Buffalo_Gal Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Ashley Kavanaugh Receiving Death Threats via WSJ: Judge Kavanaugh’s wife, Ashley Estes Kavanaugh, also has faced threats, which are being investigated by the U.S. Marshals Service, a senior administration official said Thursday. Mrs. Kavanaugh has received two profane notes in her work email account in recent days, the official said. Both notes, which have been reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, were sent from the same email address. One of the notes to Mrs. Kavanaugh, a town manager in the suburbs of Washington, D.C., reads, “May you, your husband and your kids burn in hell.” The other, whose subject line reads, “Hi, Ashley,” says she should tell her husband to “put a bullet in his … skull.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Quote Seung Min KimVerified account @seungminkim FollowFollow @seungminkim --Ford does NOT want Kavanaugh in the room when she testifies, and she asked that Kavanaugh testify first 4:51 PM - 20 Sep 2018 Quote Jeff B.Verified account @EsotericCD FollowFollow @EsotericCD Jeff B. Retweeted Seung Min Kim As per usual with Ford's attorney, they are going for the Impossible Ask, a request no reasonable side could ever agree to. In this case, the poison pill is her going second and him going first. That inverts every principle in the book (no chance to rebut accusations). The reason you make impossible demands (in any context, legal or otherwise) is because you are secretly unwilling to perform, but you don't want the onus of demurring to fall on you. You make it about other party's "unwillingness to compromise." Textbook stuff. Stephen MillerVerified account @redsteeze 12m12 minutes ago Ford’s lawyers & Democrats have made their demands and then obstructed the process every single time their demands are met. - Show up Monday. - Answer our questions - If security is concern. Do it in private If not, schedule the vote & be done with this. “We can’t have old white republican men questioning her.” “Okay we’ll have female outside counsel do it.” “No deal.” . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Obfuscation has always been the dems MO. They don't want to solve anything that will take away their talking points. See DACA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, Cinga said: Holy crap! WTF am I missing? I gave up after 9 paragraphs of "Seniors don't study much". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: But justice victimizes the accusers. It's why the Obama administration grossly abused Title IX to force schools to levy administrative punishment, on a "preponderance of evidence" rather than "reasonable doubt" basis. This is pretty much the same thing - administrative punishment for an accusation of a criminal act, because the justice system "won't believe the victim." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Normal Americans don't want to live in a world where the anonymous charge rules over logic and rational inquiry and empiricism. “You can’t prove he DIDN’T do it” is the position of idiots, liars, or craven political activists. ADDED: Quote Stephen MillerVerified account @redsteeze 3h3 hours ago More I knew it was bad news that Chevy Chase was back in the news. ? Edited September 21, 2018 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: WTF am I missing? I gave up after 9 paragraphs of "Seniors don't study much". Just the top link alone exposes the fact it is the students that literally run the all girls school. I only read parts of one of the pastebin ones, but the pics in the yearbook along with the stories, could be easily verified in the pastebin as a girls party school.... I would not in the least be surprised to learn the accusation suit her, more than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Normal Americans don't want to live in a world where the anonymous charge rules over logic and rational inquiry and empiricism. Yes they do. They just want their irrationalism to reign supreme. I so want to start an invitation-only political "Rational Party." The only platform being: we only care that you act like a rational adult and back up your position with verifiable facts. Problem is, maybe only six people would be eligible for party membership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 My real questions is what percentage of those who identify with the Democratic Party actually believe these accusations? We know the dem senators don’t, or else they wouldn’t have sat on it for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Accuser just offered to testify: Thursday, without Kavanaugh present. Republicans should schedule the vote tomorrow for next Friday, then Tuesday accept this offer. Because !