26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Maybe that Thurm fella is Beane. Maybe the negative crusade on these boards is an attempt to get Rosen to fall to us Ugh! 14 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: He has us getting Rosen at pick 12 in his latest mock today. That's best case scenario, but do we roll the dice with Miam at 11i? He acknowledged that the Bills would likely have to jump up before them. 1 minute ago, BillsFan17 said: Believe me, I'm a huge Rosen supporter. I'm not trying to knock the kid. I get what you're saying and many others feel the same regarding Darnold's, Allen's, and Jackson's respective ceilings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 16 hours ago, iinii said: What was Peyton’s time? He might have had a 5.3 with a strong tail wind He was in that 4.8 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 In the 2018 NFL Draft the theme should be “What’s your flavor?” Depending on what type of quarterback you like, your rankings will be much different than mine. My top ten quarterbacks are as follows: Josh Rosen, UCLA (Projected: Top 10) Sam Darnold, USC (Projected: Top 5) Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma (Projected: Top 10) Lamar Jackson, Louisville (Projected: Top 20) Josh Allen, Wyoming (Projected: Top 10) Luke Falk, Washington State (Projected: 2nd-4th Round) Kyle Lauletta, Richmond (Projected: 2nd-3rd Round) Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State (Projected: Late 1st-Early 2nd Round) Mike White, Western Kentucky (Projected:3rd-4th Round) Logan Woodside, Toledo (Projected: 4th-6th Round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I dont think there is any way we can sit and wait at 12 and hope Rosen falls We are going to have to trade up....the question is how high? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I dont think there is any way we can sit and wait at 12 and hope Rosen falls We are going to have to trade up....the question is how high? He can slide right to the Bills at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Good listen with Brooks talking NFL draft. Has Rosen as the best QB in the draft in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Solak | Social Media And The Revolution Of Character Evaluation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Let Rosen fall all the way to us, that would be the perfect draft scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 The shame of all of this is more and more folks keep mocking Allen to buffalo, and not just mocking allen to Buffalo, but they have us trading up for him. This organization will lose every ounce of my trust if they take Allen over Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 16 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good listen with Brooks talking NFL draft. Has Rosen as the best QB in the draft in the long term. Brooks’s explanation for why the Giants will turn down a boatload of picks to stay at 2 and take Chubb is not very convincing. If they do that, gettleman is just not very smart. 8 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: The shame of all of this is more and more folks keep mocking Allen to buffalo, and not just mocking allen to Buffalo, but they have us trading up for him. This organization will lose every ounce of my trust if they take Allen over Rosen. So you wouldn’t even be willing to give Allen a chance to suit up before you write him off, along with the entire Bills organization? Even though many have Allen going number 1 overall? Seems like an absurdly pig-headed stance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Josh Rosen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 13 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That was a good read. I suggest that anyone who is strongly against drafting Rosen should read this. I see many of the same things Cosell does when I watch Rosen play. He did a good job of highlighting Rosen's strengths IMO. Kind of debunks some of the stuff about Rosen's mobility, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Noooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Noooooooo! You guys might think I'm kidding but if this happens I'm done with nfl football forever. I can't deal with the Pats being good for another decade. I'll just follow baseball and then college football and basketball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, kdiggz said: You guys might think I'm kidding but if this happens I'm done with nfl football forever. I can't deal with the Pats being good for another decade. I'll just follow baseball and then college football and basketball This development would be very disheartening. They just traded away Jimmy G with Brady's career winding down and if they pull this off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, kdiggz said: You guys might think I'm kidding but if this happens I'm done with nfl football forever. I can't deal with the Pats being good for another decade. I'll just follow baseball and then college football and basketball Im with ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Noooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That guy's an ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 1. QB Josh Rosen, UCLA Where He Wins: Play after play a coach knows what he is getting from a footwork, mechanics and technique standpoint. Ideal pocket passer in terms of working inside of structure with timing to locate the correct read and deliver the ball. Willing to attack every level of the defense and deliver footballs just before being hit. Rosen can rifle passes into tight windows or put touch on throws when necessary. Will make subtle movements inside of structure to find space in the pocket. He sees the field better than any other quarterback in this class. Forecast: I don’t know Rosen’s medicals (shoulder and head). I have never met Josh Rosen. But in life generally, I appreciate people who speak their mind and display self-awareness. There will be a team at the top of the draft who clicks with Rosen. Many successful young quarterbacks in the NFL possess above average mobility. I don’t think Rosen offers that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsfan89 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I wouldn't mind a 12+22, and a 3rd next year for Rosen at 6. The Bills land a top QB prospect, keep most of their draft capital in 2019 (I think you can live with not having a 3rd esp considering you have 2 4th round picks), and still have picks 53, 56, 65, and 96 to fill other needs. I think for the Colts you set the table with picks 12, 22, 36, 37, 49, and 67 while having extra picks in the 2nd and 3rd next year. That's a haul of picks in 2 consecutive draft classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 7 hours ago, mannc said: Brooks’s explanation for why the Giants will turn down a boatload of picks to stay at 2 and take Chubb is not very convincing. If they do that, gettleman is just not very smart. So you wouldn’t even be willing to give Allen a chance to suit up before you write him off, along with the entire Bills organization? Even though many have Allen going