Figster Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Sky Diver said: No. Allen did under throw the ball, but still close enough to give his play maker a shot in my humble opinion Sky. In the pouring rain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikeParry Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Sky Diver said: No. Okay. So which play? Can you narrow it down at all? Just want to go back and look at it Bama not trying to call you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 He needs to start, hopefully he survive this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDO'Kearney Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 This is diabolical genius. They set Peterman up to succeed in preseason and start the first game. Then they let him crash. Now, Allen can start and if he has a few hiccups NO ONE will be clamoring for Peterman. And the FA QB scene won't be all that either. Then, the Bills can play Allen all year and see if he has what it takes. If he doesn't, we'll select the Next One with the first pick in 2019... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Me supporting Peterman is the default because of the dumpster fire that is Josh Allen. If we had Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold or even Rudolph you could kick Peterman to the curb and I wouldn't say a thing about it. I watched a team gamble the farm on Ricky Vaughn and he's going to set this team back 5 years. We went from being close to contending to running an Al Davis strategy, and this staff and our team is going to pay for it. I didn't love the Allen pick either. It didn't make me root for a guy who is clearly subpar as an NFL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Me supporting Peterman is the default because of the dumpster fire that is Josh Allen. If we had Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold or even Rudolph you could kick Peterman to the curb and I wouldn't say a thing about it. I watched a team gamble the farm on Ricky Vaughn and he's going to set this team back 5 years. We went from being close to contending to running an Al Davis strategy, and this staff and our team is going to pay for it. Holy moly man. You really believe this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 He did ok, but he got vanilla looks from Baltimore. I really wish he could sit and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, TDO'Kearney said: This is diabolical genius. They set Peterman up to succeed in preseason and start the first game. Then they let him crash. Now, Allen can start and if he has a few hiccups NO ONE will be clamoring for Peterman. And the FA QB scene won't be all that either. Then, the Bills can play Allen all year and see if he has what it takes. If he doesn't, we'll select the Next One with the first pick in 2019... that was not the plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimS Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Figster said: Allen did under throw the ball, but still close enough to give his play maker a shot in my humble opinion Sky. In the pouring rain... ...and taking a shot in the chest with no follow through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: He needs to start, hopefully he survive this offense. absolutely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, StrikeParry said: Okay. So which play? Can you narrow it down at all? Just want to go back and look at it Bama not trying to call you out. It was before that. He had the CB beat but the ball was under thrown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Like I've said. If you draft a QB this early, you start him unless you have a capable veteran to start as a safety blanket. Josh Allen should've been named the starter by the 3rd week of preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Figster said: Allen clearly stands out as the best signal caller IMO. That's debatable, especially since they had a three month long QB competition and Allen lost. But the point is that as a Bills fan you'd rather have Allen as a franchise guy for 10 years right? Well that probably doesn't happen if you throw him out there too early and wreck his confidence before he's ready. It doesn't matter whether he's better than Peterman. It only matters whether he's far enough along in his development to handle being a franchise guy. Hint: he's not. Edited September 9, 2018 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Use the season to develop Josh Allen. Go get a real #2 vet qb . Have Peterman polish his resume for a job after football. Bills will have a top 5 pick next year, use it add a centerpiece. I know the game was a trainwreck but at least both Allen and Edmunds look promising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, JimS said: ...and taking a shot in the chest with no follow through. Josh Allen is a mountain of a man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: Holy moly man. You really believe this? Do I believe Josh Allen is a bad football player that was extremely expensive to acquire? Yes, yes I do. NP was essentially free. If he flamed out you could always get another guy. This staff, all of our schemes, and the entire roster is dependent on a raw rocket armed passer that couldn't put a dent in the Mountain West. The game looks like it's going a million miles an hour for him. His arm is Lamar Jackson's legs, and neither have what it takes to be NFL QBs. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, VW82 said: That's debatable, especially since they had a three month long QB competition and Allen lost. But the point is that as a Bills fan you'd rather have Allen as a franchise guy for 10 years right? Well that probably doesn't happen if you throw him out there too early and wreck his confidence before he's ready. It doesn't matter whether he's better than Peterman. It only matters whether he's far enough along in his development to handle being a franchise guy. Hint: he's not. I get that and fully understand where your coming from, but now that the beane head sent our most experienced QB packing for the likes of noodle arm Nasty Nate the Bills are stuck between a rock and a hard spot IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: The game plan will be much different next week. Open up the playbook, Daboll! IDK, does it matter w the mules we've got in the stable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, transient said: I don’t think poor play would ruin his confidence, I think poor coaching and lack of support would. If he has the talent let him take his lumps this season. He’s more mobile than Peterman and the threat of his arm should open up the running game somewhat. Spell him with Peterman for a series or two if you have to in order to let him collect his thoughts and to coach him up in game if he’s having a rough stretch, but the season would be completely wasted by continuing to start Peterman... and I personally don’t want to see him start another game for the Bills ever again. If you start yanking Allen in and out with the starters from game to game or within the game as you suggested, it's going to send the wrong message to the team (i.e. that the coaching staff doesn't know what it's doing) and to both QBs. There's a reason no one in the NFL does it like that with the exception of special play packages for guys like Lamar Jackson. Allen isn't that type of QB. Also, the scenario you describe (i.e. lack of support) is exactly what he's facing. His Oline sucks, and his WRs don't get separation. That's the definition of lack of QB support. This is to say nothing of the fact that not even McBeane knows for certain whether Daboll is the right guy yet. There's way more downside than upside to starting him this early. Edited September 9, 2018 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Do I believe Josh Allen is a bad football player that was extremely expensive to acquire? Yes, yes I do. NP was essentially free. If he flamed out you could always get another guy. This staff, all of our schemes, and the entire roster is dependent on a raw rocket armed passer that couldn't put a dent in the Mountain West. The game looks like it's going a million miles an hour for him. His arm is Lamar Jackson's legs, and neither have what it takes to be NFL QBs. The problem is that "another guy" has never gotten us past 9-7. Like, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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