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11 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said:

Im not clear why after all these years we still don't have a cheerleading squad...are we the only NFL team to not have them? I know there was a lawsuit of some sorts but isn't it settled by now?

Why do we need them?  I think cheerleaders are a thing of the past and should be done away with.  Do we really need half-naked women dancing?  This isn't just a sport for men anymore.  Women and children watch it.  Let's grow with the times not get stuck in old ones.  

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Because Bills cheerleaders were the ugliest in the league, and an embarrassment to the entire city... unless they hire professional models/dancers like the cowboys, I don’t want them back.

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7 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said:

Im not clear why after all these years we still don't have a cheerleading squad...are we the only NFL team to not have them? I know there was a lawsuit of some sorts but isn't it settled by now?

 

No, the Bills are not the only team without cheerleaders.

 

As for clarity: They were a legal liability; the Jills sued the Bills. In fact, the Saints and Redskins are currently being sued by former cheerleaders. They add nothing to the gameday experience, and it's not worth the lawsuits for 'hostile working environments' when they're sent to be ambassadors (in skimpy outfits) to meet degenerate 'fans' who act like women exist to be groped.

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5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Because Bills cheerleaders were the ugliest in the league, and an embarrassment to the entire city... unless they hire professional models/dancers like the cowboys, I don’t want them back.

You’d need to foot the bill to have model/dancers cheer for a new Jills squad. The reality is that models/dancers aren’t going to donate their services for free. The Cowgirls have a prestige that is second to none. The Jills squad consisted of women who just wanted to have a fun experience. After all, isn’t that what life is all about? With that said, this is non-sorry. The Jills are mentioned more often than high level business meetings on TBD. They aren’t coming back, and there isn’t much more to be said imo. 

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The wishbone is a more modern idea than cheerleaders in the NFL. It’s 2018. There is no  place for them in today’s NFL.

I agree. People are WAY too politically correct these days and nothing good can come from what would inevitably be viewed as the objectification of women. 

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1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I agree. People are WAY too politically correct these days and nothing good can come from what would inevitably be viewed as the objectification of women. 

 

This. Most of the people who complain about objectification of women have ZERO problem with women who choose to use their sexuality to advance their position. It’s hypocrisy  and stupidity masquerading as progressive thought. Better just to avoid the controversy.

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8 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

 

I was with you UNTIL this question and changed my mind....  yes.

Well then we disagree.  Sports are watched by many women and children, there is no need for half-naked women in sports.  It makes zero sense from a business standpoint. It's honestly disgusting.  Absolutely no need for them in any sport.  

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1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I agree. People are WAY too politically correct these days and nothing good can come from what would inevitably be viewed as the objectification of women. 

This is where politics become hilarious. It all becomes a vicious cycle. This movement reminds me of how one can become so conservative that they become liberal, and vice versa. If society demands that all “objectification” ends through changing our culture, aren’t we potentially taking away some freedom of women? 

 

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5 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

This. Most of the people who complain about objectification of women have ZERO problem with women who choose to use their sexuality to advance their position. It’s hypocrisy  and stupidity masquerading as progressive thought. Better just to avoid the controversy.

as a progressive, i can confirm that i'm incredibly offended by the objectification of women, but i also get a thrill in my pants when half naked hotties get promoted over more qualified white men.

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2 minutes ago, Dirtbag said:

as a progressive, i can confirm that i'm incredibly offended by the objectification of women, but i also get a thrill in my pants when half naked hotties get promoted over more qualified white men.

 

Question: does anyone force cheerleaders into being cheerleaders?

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8 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

Question: does anyone force cheerleaders into being cheerleaders?

Question: What does half-naked women dancing have anything to do with what is now a family sport?  There are many other ways to promote a sport that is watched by women and children as well...

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Just now, Buffalo30 said:

Question: What does half-naked women dancing have anything to do with what is now a family sport?  There are many other ways to promote a sport that is watched by women and children as well...

 

Look I don’t disagree. But let’s not pretend grown women who voluntarily choose to dance half naked on a sideline for s living are victims of objectification. They’re not.

