SouthNYfan Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:15 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Minimum of 46 fire McBean threads happen. Expand So fire both the coach and the GM??
Roundybout Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:18 PM, MAJBobby said: Hmmm really yet the NY Jets were able to get in a spot to get their QB. Hmmmm It is a failure of a plan that was set in Motion with the trade down last draft Expand Jets only had to get up 3 spots and gave up absurd amounts of capital to do it. We have to go much farther. 12 is not as attractive as 6.
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:18 PM, MAJBobby said: Hmmm really yet the NY Jets were able to get in a spot to get their QB. Hmmmm It is a failure of a plan that was set in Motion with the trade down last draft Expand Hmmmm they only had to find a team willing to move 3 spots. Really 2 as that team isn't taking a QB. Colts weren't taking 12 with the Jets offering 3 free 2nd rounders. Jets were already far ahead of the Bills due to their 2017 finish.
MAJBobby Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:20 PM, BillsEnthusiast said: Jets only had to get up 3 spots and gave up absurd amounts of capital to do it. We have to go much farther. 12 is not as attractive as 6. Expand And just saying trades happen. So those saying well we couldnt get there is bumpkiss. There was already One trade out in the top 5. And why was this draft capital aquired again?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 McBeane? you there? get it right or there will be serious consequences!
MAJBobby Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:21 PM, Boatdrinks said: Hmmmm they only had to find a team willing to move 3 spots. Really 2 as that team isn't taking a QB. Colts weren't taking 12 with the Jets offering 3 free 2nd rounders. Jets were already far ahead of the Bills due to their 2017 finish. Expand And when the colts Move again??? So again a trade happened. A package could have been made even at 2 as Gettlmen is saying essentially it is for sale. OBD put this plan in motion they either finish it or it is a failure what is so hard to see about that
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 There's been exactly one trade made in the top ten of the draft. Moved a grand total of three spots. Capital means squat if no one wants to move where your pick is. 4
pepsicat17 Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 You would hear the cry of a million folding tables being broken. 1
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:23 PM, MAJBobby said: And when the colts Move again??? So again a trade happened. A package could have been made even at 2 as Gettlmen is saying essentially it is for sale. OBD put this plan in motion they either finish it or it is a failure what is so hard to see about that Expand So 6 is high enough? It might not be. Can't move to 6 until the draft starts. 5 is possible. I highly doubt the NYG trade out of 2. With anyone. I'll agree, if the Bills don't get one of the top 4 QB prospects in this draft the plan didn't work. Could something else pan out? Sure, but the plan didn't work initially. There'd be no other way to sum it up.
Mickey Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Smith and Nelson will be long gone by 12. Not really any game changers past the top 10 or so. Maybe an OT or a DE.
Fadingpain Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:05 PM, qwksilver said: Then I feel as if Beane has failed. They spent 9 months gathering picks and they can't take the final step (s). Maybe then take Rudolf or Jackson at 22, which ever lasts that long. Still a colossal failure. Expand Bingo! Not getting one of the big QBs is failure, and there is no way around that.
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:29 PM, Mickey said: Smith and Nelson will be long gone by 12. Not really any game changers past the top 10 or so. Maybe an OT or a DE. Expand Colts GM Ballard says he thinks there are 8 " elite" players in this draft outside the 4 QB prospects. Fwiw. That would leave one of these players available at 12.
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Best LB available and then best QB left at 22. (Jackson or Rudolph?)
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) On 4/23/2018 at 10:33 PM, buffaloboyinATL said: Best LB available and then best QB left at 22. (Jackson or Rudolph?) Expand That's the perfect way to continue nondescript mediocrity towards another generation of irrelevance. Edited April 23, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1
Rico Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:05 PM, mattstev said: lol, you can't make a trade happen though, its possible 4 gone in top 5 and nobody willing to trade. So everyone would just take jackson at 12 then and if he's gone?? I too think it needs to be a franchise QB, but i'm tired of QB posts, what is the back up plan? I would prefer Rudolph at 22 and something else at 12. Expand Like the Million Dollar Man once said, "Everybody has a price." If you want to trade up bad enough, you can make it happen.
Boatdrinks Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Yep, you can offer pretty much your whole draft. That'll git 'er done. Let's just assume most Bills fans wouldn't expect ( or want) this to happen.
1billsfan Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:24 PM, Boatdrinks said: There's been exactly one trade made in the top ten of the draft. Moved a grand total of three spots. Capital means squat if no one wants to move where your pick is. Expand Totally agree with this. I also think that the supposed "Top 4 QBs" have been much overhyped. I just read an article that said Darnold looks like a cow on ice when he plays, and you know what? I agree with him! LOL If they don't have a strong conviction on a QB to the threshold of throwing a boat load high drafts picks at a team like the Giants, Broncos or Colts to move up, then they would be doing the franchise a huge disservice by making the move to just appease fans. My hope is that if they do miss out on one of their guys (if it's true they even like one of them), then pick the "home run" "wild card" QB Lamar Jackson at #12. Go big or go home, there's no sense in playing it safe with an average talented QB like Rudolph. Swing for the fences with Jackson, and still have picks #22, #53, #56, #65, #95 to solidify the building process. They have AJ there to start for the whole season, so Jackson will have this season to learn and not be pushed into the starting role.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:19 PM, SouthNYfan said: So fire both the coach and the GM?? Expand Oh yeah.. fire and brimstone.... Kim is cheap, Terry is meddling.. Russ shouldn’t be in the draft room. You name it 1
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