Victory Formation Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 31 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: The starter book I recommend for people looking into a whole food plant based diet is the Engine 2: Seven Day Rescue Diet. Lots of great info and crash course in plant based eating. The Engine 2 cookbook is good as well. Even if you can make 50-75% of your meals plant based can have a huge impact. Theres no need to be worried about your protein intake. Lots of vegetable based protein options. Good point. Plant based is a lot different than vegan though. I could see myself dramatically cutting down meat, but not completely and eggs are so cheap and packed with quick protein that I don't see myself cutting that out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 37 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: Theres no need to be worried about your protein intake. Lots of vegetable based protein options. There is a need to balance your amino acids with plant based proteins and most do not have the education to do so. http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/amino-acids-balanced-diet-2189.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Good point. Plant based is a lot different than vegan though. I could see myself dramatically cutting down meat, but not completely and eggs are so cheap and packed with quick protein that I don't see myself cutting that out either. yea I don't think hardcore vegan is for most people 14 minutes ago, Limeaid said: There is a need to balance your amino acids with plant based proteins and most do not have the education to do so. http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/amino-acids-balanced-diet-2189.html https://www.forksoverknives.com/the-myth-of-complementary-protein/#gs.urMnkio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: yea I don't think hardcore vegan is for most people https://www.forksoverknives.com/the-myth-of-complementary-protein/#gs.urMnkio Interesting for I read medical textbooks in college (was a pre Veterinary medicine major) while working in college library and they emphasised this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Interesting for I read medical textbooks in college (was a pre Veterinary medicine major) while working in college library and they emphasised this. Same in med school. Fairly entrenched dogma. Edited May 29, 2018 by PirateHookerMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Diet aside, he's getting too old to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 To each his own; however, Im not going to pretend to be too smart and spit in the face of hundreds of thousands of years human evolution. My family comes from a mediterranean country where dairy, meat, fish, and poultry are all consumed in moderation and theyre among the longest living people in the world. Americans dont know how to do anything in moderation; it’s full bore all the time (to our success and detriment). Give me a 60oz steak, 3 cokes, and an apple pie for dessert. Do we really need 3 hamburger patties and half a pound of bacon on a single burger? The portion size for meals in the US is ridiculous. Having said that, I do recognize that a problem exists with the mass production of food products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Diet aside, he's getting too old to contribute. He just turned 29 in February 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Plant based diet? Is that a new term for being a vegetarian? 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: There is a need to balance your amino acids with plant based proteins and most do not have the education to do so. http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/amino-acids-balanced-diet-2189.html The heavy bean intake may make you unpopular in social situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I live by a simple diet of chicken brochally brown rice its serving me well so far but my dr wants me to lay off the rice cuz of my diabetes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Cut him. If he's not eating red meat and putting hair on his chest then we don't need his services anymore. Maybe the US men's soccer team needs another warm body to flop around the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I live by a simple diet of chicken brochally brown rice its serving me well so far but my dr wants me to lay off the rice cuz of my diabetes I’m impressed by the discipline. Great job! My son is a 25 year old fitness freak and that looks like his nightly diet. Good luck with the diabetes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Augie said: I’m impressed by the discipline. Great job! My son is a 25 year old fitness freak and that looks like his nightly diet. Good luck with the diabetes. Is simple but effective. I am down from 260 to 215 pounds this past year. Now am working out the physical damage that left behind in high blood sugar and high blood pressure.....but that is on me and I will get it worked out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Is simple but effective. I am down from 260 to 215 pounds this past year. Now am working out the physical damage that left behind in high blood sugar and high blood pressure.....but that is on me and I will get it worked out. Good luck. It's a really tough thing to do, old habits die hard. Ms. Dash makes a crap ton of seasonings that are sodium and sugar free. She's a lifesaver for flavor on a restricted salt intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Is simple but effective. I am down from 260 to 215 pounds this past year. Now am working out the physical damage that left behind in high blood sugar and high blood pressure.....but that is on me and I will get it worked out. That must feel SO MUCH BETTER! Very happy for you. That’s a lot to no longer carry around. I should drop 5-10, but that’s nothing compared to what you’ve done. Need to work on BP next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, bobobonators said: To each his own; however, Im not going to pretend to be too smart and spit in the face of hundreds of thousands of years human evolution. My family comes from a mediterranean country where dairy, meat, fish, and poultry are all consumed in moderation and theyre among the longest living people in the world. Americans dont know how to do anything in moderation; it’s full bore all the time (to our success and detriment). Give me a 60oz steak, 3 cokes, and an apple pie for dessert. Do we really need 3 hamburger patties and half a pound of bacon on a single burger? The portion size for meals in the US is ridiculous. Having said that, I do recognize that a problem exists with the mass production of food products. Although I don't promote a diet with dairy , meat and fish, your point of moderation is important, we eat way too much here. Also, research has shown that many of these people in mediterranean countries walk every day. They walk to the store, to church , to relatives.... we eat and watch tv all day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 9 hours ago, McBean said: #meatheals Preach! 10 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Oatmeal is a permanent fixture for breakfast for me, got to have complex carbs first thing in the morning, there is no other option. I'm strongly considering a high protein plant based diet but I don't know where to start. My diet has been absolutely garbage for 6 years. plant based diet are lacking in vitamins, minerals , Essential Fat, collagen, and quality protein that doesn't come with extra gas. https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/10-things-vegetarians-get-wrong https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/vegans-suck-at-science-heres-the-proof 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, klos63 said: they all can contribute to heart disease and cancer. something like 97% percent of the population has enough protein in their diet, about 97% don't have enough fiber, which is very important and not found in meat. no one is saying go on an all meat diet but vegan diets are not as healthy as an omnivore diet and are lacking in nutrients that plants simply can not provide. saying meat cause cancer is simply false, see above. Edited May 30, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I live by a simple diet of chicken brochally brown rice its serving me well so far but my dr wants me to lay off the rice cuz of my diabetes This should help with the diabetes. https://articles.mercola.com/ketogenic-diet.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Preach! plant based diet are lacking in vitamins, minerals , Essential Fat, collagen, and quality protein that doesn't come with extra gas. https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/10-things-vegetarians-get-wrong https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/vegans-suck-at-science-heres-the-proof Fake news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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