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I do not like anyone outside of the top 4 rated QBs, so if we cannot get our guy, then draft best available at any position. Trade for Foles after round 1 for a #2 this year and next year. He is the only FA QB next year. Send both #2's this year or move to the top of round 2 for Lamar. At least we would have something to discuss and have a competition all year.

- one of them will drop to 10 for sure.

 

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3 minutes ago, BBillsWestCoast said:

 

I predict we win 4-6 games next year at best even if we draft a QB. 

I mean running through 29 QBs in 19 seasons and always shopping in the bargain bin hoping you finally find a QB who will stick. 

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40 minutes ago, BBillsWestCoast said:

I do not like anyone outside of the top 4 rated QBs, so if we cannot get our guy, then draft best available at any position. Trade for Foles after round 1 for a #2 this year and next year. He is the only FA QB next year. Send both #2's this year or move to the top of round 2 for Lamar. At least we would have something to discuss and have a competition all year.

- one of them will drop to 10 for sure.

 

  If we cannot trade up for a QB......You will hear cries of incompetency and conspiracy whether warranted or not.  A fair number will not accept any explanation whatsoever.  Come to think of it as divided as people here are on which QB to be chosen THERE will be threads by the advocates of the QB's who were not chosen claiming incompetency and conspiracy.  This will go on for months and the daily threads on this will ramp up if we get off to anything less than a 6-2 start.  I want to win as bad as anybody but some people need to get a life.  I don't believe for a moment that even if Beane and Co check this site that they let the "advice" here to supercede their own judgement.  

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53 minutes ago, BBillsWestCoast said:

I do not like anyone outside of the top 4 rated QBs, so if we cannot get our guy, then draft best available at any position. Trade for Foles after round 1 for a #2 this year and next year. He is the only FA QB next year. Send both #2's this year or move to the top of round 2 for Lamar. At least we would have something to discuss and have a competition all year.

- one of them will drop to 10 for sure.

 

100 mill under the cap on 2019 and Matt Ryan will be a UFA.

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56 minutes ago, BBillsWestCoast said:

I do not like anyone outside of the top 4 rated QBs, so if we cannot get our guy, then draft best available at any position. Trade for Foles after round 1 for a #2 this year and next year. He is the only FA QB next year. Send both #2's this year or move to the top of round 2 for Lamar. At least we would have something to discuss and have a competition all year.

- one of them will drop to 10 for sure.

 

People still talking about this guy as if he's in the cards.  Not happening nor should it. 

 

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If we can’t get our QB this year I’m fine with stacking our team with great young players from this draft on cheap rookie contracts and seeing what McCarren can do.  This team has a lot of needs and this draft and all of our picks can fill a lot of them.  

 

McCarren had great success in college and has had several years to watch the pro game and evolve.  Anyone who says they can predict how a young QB is going to develop is fooling himself.  There is no certainty that one of this year’s rookie QBs will be better than McCarren.  There is no Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck in this draft.

 

I’m not ready to drink iocaine powder if we roll with McCarren this year.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Inigo Montoya said:

There is no Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck in this draft.

 

How can you say this right after you say this?

 

1 minute ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Anyone who says they can predict how a young QB is going to develop is fooling himself.

 

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I think it’s fair to say that in the last 20 years Manning and Luck have been closest to a sure thing QB coming out of college.  As has been stated repeatedly, all the QBs in this draft have a significant flaw.  Accuracy, size, attitude, personality, fragility.

 

I’m surprised you would take issue with my erudite post.  Do you have six fingers on your right hand???

 

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5 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

I think it’s fair to say that in the last 20 years Manning and Luck have been closest to a sure thing QB coming out of college.  As has been stated repeatedly, all the QBs in this draft have a significant flaw.  Accuracy, size, attitude, personality, fragility.

 

I’m surprised you would take issue with my erudite post.  Do you have six fingers on your right hand???

 

Relax I was just messing around.  It's pretty common knowledge there is no Manning or Luck in this draft and there probably won't be one to enter a draft for another 20 years.  Thing is though them kind of guys only come around every so often so you have to take your shot at a qb not of that stature.  If you keep waiting for your Luck or Manning to come out of college you're just gonna be where we have been since Kelly retired.

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2 hours ago, mikemac2001 said:

I honestly think if that happens 

 

we trade to get picks for next year and try to get our qb then. They want a top qb 

Precisely.  If we miss out on the QB we want this year, we will sell one of our #1's this yr. and walk away with an extra 1st round pick in the '19 draft.  It's a smart contingency plan, have a feeling it won't come to that though.

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On 3/16/2018 at 10:12 PM, BBillsWestCoast said:

I do not like anyone outside of the top 4 rated QBs, so if we cannot get our guy, then draft best available at any position. Trade for Foles after round 1 for a #2 this year and next year. He is the only FA QB next year. Send both #2's this year or move to the top of round 2 for Lamar. At least we would have something to discuss and have a competition all year.

- one of them will drop to 10 for sure.

 

Please..at least try to stay consistent in your train of thought.

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On 3/16/2018 at 10:15 PM, mikemac2001 said:

I honestly think if that happens 

 

we trade to get picks for next year and try to get our qb then. They want a top qb 

Not a good year for QBs. Prepare to be disappointed if that's your strategy. 

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On 3/16/2018 at 10:15 PM, mikemac2001 said:

I honestly think if that happens 

 

we trade to get picks for next year and try to get our qb then. They want a top qb 

If the Bills can't get Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield I really hope this is plan B. I don't think it will happen, but it would definitely be my favorite of all the scenarios left at that point.

 

 It would take the sting out of not getting our QB this year a little (and would take the sting out of losing a franchise LT for a plan that didn't work out) if we move back at 12 for another 1st next year.  I know the QB class next year probably isn't as good, but we likely won't be needing to trade up all the way from 21 next year either.  

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4 hours ago, Adam727 said:

If the Bills can't get Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield I really hope this is plan B. I don't think it will happen, but it would definitely be my favorite of all the scenarios left at that point.

 

 It would take the sting out of not getting our QB this year a little (and would take the sting out of losing a franchise LT for a plan that didn't work out) if we move back at 12 for another 1st next year.  I know the QB class next year probably isn't as good, but we likely won't be needing to trade up all the way from 21 next year either.  

 

There are no franchise qb's next year.  This was the year.  Everything was in place, tons of picks , new gm, just coming off a playoff appearance. 

 

Some years you get goff and wentz, others you get winston and mariotta.  

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On ‎3‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 7:15 PM, mikemac2001 said:

I honestly think if that happens 

 

we trade to get picks for next year and try to get our qb then. They want a top qb 

 

I hope so. I don't want them to devote the picks they have accrued to anything but a top QB prospect.

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