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Ray Finkel

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11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I liked it all.....I did wish we would have remained aggressive in the 2nd half but we were up by mulitple scores

 

 

with that kind of lead it didn't bother me so much with letting off the gas. it saved from making any mistakes that could of allowed the vikes back in the game. real impressed with the defense holding up all 4 quarters and keeping the vikes in check only allowing the one td and breaking up the two point conversion.

 

if I didn't see it with my own two eyes, I wouldn't of believed the outcome. McD had them well prepared and the slack all week with the point spread and being considered the worst team in the league, really fueled this team beyond expectations.

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4 hours ago, K-9 said:

I have one nitpick and it’s not about the play calling. It’s about clock management. He needs to be in Allen’s ear about taking maximum time off the clock when it suits our purpose. Saw precious little of that in the third quarter. Was much better in the fourth, but we gave the Vikings three minutes of extra time in the third by not milking the clock. Coaches like Belichick manage the clock with leads as early as the first quarter just for comparison sake. 

 

That said, great job of play calling. Too bad Josh was hurt by some key drops, too. 

I thought he was often getting the play in late. Josh had to look over the defense starting at 10 seconds to go on play clock. 

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On 9/23/2018 at 1:51 PM, COTC said:

The illegal formations were odd.

This made me feel like I was watching the Pats at times...again more parallels with Daboll. But the looks they try to give defenses always are borderline LOS issues. When they aren't, they seem to work well in packaging plays.

 

I'm still geeking over the fake screen pass TD to Croom. Just like @Kmart128 said, it's amazing what success with the run game and screen pass can open up when used effectively. 

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7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

We saw a regression from Daboll today IMO with not enough emphasis on the running game to set up the pass. 

Way more than that. A few interesting passes to the slants /short runs in the 1st quarter, including a few double back sets. Then it seemingly was deep passes galore, no hot outlets for Allen in case of (the many) blitzes or to dump off. It made little sense. Sure Josh has the arm for it but even on 3rd and short the wideouts were all going deep. What about one checkdown guy? And I recall 2 designed QB runs. One on a 1st and 20, one when down 19 or 22-0. 

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Just now, Jerome007 said:

Way more than that. A few interesting passes to the slants /short runs in the 1st quarter, including a few double back sets. Then it seemingly was deep passes galore, no hot outlets for Allen in case of (the many) blitzes or to dump off. It made little sense. Sure Josh has the arm for it but even on 3rd and short the wideouts were all going deep. What about one checkdown guy? And I recall 2 designed QB runs. One on a 1st and 20, one when down 19 or 22-0. 

 

 

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I thought today was a really dumb game plan from the offense. The Packers have a great pass rush, we knew that going in but the Daboll seems to have thought that somehow the O Line could deal with it. There should have been way more screens, quick slants, hitches or shovel passes to avoid this. Instead they played into the Packers hands by pushing Allen into throwing deep balls with little time to set up.   Allen took a huge beating because of this, with sacks, hurries and knock downs after the throws.  The Bills receivers just cannot get any separation from Dbs and they have difficulty with the zip Allen puts on the ball (judging by more drops today). Cannot stand that we constantly seem unprepared for teams whose strengths we know. Just plain dumb.

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4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

 

There is your answer.  Daboll is going to have different game plans and evaluate what works and doesn't with these guys.

Talent wise most of it won't work.

 

If anyone thinks the Offensive talent is anywhere close to taking this team to the playoffs well that isn't going to happen.

For all those that want to run run run all I got to say is if you take JA rushing stats out I don't think the Bills RBs are averaging 3.5 yard per carry.

I'm not praising Daboll just stating that this is a very bad offense with a raw rookie QB.  Prepare for it.

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The NFL has morphed into a quick pass league. Don’t hold the ball for more than a second or two. Don’t let he defense ever get close enough for a sack. 

That’s why these old, immobile QBs can still play. 

Long passing routes with double moves are so five years ago.

Daboll has to get with the modern game plan.

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When your line can't block and you QB can't process fast and get the ball out then it doesn't leave many plays in the playbook worth calling. 

 

I do wonder if we have a wide receiver bubble screen though. I see other teams run that play effectively every week. 

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Just now, Gray Beard said:

The NFL has morphed into a quick pass league. Don’t hold the ball for more than a second or two. Don’t let he defense ever get close enough for a sack. 

That’s why these old, immobile QBs can still play. 

Long passing routes with double moves are so five years ago.

Daboll has to get with the modern game plan.

Yep. Thought the play calling last week was great, but today was putrid. May not all be on daboll, but I thought last week was much better 

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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

When your lone can't block and you QB can't process fast and get the ball out then it doesn't leave many plays in the playbook worth calling. 

 

I do wonder if we have a wide receiver bubble screen though. I see other teams run that play effectively every week. 

Except one WR screen to Holmes, who is known for being elusive and shifty and breaking tackles WTF?! There were no screens I recall. 

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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

When your line can't block and you QB can't process fast and get the ball out then it doesn't leave many plays in the playbook worth calling. 

 

I do wonder if we have a wide receiver bubble screen though. I see other teams run that play effectively every week. 

 

Then don't call long developing routes that call for the QB to work through progressions that have him holding the ball. 

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