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Thought this was a good read considering he’s a former Bill

 

 

From the minute I first met him, there was just kind of this aura around him,” McCloy, who had pictures of Reggie from high school on the wall of the entry way of his gym, explained. “His abilities were always significantly different than his peers—call it God’s plan, call it destiny—something along those lines, but I think his potential is limitless.

“I don’t think we’ve seen even close to the best version of what he’s capable of putting out there. He’s a next-level type of guy and I just think as he learns how to be a pro, gets integrated more in the Kansas City system, we’re going to see more and more of that come out.”[/quote{

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Reggie seems like a great kid. I hope he has a successful career in K.C. 

 

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Not a fit for the 4-3.

 

Yes, I do think that was a major part of it - recovering an asset for a player who didn’t fit the scheme. 

 

 

But I also think that they wanted to give this kid a real chance at having a successful NFL career somewhere that he is a fit, maybe in part because of what a high character guy he is. 

 

IIRC Beane may have mentioned something along those lines in an interview. 

I don’t remember the exact quote, and I don’t know if it was in reference to the Ragland trade, but he said something about how sometimes a trade is also about giving that player a chance to be successful too. 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Reggie seems like a great kid. I hope he has a successful career in K.C. 

 

Yes, I do think that was a major part of it - recovering an asset for a player who didn’t fit the scheme. 

 

 

But I also think that they wanted to give this kid a real chance at having a successful NFL career somewhere that he is a fit, maybe in part because of what a high character guy he is

 

IIRC Beane may have mentioned something along those lines in an interview. 

I don’t remember the exact quote, and I don’t know if it was in reference to the Ragland trade, but he said something about how sometimes a trade is also about giving that player a chance to be successful too.

 

Maybe.  But I'd bet that only teams that ran the 3-4 were interested in him.

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I always liked Ragland. I still think he's going to be a good LB in this league. In our system I don't know if he was athletic enough. As a 3-4 ILB though? I think he's going to be solid at the least. 

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8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Had we stayed in a 3/4 I think this guy could have made a career in Buffalo

 

but.....

 

Now we have Tremaine Edmunds so

 

 

Exactly.  And Edmunds will be an actual day 1 starter.

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Not a fit for the 4-3.

stubborn old Mcdermott.
I have brought this up before in the " fitting the players to the scheme vs fitting scheme to the players "
it did not go well for me if i recall.
Sean does Sean it seems.

 aint nuthin wrong with that

 i guess. 

1 hour ago, Sky Diver said:

Great story. Thanks for posting. He’s definitely one of the good guys.

Agreed good story and agreed thanks to Yolo !

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36 minutes ago, Buftex said:

I must say his (non) career in Buffalo is one of the biggest disappointments for me, over the last 5 years or so.  I was really excited about seeing this kid play in Buffalo.

Me too. Great instinct. Moving to the ball before it was snapped made up for his semi slow recorded open field speed.
Thought he would be a much better and more dominant Preston Brown.

if you ever watched Spikes closely, he would be moving to the play before any one else when he was on his game. slow as hell. but stacked and shed quickly because he read the play so well. Ragland is the modern level of that upgraded.But sure as heck no Lukely
oh well.

44 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Exactly.  And Edmunds will be an actual day 1 starter.

the only reason Reggie would not have been under Rex was his injury ?

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Or a schwartz style 43 scheme where mlb is a run stuffer instead of sideline to sideline

point well taken.

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29 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

stubborn old Mcdermott.
I have brought this up before in the " fitting the players to the scheme vs fitting scheme to the players "
it did not go well for me if i recall.
Sean does Sean it seems.

 aint nuthin wrong with that

 i guess.

 

I won't argue with the results of last season.

 

23 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

Or a schwartz style 43 scheme where mlb is a run stuffer instead of sideline to sideline

 

Perhaps, but I suspect McD saw enough of him to believe it wouldn't work out.  It would have been just as easy to keep him as ship him out.

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18 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I won't argue with the results of last season.

 

 

Perhaps, but I suspect McD saw enough of him to believe it wouldn't work out.  It would have been just as easy to keep him as ship him out.

the thing that irked me? he was nearly free money. Even if he only played two downs.

 McD did not play the business side as well as i might have hoped. he is too much a straight shooter with blinders on. Build up Raglands value for one year or so as two down LB and see how it plays out. run a darned hybrid 3-4 !

 did anyone notice Bills could NOT stop the run game at times last year ?

20 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Yeah, for sure. 

 

He’s definitely a specific scheme fit type of player. 

he is a thumper +

 how much plus ?  Bills never looked into. seemingly

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19 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I won't argue with the results of last season.

 

 

Perhaps, but I suspect McD saw enough of him to believe it wouldn't work out.  It would have been just as easy to keep him as ship him out.

 

Well, yea, which is why I made the distinction between different 43 schemes and did not say he would’ve been successful here.

 

that said, for the low compensation we got- id say I’d keep him on a rookie deal as depth. But not losing sleep.

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46 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Me too. Great instinct. Moving to the ball before it was snapped made up for his semi slow recorded open field speed.
Thought he would be a much better and more dominant Preston Brown.

if you ever watched Spikes closely, he would be moving to the play before any one else when he was on his game. slow as hell. but stacked and shed quickly because he read the play so well. Ragland is the modern level of that upgraded.But sure as heck no Lukely
oh well.

the only reason Reggie would not have been under Rex was his injury ?

point well taken.

 

 

Who knows.  The point is the Edmunds is a far better pick than Ragland---who is still struggling to "get there".

 

 

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