drf1835 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/nfl-quarterback-wonderlic-scores-matter-a-great-deal-042417/ The info in that above link makes a pretty good argument, that there should be st least some relevance and importance to the Wonderlic test. Of course there has been shown to be exceptions to the rules, as shown there and noted, as a few that scored low are Hall of Famers, and some that scored high are journeyman or below average, but lots of those qbs with scores 27 and 28 AND ABOVE were and are more successful at playing and higher rated in the nfl than those with scores at 26 and lower, with many of those qbs performing poorer. The average of qb scores was 24. The super bowl winning qbs the last ten years supposedly averaged between 30 and around 32. I am wondering if the Bills will factor in or scrutinize the scores of the 2018 prospects? If so, an educated guess based on other info I read about Rosen and intelligence, is that he could score high. Not sure about the others though. Much physical talent plus high Wonderlic score could reduce the risk of failure, or in some cases the above average talent could be because of that great cognitive abilities, which compensated for any physical shortcomings. In other cases, tremendous physical talent can prevail despite any less ability to think quickly in a cognitive or logical way. Who knows. It was interesting to read though, as there seems to be at least some correlation between high Wonderlic score and likelihood of nfl long term success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I scored 35 on a Wonderlic two years ago and I'm a free agent. Pick me, Beane! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Did you know Fitz went to Harvard and got a perfect score and Dan Marino only got a 17? Edited March 20, 2018 by Mike in Horseheads 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 These should leak out soon no? Maybe the media will hold them back because Josh Rosen is "too smart." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Did you know Fitz went to Harvard and got a perfect score and Dan Marino only got a 17? Any elite QBs from recent era score under a 20? A good QB doesn't need to be a bookworm, but still needs to be able to read a playbook and process information quickly on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Who knows what they consider an “executive” but as a group they average a 28. Point is that they are not the smartest people in the room, on average. BTW 20 is average across a large population and 50 is the highest score attainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Since 2000, every QB with a Wonderlic score below 16 has been - at best - a lower-tier starter/solid backup. This isn't Marino/Kelly or Bradshaw era football anymore. Sixteen or higher is the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Didn't that corner they signed score a 33? Should he play QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Did you know Fitz went to Harvard and got a perfect score and Dan Marino only got a 17? Fitz only got a 48. The player with a perfect score remains Pat McInally in '75. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Been beating this drum here for years and years. Don't need to read it. A 22 is as low a reported score for a SB winning QB as there is (Favre). So if you want a SB, think above a 22. You can get to the playoffs with less but you are not likely to win it. This is not a point that over 22 guarantees you win one, but the contrary, that beneath guarantees you won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: Fitz only got a 48. The player with a perfect score remains Pat McInally in '75. In Fitz's defense he left 1 blank, perhaps on purpose. You don't want your QB to be too smart, as we are seeing with Josh Rosen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 You can take the test here if you would like. I was able to get a 37. I only got to 39 questions (there is a lag when you submit) and missed 2. Try it out and have some fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Jim Kelly 15 Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 Who was the better Bills' QB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betop Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 we alredy ave peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: Since 2000, every QB with a Wonderlic score below 16 has been - at best - a lower-tier starter/solid backup. This isn't Marino/Kelly or Bradshaw era football anymore. Sixteen or higher is the goal. Seems like there was a recent pro bowl QB who only had 15 on it but I can't think of his name. Edited March 20, 2018 by Mike in Horseheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, kdiggz said: In Fitz's defense he left 1 blank, perhaps on purpose. You don't want your QB to be too smart, as we are seeing with Josh Rosen! I want my QB to be the smartest guy in the room. Doesn't mean he can't be a ball buster, though. But football isn't exactly quantum physics, so a QB doesn't need to be a genius to succeed, anyway. Kelly and Marino were hardly keen intellects, but they new how to read a safety. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Seems like there was a recent pro bowl QB who only had 15 on it but I can't think of his name. I'm sure he was well-deserving to take part in a meaningless game that the NFL's best players pretty much refuse to play in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 The Wonderlic's primary benefit is to Wonderlic's wallet. And it mainly measures the NFL's lack of knowledge about psychological testing. I'm not saying it is totally useless. But it is way more likely to be wrong about somebody's intellect than even just speaking to them for 15 minutes. Or sometimes even 1 minute. I talked to Kyle Williams once for about 30 seconds before I knew the guy is brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 HOFers in the bottom 6.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Don't want any QB with a Wonderlic below 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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