Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: I'm still taking Rosen over Allen everytime. That's how I bad I feel about Allen's chances of success. That's because you staked out a position at the draft and you're unwilling or unable to come off that position for ANY purpose. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Rosen had three other passes that should have been picks that were drops by the DB's. I'm serious, it truly was a horrendous game. And his body language was awful as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You should start up the Jills again. ORLY? Just admit it, you're a "Wrong Josh" guy, and no matter how ***** Rosen looks or how good Allen does, you'll never acknowledge it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: ORLY? Just admit it, you're a "Wrong Josh" guy, and no matter how ***** Rosen looks or how good Allen does, you'll never acknowledge it. Did you read the post or you just want to homer it up? I posted that one INT and the fumbles were on Rosen. Pom Pom time for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, joesixpack said: That's because you staked out a position at the draft and you're unwilling or unable to come off that position for ANY purpose. I was a Darnold guy all the way and had issues with both Allen and Rosen (I'm a UCLA alum and by all rights should have liked Rosen better than I did (and do)). Still way to early to judge in any case. Let's let this play out over the next few years. Both Allen and Darnold are on horrible offenses, and AZ's problems are punctuated by the fact that they're not only not playing their best QB; they're not suiting him up to save cash. Can't imagine that sits well with the other players on that team, which looks like a dumpster fire right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: What rookie QB would have done well behind that OL last night against Denver's front? None of them I'd say. Patrick Mahomes did purty good and since he hasn’t played 16 games he’s technically a rookie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I'm pretty sure there are certain folks tied to analytics that based on said criteria massively preferred Rosen to Allen. Last night's game is not dispositive, but it surely shows that nearly all rookie qbs struggle, especially when they start under less than optimum conditions. The moral ought to be, have more patience and give a fella time to develop before making definitive pronouncements on how someone will turn out. Let's see if anyone takes that to heart. Just now, BringBackOrton said: Patrick Mahomes did purty good and since he hasn’t played 16 games he’s technically a rookie. Sitting and learning for a year with Alex Smith for a mentor, Andy Reid for a head coach, and a talented offensive corps. You are joking or out to lunch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Magox said: Rosen had three other passes that should have been picks that were drops by the DB's. I'm serious, it truly was a horrendous game. And his body language was awful as well. Couple of near fumbles too. He just had no feel for the pass rush in this one. One of the fumbles he was holding the ball low around his chest and von miller knocked it out... he didn't even blindside him he just ran up and knocked it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: I'm still taking Rosen over Allen everytime. That's how I bad I feel about Allen's chances of success. BPA looks better than either of those two to be honest right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Rosen's issue all along. He played with a superior Oline and still got injured and made bad reads. What happens when he doesn't have that Oline? He sees the rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, Magox said: Rosen had three other passes that should have been picks that were drops by the DB's. I'm serious, it truly was a horrendous game. And his body language was awful as well. He may end up being a good quarterback but the "body language" May be very telling. The main reason I'm not big on him is his physical endurance and most of all his selfish entitled attitude. Still think his team will turn on him if things go badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I'm pretty sure there are certain folks tied to analytics that based on said criteria massively preferred Rosen to Allen. Last night's game is not dispositive, but it surely shows that nearly all rookie qbs struggle, especially when they start under less than optimum conditions. The moral ought to be, have more patience and give a fella time to develop before making definitive pronouncements on how someone will turn out. Let's see if anyone takes that to heart. Sitting and learning for a year with Alex Smith for a mentor, Andy Reid for a head coach, and a talented offensive corps. You are joking or out to lunch. Technically a rookie bay bay. Ask EEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeJjjjjjj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Technically a rookie bay bay. Ask EEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeJjjjjjj Technically not a rookie. Technically a 1-year vet. Theoretically a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Looks like its time, by our boards logic anyway, for Arizona to cut ties with Josh Rosen. He's a bust, obviously. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, rodneykm said: Looks like its time, by our boards logic anyway, for Arizona to cut ties with Josh Rosen. He's a bust, obviously. You'd think that, right? But NO. Only other teams' rookies are allowed to make mistakes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Technically not a rookie. Technically a 1-year vet. Theoretically a rookie. Just wait for Josh Allen week one next year bro. “He hasn’t started 16 games yet, he’s still a rookie.” I live for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: BPA looks better than either of those two to be honest right now. BPA would have been Roquan Smith. Who is very good, but basically equivalent to Tremaine Edmunds, who we acquired as well. We made the right move given the circumstances and options at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: BPA looks better than either of those two to be honest right now. The Guard from Notre Dame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: BPA would have been Roquan Smith. Who is very good, but basically equivalent to Tremaine Edmunds, who we acquired as well. We made the right move given the circumstances and options at the time. Wrong. The right move would have been keeping Preston Brown and drafting Ridley instead of Edmunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Just wait for Josh Allen week one next year bro. “He hasn’t started 16 games yet, he’s still a rookie.” I live for it Ha! Fair enough, Im sure some here will make that argument. I dont agree with the "rookie" designation, but will say that even if he started all 16 games this year, it is still too soon to make any absolute declarations on whether he's a bust or not. Just now, BringBackOrton said: Wrong. The right move would have been keeping Preston Brown and drafting Ridley instead of Edmunds. You lost me on all agreements right there. Brown is a bum and soft. He had to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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