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21 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

Mahomes is Josh Allen with much better instincts. 

 

It's unfathomable to me that we passed on Mahomes just to go after Allen with a higher pick the next season. 

 

Truly mind boggling. 

I think Allen has great instincts from what I've seen so far...he shuffles in the pocket and feels pressure very well. Keeps his eyes downfield on the move and throws strikes.

 

Mahomes had an entire year in the Chiefs system. You are comparing a year 2 guy to a rookie. Not a fair comparison. Mahomes didn't play last year until the last week of the season.

 

Quite a big difference in skill players and the OLine around him as well. Lets not kid ourselves.

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4 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

What was your Allen grade?

 

Pretty similar. Had him slightly lower than I had Mahomes actually I think. Would have to check. Had them in the same range though. They were similar to me in that they were both very high ceiling guys but with some fundamentals questions which made me doubt them getting there. 

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6 minutes ago, StrikeParry said:

But Allen has done nothing to contradict that feeling that we DID screw up...yet. Let’s all hope you’re right, for our collective sanity’s sake.

 

People said the same thing about Watson, that we made a mistake not drafting him. But he didn't look good at all today and it's not like the Patriots defense is elite. It's going to take a lot more than one game for Mahomes to prove anything. I mean I get it, he's making good reads and getting the ball to his playmakers. That's all you can do as a QB. But he hasn't done anything to make me think he could play with our roster and be successful. Every one of his completions have been routine throws. One thing I'll give him credit for is no interceptions. I expected some turnovers.

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20 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

This isn't really true. We wouldn't have both of them but we could have easily had one of them (likely Edmunds). 

 

Also I don't really care about making the playoffs. The goal is to win Super Bowls. 

 

I argued for Mahomes throughout the season before that Draft. His first and biggest backer on BBMB.

 

It pains me still we decided to trade out and not take him but he’s in the perfect spot. We’d probably ruin him with our OL and weapons.

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Pretty similar. Had him slightly lower than I had Mahomes actually I think. Would have to check. Had them in the same range though. They were similar to me in that they were both very high ceiling guys but with some fundamentals questions which made me doubt them getting there. 

Do you have a link to your 2017 evaluations?  I'd love to reread them.

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

People said the same thing about Watson, that we made a mistake not drafting him. But he didn't look good at all today and it's not like the Patriots defense is elite. It's going to take a lot more than one game for Mahomes to prove anything. I mean I get it, he's making good reads and getting the ball to his playmakers. That's all you can do as a QB. But he hasn't done anything to make me think he could play with our roster and be successful. Every one of his completions have been routine throws. One thing I'll give him credit for is no interceptions. I expected some turnovers.

Watson outscored Tyrod Taylor last year in 7 games.

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27 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

It does help to have an offensive line, pro bowl tight end and receivers that get separation. Mahomes would have been ruined in Buffalo.

Buffalo has the worst group of wideouts I've seen. None of them can get off press coverage and I see almost no speed or separation

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3 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

Do you have a link to your 2017 evaluations?  I'd love to reread them.

 

Watson outscored Tyrod Taylor last year in 7 games.

 

I can never find them on my phone. If you search my name in that February - April 2017 period they are on here. Otherwise I will try and dig out when on the laptop. 

 

Watson had a rough first half today. He played well after half time. He is still a stud. He had one slightly below par day. 

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16 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

Mahomes is Josh Allen with much better instincts. 

 

It's unfathomable to me that we passed on Mahomes just to go after Allen with a higher pick the next season. 

 

Truly mind boggling. 

 

The bigger difference between the two is that Mahomes plays for a competent head coach and organization. 

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I can never find them on my phone. If you search my name in that February - April 2017 period they are on here. Otherwise I will try and dig out when on the laptop. 

 

Watson had a rough first half today. He played well after half time. He is still a stud. He had one slightly below par day. 

Found it.  Thanks man.

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33 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

If we take Mahomes, we don't get Edmunds or White, and then our starting corner is Vontae Davis. We have no DROY and don't make the playoffs. 

 

Did you actually convince yourself we had the DROY?

Seriously?

We didn't have the DROY.

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