BillsFan130 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zac said: That's a tough line. Vegas is good. 1. I expect our offense to be worse 2. I expect our defense to be significantly improved. 3. I expect us to be less lucky with FGs, penalties, and TOs. I think we will go 7-9 but could easily see 6-10 or 8-8/ Rick Dennison being there was a major factor for their offence being bad in my opinion, and even though I think their offence won’t be good next year, I just don’t think they can be as atrocious as last year. (Even though they did lose some good o lineman) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 feels like a Jauron year 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 It was 6.5 last year as well. The defense overachieved with turnovers last year, no doubt. I would also argue though that the offense underachieved. When the chips were on the line and they needed Tyrod to move the ball down the field, he couldn't. That's all I keep coming back to. I think whether you're talking about McCarron playing the whole year or part of a year that the offense has to improve. I don't know how you do worse than 200 YPG passing. That's just pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Zac said: That's a tough line. Vegas is good. 1. I expect our offense to be worse 2. I expect our defense to be significantly improved. 3. I expect us to be less lucky with FGs, penalties, and TOs. I think we will go 7-9 but could easily see 6-10 or 8-8/ How much worse could the offense get than in 2017 though? They were 22nd in points, 29th in yards and 28th in yards/play, 28th in net yards per pass attempt, 17th in yards per rush. I think it's more likely they improve on offense. Defensively they were below average, especially against the run, and with the addition of a MLB I think they should improve there as well. I don't see the Bills as a candidate for regression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Remember.. Vegas lines are not expert predictors. The line is designed to get equal number of bettors on each side, so the bookie makes money off transaction cost. As such, a Vegas line reflects the popular opinion of NFL fans nationwide, not necessarily careful analysis by experts. That's why during the season, how a team does "against the spread" is critical metric. As an unpopular team, the Bills typically do well against the spread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It was 6.5 last year, too. ? Was that last year, or this decade? I voted over, but barely, and mostly because I’m in a good mood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm going over and being optimistic. I think QB play is bound to improve even if we have a few turnovers. I believe McDermott's defense gets better and still is able to get fortuitous TO's to turn a few games our way. I don't see any blowouts this year. The Pats are getting worse and neither the Dolphins or Jets have improved that much. For some reason, the Bills always seem to do better against the NFC North even though the division looks tough on its face. All of that adds up to another run at the playoffs and with home games in December, don't count us out. Its a new year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Last year they also predicted Bills to win as many games they did so I'd say that is not that reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Daboll is the wildcard for this. Dennison really screwed up a functional offense last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 LOL ! virtually all the posts are from guys who voted under. Then I look above and its 63-37 the other way and hardly any posts supporting it. I'm going contrarian and I'll say OVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Rick Dennison being there was a major factor for their offence being bad in my opinion, and even though I think their offence won’t be good next year, I just don’t think they can be as atrocious as last year. (Even though they did lose some good o lineman) Unfortunately the OL coach/Run game coordinator is still here. I think he was as responsible for it as Dennison. The good news is Dennison is coaching for a AFCE rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 48 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: Yup, that 4.5 was easy money. I love the Browns over 4.5!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Augie said: Was that last year, or this decade? I voted over, but barely, and mostly because I’m in a good mood. Actually, this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Truthfully I bet the over because in my head I think the defense has a enough talent to be top10ish in the league so they are in every game they play. I don't think they will be better then 7 or 8 wins but in my head that's where I have them. The Jets and Dolphins both will be pretty bad especially with NY breaking in a rookie so if the Bills even go 2-2 vs them I think I can find 5 more wins. In my heart I am more with @Kirby Jackson and think even if the defense is improved the offense is a major work in progress and the QB position will seal the fate pretty quickly for the team. Even if Allen starts and does well he will still take his lumps (I have no faith in the other two), their pass catches are shaky at best, and the O-line needs a year to solidify. Plus the schedule is a bear and starting out 0-4 is a real possibility. I don't want this to happen but I have this awful feeling we are 2-5 or 1-6 for the nightgame against NE and the season is straight up toast. Edited May 1, 2018 by corta765 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I love the Browns over 4.5!! Since it’s the Browns, they’ll probably win just enough that they don’t know what to do about Hue Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Hell, I'd take this bet at 7.5. Are the odds better?How can I make a Bet without going to Vegas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 29 minutes ago, boater said: Remember.. Vegas lines are not expert predictors. The line is designed to get equal number of bettors on each side, so the bookie makes money off transaction cost. As such, a Vegas line reflects the popular opinion of NFL fans nationwide, not necessarily careful analysis by experts. That's why during the season, how a team does "against the spread" is critical metric. As an unpopular team, the Bills typically do well against the spread. That’s a bit misleading. 2017 the Bills went 10-6-1 ATS, that is the first time since 2006 that they were 10-6 ATS. In the years in between they ranged from 6-9 wins and only hit 9 wins once IIRC. If you bet the Bills every game for the past decade you would be a loser -the action. Looking at that same time period, NE and GB two of the most popular teams look to have the most success ATS on a week to week basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Miami sucks, New England collapses due to age and injury, and NYJets struggle under Darnold. Bills go 10-6. No more loosing seasons. Edited May 1, 2018 by Tatonka68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffaloflash said: Hell, I'd take this bet at 7.5. Are the odds better?How can I make a Bet without going to Vegas? Bovada. I would suggest finding a line that you see more than a single game difference. If you can get out in front of it early it’s a lot less stressful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 If we get a legit backup rb I think we can get that over for sure. Our defense is gonna play against some seriously name brand qbs this year as well. Like murderers row playing in nfc north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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