@#$ this nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: Normal Americans don't want to live in a world where the anonymous charge rules over logic and rational inquiry and empiricism. “You can’t prove he DIDN’T do it” is the position of idiots, liars, or craven political activists. ADDED: ? On the upside, I guess atheism and agnosticism are things of the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, whatdrought said: My real questions is what percentage of those who identify with the Democratic Party actually believe these accusations? We know the dem senators don’t, or else they wouldn’t have sat on it for so long. Doesn't matter if the accusation is true. It only matters that it can be true, because it's illustrative of the systemic misogyny of toxic masculinity in American culture, which Kavanaugh represents. Thus, he can't be confirmed under any circumstances. Really, that's funny. Thinking the truth of an accusation matters to these people. You're talking about people who have explicitly stated that false accusations should be made to highlight the problem of toxic masculinity. Truth doesn't enter in to it. EDIT: you also have to consider that they likely do not want these charges heard. The rampant speculation provides Democrats more benefit than having the accusation aired, and NOT having it heard lets them play the victim card even harder. Edited September 21, 2018 by DC Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Accuser just offered to testify: Thursday, without Kavanaugh present. Republicans should schedule the vote tomorrow for next Friday, then Tuesday accept this offer. Because !@#$ this nonsense. Asking that he not be present seems ok to me. Asking that he testify first seems unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Accuser just offered to testify: Thursday, without Kavanaugh present. Republicans should schedule the vote tomorrow for next Friday, then Tuesday accept this offer. Because !@#$ this nonsense. And only wants questions from senators that believe her story. Ummm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Asking that he not be present seems ok to me. Asking that he testify first seems unreasonable. Not sure it's reasonable to ask Kavanaugh to not be present at his own confirmation hearings. What...no one caught that? This is still Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing we're talking about. Democrats are trying to change the actual purpose of the hearings from Senate confirmation hearings to a referendum on sexual assault. 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: And only wants questions from senators that believe her story. Ummm sure. Didn't see that part. She only wants Senate Democrats present? At Judiciary Committee hearings on SCOTUS confirmation? That takes some balls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Asking that he not be present seems ok to me. Asking that he testify first seems unreasonable. What happened to being able to confront your accuser? 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Didn't see that part. She only wants Senate Democrats present? At Judiciary Committee hearings on SCOTUS confirmation? That takes some balls... I didn't see it as a request for only dem senators present. But maybe it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: What happened to being able to confront your accuser? It re-victimizes the victim. Again: same people who abused Title IX for this purpose, to avoid recognizing the rights of the accused. (And if you point this out to anyone who support that, they'll say the accused shouldn't have rights, because they're criminals.) 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I didn't see it as a request for only dem senators present. But maybe it was? How could it not be? Think it through...not just a request to not be questioned by anyone who disbelieves her, but by anyone who insists on being objective on the matter. If you merely want to hear her story, she doesn't want you asking about it. "Only those who believe me" is a high bar, and eliminates anyone who hasn't already pre-judged Kavanaugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Accuser just offered to testify: Thursday, without Kavanaugh present. Republicans should schedule the vote tomorrow for next Friday, then Tuesday accept this offer. Because !@#$ this nonsense. Yashar Ali ?Verified account @yashar 23m23 minutes ago M Yashar Ali ?Retweeted Manu Raju A senior Senate staffer tells me that both of these are non-starters. 1. Kavanaugh will testify after Ford so that he can respond to her accusations the staffer told me 2. They will not allow witnesses to dictate who does/doesn't get subpoenaed. JULIE KELLY: Ladies, We Don’t Need To Be Part Of Your Group Therapy. “By ‘we,’ I mean America. And by ‘this,’ I mean some form of forced group therapy session for adult women who cannot move past an ugly event from their teen years and feel the need to relitigate it in public nearly four decades later. A serious vetting process for a Supreme Court nominee has suddenly devolved into the GenX version of ‘The Big Chill.'” . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Not sure it's reasonable to ask Kavanaugh to not be present at his own confirmation hearings. What...no one caught that? This is still Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing we're talking about. Democrats are trying to change the actual purpose of the hearings from Senate confirmation hearings to a referendum on sexual assault. This crap stopped resembling a confirmation hearing long before this stuff. If Kavanagh is sitting there or not, the Dems are going to be campaigning only. They have no respect for Ford, Kavanagh or any other individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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