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5 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

Question: does anyone force cheerleaders into being cheerleaders?

Nope, and people still love being cheerleaders. They want to be cheering and dancing. It's their passion.

 

You just can't have creepy dudes running the team. The dance team should be a contracted entertainment entity. If the owner doesn't want to pay for it, fine. But if they want it, they gotta pay for it.

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4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I'd rather they hired a real dance team. 

 

So, at some point in the game, you're entertained by a quality dance routine. The position would be open to all dancers, not just women, obviously.

This would make more sense. I'd be fine with a dance team that is not just women and everyone is fully clothed.  Kids watch too.  

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Question: What does half-naked women dancing have anything to do with what is now a family sport?  There are many other ways to promote a sport that is watched by women and children as well...

Other leagues have dance teams/cheerleaders and I haven't heard of any major issues like the NFL has had.

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4 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

Look I don’t disagree. But let’s not pretend grown women who voluntarily choose to dance half naked on a sideline for s living are victims of objectification. They’re not.

Didn't say that, I don't think they should be a part of this sport.  It's a family sport.  Women and kids watch.  Women can voluntarily dance half-naked somewhere else.  Why are they needed for a family sport?  Doesn't make any sense.  

3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Other leagues have dance teams/cheerleaders and I haven't heard of any major issues like the NFL has had.

Fully clothed multi-gender dance teams should be welcome but do we really need half-naked women?  Why? That makes zero sense in today's world.

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1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said:

Didn't say that, I don't think they should be a part of this sport.  It's a family sport.  Women and kids watch.  Women can voluntarily dance half-naked somewhere else.  Why are they needed for a family sport?  Doesn't make any sense.  

 

No but some here have. Nothing worse than intellectually phony faux outrage.

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11 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

Question: does anyone force cheerleaders into being cheerleaders?

answer: damn, another good point! it never occurred to me that since women sign up for cheerleading, there's no way it can possibly be objectifying them.

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1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said:

Didn't say that, I don't think they should be a part of this sport.  It's a family sport.  Women and kids watch.  Women can voluntarily dance half-naked somewhere else.  Why are they needed for a family sport?  Doesn't make any sense.  

Even women and kids like watching beautiful people dance, actually. That's why Dancing with the Stars is so popular. You think their main audience is men?

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55 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said:

Im not clear why after all these years we still don't have a cheerleading squad...are we the only NFL team to not have them? I know there was a lawsuit of some sorts but isn't it settled by now?

 

Did you forget about the Jills already? I don't miss them. It adds nothing to my game experience. Not to mention it's a crap job for the cheerleaders. Let's move on 

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4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Even women and kids like watching beautiful people dance, actually. That's why Dancing with the Stars is so popular. You think their main audience is men?

You use people as if it is a mix of men and women.  It's not, it's just half-naked women. I stated that if they were fully clothed and it was multi-gender I wouldn't have a problem but we really need to have just half-naked women?  

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Just now, Buffalo30 said:

You use people as if it is a mix of men and women.  It's not, it's just half-naked women. I stated that if they were fully clothed and it was multi-gender I wouldn't have a problem but we really need to have just half-naked women?  

I'm saying even women and kids like watching the beautiful women half naked and dancing. It's the truth.

 

Men being creepy about it is the problem.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

You still didn't answer why half-naked women are needed for a family sport.

it has something to do with progressives being hypocrites. or, maybe to spite faux intellectualism. the target is moving...

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5 minutes ago, Dirtbag said:

answer: damn, another good point! it never occurred to me that since women sign up for cheerleading, there's no way it can possibly be objectifying them.

 

I'm getting your virtue signal loud and clear.

 

:lol:

 

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3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I'm saying even women and kids like watching the beautiful women half naked and dancing. It's the truth.

 

Men being creepy about it is the problem.

That's the point...why do they need to be half-naked and only women.  It is directed towards men.  Not all men are creepy but nobody can deny that some are.  Having them is like waiting for something to go wrong and sure enough, problems have come up.  Have a dance team that is more directed to a family or don't have one at all.  

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