number 1 overall? Seems like an absurdly pig-headed stance.... Absurdly pig headed, are you kidding me? First of all idc who has him rated where, I formulate my own opinions. You are going off what the media is telling you and coming at me with this nonsense. Formulate your own opinions before you bash someone for taking a stance on their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Nice to hear a ringing endorsement of Rosen by Stanford HC David Shaw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nice to hear a ringing endorsement of Rosen by Stanford HC David Shaw. I really think, any negative reports about Rosen are either teams hoping he falls, or have front offices afraid of a player who isnt afraid to ask why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/16/2018 at 9:33 PM, Pete said: And I think it would be wonderful to build our oline. Dawkins is 23. Let's add a few other youngsters and play smash mouth This has been our motto since Kelly retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 10 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This development would be very disheartening. They just traded away Jimmy G with Brady's career winding down and if they pull this off. Ugh, yes it would. It seems an eternity already. Could Gronkowski be the difference that gets a deal done for the Pats ? What can they offer that the Bills cannot trump? He' d be worth more than any pick the Bills could throw in to a move-up bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Ugh, yes it would. It seems an eternity already. Could Gronkowski be the difference that gets a deal done for the Pats ? What can they offer that the Bills cannot trump? He' d be worth more than any pick the Bills could throw in to a move-up bid. He’s not worth more than pick 12 and probably not worth more than pick 22. He’s an injury prone TE with 1 foot out the retirement door and showing signs of decline in his play, not to mention an off field distraction. If the Pats are selling him, teams know there’s a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Noooooooo! Ok I don't like this obviously, but I'm trying to stay positive. The Pats liking him probably means that Daboll is banging the table for him, so that gives me some hope that he is indeed our target. We have way more ammo than any team behind us to try to grab him. I think we have an agreement in place with the Giants based on who is there and if that falls through, probably the Broncos, Colts, or Bucs. Jason Licht at Tampa is a former NE crony, so that is not great obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/16/2018 at 5:09 PM, Da webster guy said: Cordy Glenn is not a key starter, and Wood has an experienced backup in Groy. I'm not freaking out about Olinemen. Richie hurt, but that's all. John Miller at LG? He was a beast late season his rookie year. Where are ya Johnny? Im agreeing with you on this one. As much as I loved Wood he wasn't spectacular last year at all, groy will do just fine. Cordy didn't even play last year. Will miss Richie but we do have Miller who 2 years ago we all loved! I think they add an interior lineman and a T late to compete with turnstile mills and the other guy they brought in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Wsam4031 said: Im agreeing with you on this one. As much as I loved Wood he wasn't spectacular last year at all, groy will do just fine. Cordy didn't even play last year. Will miss Richie but we do have Miller who 2 years ago we all loved! I think they add an interior lineman and a T late to compete with turnstile mills and the other guy they brought in Everything is Fine? No. No it isn't. Bodine as it stands will be Wood's replacement at C with Groy now listed as a G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Everything is Fine? No. No it isn't. Bodine as it stands will be Wood's replacement at C with Groy now listed as a G. they have bodine and groy to battle at c and mills and groy to battle at g, plus I think they add some lineman in the draft possibly in the 2nd. I think well be ok. Can it be upgraded yea but can we get by for next year with what we got yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: they have bodine and groy to battle at c and mills and groy to battle at g, plus I think they add some lineman in the draft possibly in the 2nd. I think well be ok. Can it be upgraded yea but can we get by for next year with what we got yea Groy is listed a a G on the Bills website since Incognito retired. Bodine hasn't been very good, so I'm not sure how you can rest on we'll be fine. Edited April 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Groy is listed a a G on the Bills website since Incognito retired. Bodine hasn't been very good, so I'm not sure how you can rest on we'll be fine. Bodine is one of the lowest rated pivots for years. I'm actually hoping we draft a center in the second or third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Bodine is one of the lowest rated pivots for years. I'm actually hoping we draft a center in the second or third. They have to invest in the OL you would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Groy is listed a a G on the Bills website since Incognito retired. Bodine hasn't been very good, so I'm not sure how you can rest on we'll be fine. Honestly not worried about it at all. im fine with Groy at guard and I haven't watched a center from another team play all that often so im assuming you watched him play to know hes not that good? If hes that bad id assume they address it in the draft. Our line was supposed to be bad last year and it worked out. I think if you get the right guys to work together on the line then they can succeed even if they failed on other teams. If im wrong and our new qb gets faceplanted 10x game 1 ill start to worry. right now We just still got time to add through the draft and FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Wsam4031 said: Honestly not worried about it at all. im fine with Groy at guard and I haven't watched a center from another team play all that often so im assuming you watched him play to know hes not that good? If hes that bad id assume they address it in the draft. Our line was supposed to be bad last year and it worked out. I think if you get the right guys to work together on the line then they can succeed even if they failed on other teams. If im wrong and our new qb gets faceplanted 10x game 1 ill start to worry. right now We just still got time to add through the draft and FA Okay. Everything is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They have to invest in the OL you would think. I def think they will, but I also look back at the Panthers and they only had one first round OL starting. The others were mid round to UDFA. Moton was the highest drafted O Linemen for Carolina in the second round last year, in a handful of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Okay. Everything is fine. I was asking you have you watched Bodine play? is he bad or are you listening to posters on here who listen to other fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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