26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 Gruden's Scouting System Led to Divide in Building Raiders coach Jon Gruden broke down film a certain way when he was preparing for games in the Monday Night Football booth. That method has not changed now that he's back coaching. But the manner in which he evaluates personnel -- and the people who have his ear -- has led to a disconnect in a Raiders building filled with people still trying to adjust to a new way of life. According to sources, Gruden essentially has his own staff that helps him judge talent and make decisions -- most notably confidant and Director of Football Research Dave Razzano -- along with a slew of interns and assistants. Gruden had his own draft board and has his own pro board, separate from those used by others in the organization. Previously a longtime and respected NFL scout, Razzano rose to prominence as a voice on Twitter with controversial takes that included Von Miller will be a bust and Jake Locker should go No. 1 in the draft. He was dubbed the "rogue scout," but now has an office near Gruden's. And while there is no animosity with GM Reggie McKenzie -- quite the opposite -- it's clear to many of the scouts who signed on to work for McKenzie that Gruden is listening mostly to those in his circle. 1
HansLanda Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 McKenzie will part ways with the organization after this year...Ownership has to be all-in with the $100M coach.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2018 Author Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 12:07 PM, HansLanda said: McKenzie will part ways with the organization after this year...Ownership has to be all-in with the $100M coach. Expand Mark Davis will ultimately regret his decision to bring Gruden back. 9 2
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 12:07 PM, HansLanda said: McKenzie will part ways with the organization after this year...Ownership has to be all-in with the $100M coach. Expand ...long standing rumor is Bruce Allen will bolt the Redskins to reunite with Gruden from their Tampa Bay days................
aristocrat Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 Yikes. They better figure out the draft boards with all the high picks they have coming. You miss on those the losses mount up and you end up like the browns 1
HansLanda Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 12:12 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Mark Davis will ultimately regret his decision to bring Gruden back. Expand If he hasn't already been having buyer's remorse. And it's only week 3. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2018 Author Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 12:29 PM, HansLanda said: If he hasn't already been having buyer's remorse. And it's only week 3. Expand It's one thing to make him the HC after being away from the game for so long, but giving him full control over the football operations is an entirely different matter. 3
Jpsredemption Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 I wonder if our current pro personnel scouting is causing a divide. Can't get much worse.
K-9 Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 12:12 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Mark Davis will ultimately regret his decision to bring Gruden back. Expand I don’t know. When I look at his haircut, I doubt Mark Davis is capable of regretting anything. 7
Happy Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 12:59 PM, K-9 said: I don’t know. When I look at his haircut, I doubt Mark Davis is capable of regretting anything. Expand Well, he could select the wrong sized bowl. That could cause regret. 1
Troll Toll Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 I really don’t get the Gruden hate. They have been in both games to the end this year, one of which was against a Super Bowl favorite. There is a reason they moved on from the last coaching staff. Give the guy a chance. 1
SoTier Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 12:39 PM, Jpsredemption said: I wonder if our current pro personnel scouting is causing a divide. Can't get much worse. Expand There's no divide on the Bills because all of the scouts were fired shortly after Whaley got the axe and replaced with hand-picked pals of McDermott and Beane, mostly from -- surprise -- Carolina. IIRC, there was a report shortly after the Raiders traded Mack that Gruden's move caught the Raiders FO somewhat by surprise. I'm guessing that that report stemmed from this divide.
Happy Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 12:12 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Mark Davis will ultimately regret his decision to bring Gruden back. Expand Agree. McKenzie will leave first, Gruden will insert his 'yes' man in McKenzie's old position, the Raiders organization will look like a bigger $*&! show than the Bills, and Gruden is the first firing of the Vegas Raiders era. 1
mannc Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 11:54 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: Gruden's Scouting System Led to Divide in Building Raiders coach Jon Gruden broke down film a certain way when he was preparing for games in the Monday Night Football booth. That method has not changed now that he's back coaching. But the manner in which he evaluates personnel -- and the people who have his ear -- has led to a disconnect in a Raiders building filled with people still trying to adjust to a new way of life. According to sources, Gruden essentially has his own staff that helps him judge talent and make decisions -- most notably confidant and Director of Football Research Dave Razzano -- along with a slew of interns and assistants. Gruden had his own draft board and has his own pro board, separate from those used by others in the organization. Previously a longtime and respected NFL scout, Razzano rose to prominence as a voice on Twitter with controversial takes that included Von Miller will be a bust and Jake Locker should go No. 1 in the draft. He was dubbed the "rogue scout," but now has an office near Gruden's. And while there is no animosity with GM Reggie McKenzie -- quite the opposite -- it's clear to many of the scouts who signed on to work for McKenzie that Gruden is listening mostly to those in his circle. Expand This will not end well.
nucci Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 Did a nice job trading the best defensive player on the league 1
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) On 9/23/2018 at 12:12 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Mark Davis will ultimately regret his decision to bring Gruden back. Expand Gruden at his best fill holes with Vets and finds immediate but very short success...his drafts are terrible, he has no patience for rookies and his teams age quickly. Then when he gets mired in mediocrity or worse(of his own doing) he doesn't have the patience for it and steps down or gets fired...that is his MO. Edited September 23, 2018 by matter2003
jr1 Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 Gruden reminds Davis of himself. They both have similar douche mannerisms so Davis gets to live out his dream of being a head coach through Gruden
Augie Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 2:25 PM, mannc said: This will not end well. Expand ....and it will be glorious! He was not popular in Tampa with many players and fans. Players came out and said he couldn’t be trusted. I learned to dislike him on a personal level after being up close and personal for more than I would have liked.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 1:01 PM, Happy Gilmore said: Well, he could select the wrong sized bowl. That could cause regret. Expand
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