I first saw him that cuse would find a way to get him. Edited March 16, 2019 by Ol Dirty B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Physically, I agree. His potential is unreal. But the NBA has some lowkey guys outside of Kawhi Leonard's, Durant's, Thompson's who don't get recognition who are physically gifted and can match up with zion. Great prospect, but I just don't see the playmaking skill that lebron has in him. And I'm not a lebron fan, but I don't see Zion driving and creating his own shots. Those open threes, and back door cuts won't be there in the NBA. He could be amazing. I also think he has extraordinary bust potential because of his skill set. And for the record I was praying 3 years ago when I first saw him that cuse would find a way to get him. Zion's banging 3s right now haha speak of the devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Zion's banging 3s right now haha speak of the devil Thate how it works with my bball opinions. Always looking bad lol Edited March 16, 2019 by Ol Dirty B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 This is a SU thread... not the Zion talkshow ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: This is a SU thread... not the Zion talkshow ? Frank Howard's getting blasted in the national media for tripping Zion last night.. So crossover episode 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Frank Howard's getting blasted in the national media for tripping Zion last night.. So crossover episode Crappy sportsmanship... BUT I’ve seen a lot worse overblown if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Crappy sportsmanship... BUT I’ve seen a lot worse overblown if you ask me I agree, I don't like him to begin with but that's not a new move in my opinion. I've never seen it, but it looks like something he has done before. I get being chippy, before that he turned the ball over and he grabbed at Zion while he was on the ground. I'll give him credit, it was spectacular how he tried to trip him then reach out to stop him from falling. It was 100% intentional, I don't blame him as bad as it sounds. The game was getting away, he's gonna be playing in Croatia next year. He probably felt like he had to do something to win another game. This is it. I can get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I agree, I don't like him to begin with but that's not a new move in my opinion. I've never seen it, but it looks like something he has done before. I get being chippy, before that he turned the ball over and he grabbed at Zion while he was on the ground. I'll give him credit, it was spectacular how he tried to trip him then reach out to stop him from falling. It was 100% intentional, I don't blame him as bad as it sounds. The game was getting away, he's gonna be playing in Croatia next year. He probably felt like he had to do something to win another game. This is it. I can get it. No crap... thought the same thing kinda funny... imma trip him but act like I didn’t mean too lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandBillsFan Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 This is not directly about the Syracuse game but I figured this thread was the best fit. What is with the new camera angle I keep seeing? The one were it is more shallow and moves with the play. I first noticed it in the Syracuse/Duke game. Then in the Duke/UNC game. Does anyone like this? I think it stinks for depth perception. It looks kinda like a video game. Thoughts? P.S. Not sure if others have mentioned this. I am too lazy to read all 23 pages of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Good luck today, Cuse fans...I think you're safe but ya never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierlifer Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, eball said: Good luck today, Cuse fans...I think you're safe but ya never know. They are in without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 8th seed with a potential 2nd round matchup against Gonzaga, who I think is the least frightening #1 seed. It's the ACC teams that really seem to give Syracuse fits in the tournament. Potential Sweet 16 matchup against Florida State. That said, Florida State is the ONLY other ACC team in our bracket, which I see as fortunate. Edited March 17, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: 8th seed with a potential 2nd round matchup against Gonzaga, who I think is the least frightening #1 seed. It's the ACC teams that really seem to give Syracuse fits in the tournament. Potential Sweet 16 matchup against Florida State. Still not the best draw with a potential 1 seed in the second round they did beat duke earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Still not the best draw with a potential 1 seed in the second round they did beat duke earlier They were inevitably going to have an extremely tough 2nd round matchup against either a #1 or #2. I'm happy with the bracket based on the progression of the regular season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: They were inevitably going to have an extremely tough 2nd round matchup against either a #1 or #2. I'm happy with the bracket based on the progression of the regular season. True . But even as an 11 last year they got a 3 in round 2 but I guess that’s how brackets go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: True . But even as an 11 last year they got a 3 in round 2 but I guess that’s how brackets go I'm excited for the tournament but they've over performed recently in tournaments. I'm feeling like they're due for an early exit. Not the greatest logic, just how I'm feeling about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I'm excited for the tournament but they've over performed recently in tournaments. I'm feeling like they're due for an early exit. Not the greatest logic, just how I'm feeling about it. If Howard can play like he did the other night against Duke, and assuming battle is back, they could make some noise. I'm not expecting much though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Cuse v UB to get to the final four. Mark it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 We get spanked by the Zags in the 2nd game.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 10:00 pm tip on Thursday ?? Cancel all my Friday appointments.... 2 hours ago, HeHateMe said: We get spanked by the Zags in the 2nd game.. Perhaps. Just like the rest of this season...depends on which SU team shows up. I think we CAN beat any team in the NCAAs including any of the #1 seeds. Duke scares me the most. Gonzaga the least of the 1s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: 10:00 pm tip on Thursday ?? Cancel all my Friday appointments.... Perhaps. Just like the rest of this season...depends on which SU team shows up. I think we CAN beat any team in the NCAAs including any of the #1 seeds. Duke scares me the most. Gonzaga the least of the 1s. I took a half day Thursday and all of Friday off, so I am good to go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Ouch! I wonder what he did?? Time for Jalen Carey to be thrown to the wolves I guess.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Ouch! I wonder what he did?? Time for Jalen Carey to be thrown to the wolves I guess.... Wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 What the hell happened??? Seriously weird. Well, so much for thinking we had a chance to get to the Sweet 16 at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I got some feelers out there. Doesn’t sound like the violation is academic in nature. I’m curious as hell to find out what he did. Dumb ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I got some feelers out there. Doesn’t sound like the violation is academic in nature. I’m curious as hell to find out what he did. Dumb ass. Could it be repercussions for the trip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Could it be repercussions for the trip? I don’t think so. I believe that would come down from the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Could it be repercussions for the trip? That was what I initially thought, myself. 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I don’t think so. I believe that would come down from the NCAA. Unless the school chose to do it themselves. It looks better for the school if they do it. Besides, I don't know if this would have come down from the NCAA. It wasn't flagrant. But the school has probably gotten some bad press because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I like our chances more now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I don’t think so. I believe that would come down from the NCAA. Breaking athletic department policy can be moral or ethical violations on or off court student athlete bringing bad press to school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Breaking athletic department policy can be moral or ethical violations on or off court student athlete bringing bad press to school I don’t think this has anything to do with the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 There's no chance that Howard got suspended for failing to trip a player. Come on. Clearly he did something else since then. Considering his rumored past incidents it's not hard to imagine him being an idiot. As for how the team plays without him, I'd guess Battle plays PG and Boeheim plays SG and they basically play the entire game. Maybe Carey spells one of them for a short stretch here and there but I don't even think that's a certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I don’t know what it is yet. Should know shortly. I did just learn that JB found out today at practice. The timing is interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Battle will be back. That's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I don’t know what it is yet. Should know shortly. I did just learn that JB found out today at practice. The timing is interesting. F5 F5 F5 F5 F5!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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