aristocrat Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Quick mock offseason assuming Tyrod is the bridge: FA: Paul Richardson, Vontae Davis, Preston Brown, Dontari Poe, Seantrel Henderson Draft: Lamar Jackson, Maurice Hurst, Sam Hubbard, Malik Jefferson, Anthony Miller, Mark Walton, BPA, BPA Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: It's all out of my hands. The only thing one can hope for is a package deal somehow in the works already like you described behind the scenes already. Some of the other opinions make me scratch my head though, like keeping TT as a bridge to groom a rookie? Do we really want Tyrod to mentor our next possible "high" drafted 1st rd pick rookie? I sure as hell don't... I truly want this FO to be successful. If they botch this up It could be the end of the line. For once this is one of the better FA QB years along with several promising draft prospects at QB. I have no problem with him mentoring a rookie. He works hard, is smart, has a professional attitude. He’s the 1st guy in and last guy to leave. His teammates look up to him. You could have a worse guy showing the ropes. 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Nice I feel like that’s a pretty good team. We may have to make a cap sacrifice or two (maybe Lorax). Just thinking out loud of how to round out the roster. We will have boatloads of cap space next year too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Actual quote: "At this point, it doesn't seem like they're going to cut him without knowing who his replacement will be," Rapoport said. "The Bills are OK with paying a $6 million roster bonus to keep him on the roster." The prevailing thought has been that Buffalo would move on from the 28-year-old quarterback either by releasing him or through a trade. While the latter option appears to remain on the table, per Rapoport, the Bills won't simply jettison their starting quarterback at this time. Key words: "won't jettison" "without knowing who his replacement will be" It is smart IMHO to not cut last year's starting QB without next year's starter on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I have no problem with him mentoring a rookie. He works hard, is smart, has a professional attitude. He’s the 1st guy in and last guy to leave. His teammates look up to him. You could have a worse guy showing the ropes. What about Tyrod/Baker? Similar skill set, height. Baker more accurate, better pocket passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I have no problem with him mentoring a rookie. He works hard, is smart, has a professional attitude. He’s the 1st guy in and last guy to leave. His teammates look up to him. You could have a worse guy showing the ropes. I feel like that’s a pretty good team. We may have to make a cap sacrifice or two (maybe Lorax). Just thinking out loud of how to round out the roster. We will have boatloads of cap space next year too. ....and from his storied skill set, what would you like him to pass on as a mentor to the 1st round rook and Peterman?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What about Tyrod/Baker? Similar skill set, height. Baker more accurate, better pocket passer. I could get behind that. I love Baker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I have no problem with him mentoring a rookie. He works hard, is smart, has a professional attitude. He’s the 1st guy in and last guy to leave. His teammates look up to him. You could have a worse guy showing the ropes. I feel like that’s a pretty good team. We may have to make a cap sacrifice or two (maybe Lorax). Just thinking out loud of how to round out the roster. We will have boatloads of cap space next year too. Love the d line. Would become a strength. Linebackers better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....and from his storied skill set, what would you like him to pass on as a mentor to the 1st round rook and Peterman?..... I’ve never seen a guy transfer skills to another player. Have you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Hot take: I don't think this should piss people off. Some buy yellow underwear because they are pissed off permanently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...probably best case......so you'd be paying $6 mil for a 5th.....maybe McBeane is looking at packaging it.....still think he preserves upper draft capital (1sts and 2nds) but who knows?...now if that 5th got us another Kyle Williams 5th, we're on to something .......right......... No. You are paying $6M for the right to negotiate with future QB from a position of having a QB who can start and win (or at least not lose) half your games on the roster. That is smart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: Love the d line. Would become a strength. Linebackers better. I feel like that roster is a big upgrade on last year. It’s a much more balanced and athletic team. We need to find a way to rush the passer some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: No. You are paying $6M for the right to negotiate with future QB from a position of having a QB who can start and win (or at least not lose) half your games on the roster. That is smart. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Tyrod and Lamar Jackson? I would actually like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: No. You are paying $6M for the right to negotiate with future QB from a position of having a QB who can start and win (or at least not lose) half your games on the roster. That is smart. ...removes the purported gun from McBeane's head with the 16th looming as bonus payment day....opposing GM's who thought they could call his bluff and wait him out got snookered ...yes it is a smart move IMO........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 They must think that they can trade him for more than I think they can. I would be surprised if they could get a 5th round pick for him and that would not seem to be worth paying his $6M bonus this year. I expect if they do this, they are declaring that they won’t be big FA buyers (wasted cap money). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I could get behind that. I love Baker. Do you really believe that if the Bills drafted Baker there wouldn't be an immediate loud chorus to play him rather quickly? I have said it before that the best situation for both TT and the Bills is to have a fresh start. If the Bills can't make a deal to get one of the top three qbs in this draft then it would make some sense to keep him, although I would still be against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, JohnC said: Do you really believe that if the Bills drafted Baker there wouldn't be an immediate loud chorus to play him rather quickly? I have said it before that the best situation for both TT and the Bills is to have a fresh start. If the Bills can't make a deal to get one of the top three qbs in this draft then it would make some sense to keep him, although I would still be against it. Baker and Rosen are the 2 guys that I think can play day 1. Bills fans will call for whomever to play day 1 but I think anyone outside of those 2 needs time. Seeing as FA comes first you need to insure yourself with a vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: They must think that they can trade him for more than I think they can. I would be surprised if they could get a 5th round pick for him and that would not seem to be worth paying his $6M bonus this year. I expect if they do this, they are declaring that they won’t be big FA buyers (wasted cap money). Or....they are preparing for what could happen like a diaster like everything goes wrong in free agency and the draft at qb because that COULD happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: "My sources are saying there have been high level negotiations with the EPA to give a tax credit to solyndra to make the new stadium totally green. Solyndra will lease the adjacent land from our development to place their solar panels. Our attorneys are lobbying Donald Trump to hold a rally at the groundbreaking ceremony." Somebody is investing in rotten fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, JohnC said: Do you really believe that if the Bills drafted Baker there wouldn't be an immediate loud chorus to play him rather quickly? I have said it before that the best situation for both TT and the Bills is to have a fresh start. If the Bills can't make a deal to get one of the top three qbs in this draft then it would make some sense to keep him, although I would still be against it. And maybe he would play right away. Earn it in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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